Retirement questions

I've always thought that I would need about $5M to retire without impinging on the principal. But, with the runaway inflation we are experiencing, I don't even think that will be enough.
My thinking is similar. That leads to about $250k / year, which is enough to keep the beer fridge, wine rack, and Bonanza tanks stocked, as well as a couple of international trips each year.
 
I have 4 years active Navy well 3 years 11 months and 29 days and 10 years reserve in USNR. I was hoping to get VA to cover some of the medical.

Have you contacted an accredited Veteran Service Organization such as the DAV (dav.org) to determine if you can file a claim? They do a good job of shepherding a veteran thru the process.
 
My thinking is similar. That leads to about $250k / year, which is enough to keep the beer fridge, wine rack, and Bonanza tanks stocked, as well as a couple of international trips each year.

Yet another example of how Beech corrected problems going from the Bonanza to the Musketeer. I'm able to do all that while drawing substantially less and reinvesting.

(But then, I also have fun finding really good wines that don't cost very much...)
 
For simplistic SS decisions the cross-over age is 82 (by design). If you die before age 82, you're better off taking it as early as possible. If you live beyond, later is better.
As I posted earlier, using my numbers a few months back my age was 81. A little more complicated figuring out how much earlier to take it, but yeah, 82 pretty much boils it down.
The majority consensus was unless SS was an integral part of funding your retirement, take it at 62 and don't look back.
and since I worked up the spreadsheet, I'm nearly but not totally convinced that this is spot on. At this moment, anyway, taking it at 62 is my plan even though I almost certainly won't need the money at that point

The part that hangs me up is your question, "is SS an integral part of the plan?"
For me now, no not really... but is the pot of money I've saved really big enough? One can never really know for sure. We might spend a little more than sensible in the youth of our retirment...then get hit with cancer or some horrible thing that takes a bunch of money...then later need some long term nursing home care. I might end up at 87 like my dad, staring the need for nursing home care, wishing taht I had taht bigger check rolling in from SS
I met an 85-year-old woman who was still working full time selling life insurance. I asked her what was the secret. She said, holding up her cocktail, "First of all, one of these every day isn't going to hurt you. And second, don't believe the bastards when they tell you to slow down."
Yes
My dad is 87. His mind has taken a steep mental decline in the last few years, but right up until then he and mom have rolled like they were like an average 65 year old. They have several rental properties and it wasn't all taht long ago they were still doing all the repair an remodeling DIY...laying carpet, repainting, and even roofing. Mom is about 3-years younger than dad and she takes care of him , does all the shopping, mows the grass, trims the hedges, hauls the trash, and never goes to the doctor unless she's taking dad. She's a devout Christian and never says a cross word or touches the booze or (although I suspect that she might have sampled some in her 20's), but she's a firm believer in not slowing down
 
I can expect to match my familial average of 92.

One of my math profs used to say "Mean is meaningless without sigma." What's your familial standard deviation? Is that average getting pulled down by people dying younger than you already are? You might very well beat the average.

My dad died at 85, but a lifetime as a welder had wrecked his lungs, and he was in far worse health than I am in his 60s. His father also lived into his late 80s, but was a lifelong heavy smoker. I really have no idea what genetics say about my life expectancy, so I'm just going to keep enjoying life until it's over.
 
Got my ACA renewal notice today. My premiums will be >$1200/mo next year without a subsidy. I’ll be taking a careful look at where I draw my retirement funds so I can afford beer. I’ll be getting into Medicare after a few months, so things will change again.
 
The part that hangs me up is your question, "is SS an integral part of the plan?"
The context of this comment is that there are people who need their SSA to be part of their retirement financial planning. In my discussions with those people, most but not all waited until 70 for the higher monthly benefit which supplements their other monies in their late 70s and 80s. Everyone else took it at 62 or 65 when they signed up for medicare.

but is the pot of money I've saved really big enough? One can never really know for sure.
I never looked at an overall savings amount as the goal, but rather how long will my “pot of money” last when spending X amount per month as the monthly amount was easier and more accurate to calculate, if that makes sense. Then I multiplied that monthly expenditure by 396 which gave me the money pot size I needed to have and when I got there, I jumped.
 
Got my ACA renewal notice today. My premiums will be >$1200/mo next year without a subsidy. I’ll be taking a careful look at where I draw my retirement funds so I can afford beer. I’ll be getting into Medicare after a few months, so things will change again.
maybe it should have been called the "unaffordable beer act"
 
Ouch!
Might as well find a doctor in Mexico, probably cheaper to travel there and pay for treatment.
Or just ask your regular doctors to give you a no insurance, no hassle price.
That price is with no subsidy. We’ve been able to play the taxable income game so far. I retired after the temp changes were made that softened the cliff. So even I go over a bit, I still get something. If that expires, though, I have to be pretty careful.

My thanks to all you taxpayers who handled those subsidies for me.
 
I know those guaranteed life time medical benefits I signed up for cost a whole lot of dough! IRMAA is steep for career military plus 2nd career types.
 
Most of this thread has been about the financial side of retirement. Please keep in mind the necessary Powers of Attorney, Advanced Medical Directives, and your desires should you no longer be able to care for yourself or be cared for by your spouse or caregiver.

Once the drama we’re going thru with my father is over I’ll share more, but suffice it to say between his dementia and his current wife being in and out of a mental ward, there’s no one legally capable of making adult decisions for him.

The legal system isn’t set up for stuff like this…it’s not unusual for a ‘quick’ contested guardianship case to take a year or more and six figures in costs just to find out someone who has diminished mental capacities still gets the final say whether they want to take advantage of full time care options available to them or not.

I won’t go into some of the other elder abuse topics we’re dealing with, but the appropriate state agencies don’t seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to working cases like these, either. Our experience so far has been they’d rather wait for some to pass than complete an investigation.

Sorry, it’s been a long afternoon.
 
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Most of this thread has been about the financial side of retirement. Please keep in mind the necessary Powers of Attorney, Advanced Medical Directives, and your desires should you no longer be able to care for yourself or be cared for by your spouse or caregiver.

Once the drama we’re going thru with my father is over I’ll share more, but suffice it to say between his dementia and his current wife being in and out of a mental ward, there’s no one legally capable of making adult decisions for him.

The legal system isn’t set up for stuff like this…it’s not unusual for a ‘quick’ contested guardianship case to take a year or more and six figures in costs just to find out someone who has diminished mental capacities still gets the final say whether they want to take advantage of full time care options available to them or not.

I won’t go into some of the other elder anise topics we’re dealing with, but the appropriate state agencies don’t seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to working cases like these, either. Our experience so far has been they’d rather wait for some to pass than complete an investigation.

Sorry, it’s been a long afternoon.
It’s unfortunate that we have to learn from experience like that. It happened to us, too, but slightly different circumstances. You’re absolutely right, get all the different powers of attorney snd advanced care directives set up well before you need them. Good luck with that, and take care of yourself.
 
FIL first, then MIL; both challenging. Caused a huge familial rift and tore my wife's heart out. I was executor for MIL. Would not wish that job on anyone. Now my dad (91+) is suffering from dementia and my mom is fading pretty fast from heart failure. It's tough to put the emotion aside. But from a purely tactical standpoint it's like the proverbial elephant: one bite at a time. My goal now is to make this easier for my kids.
 
My goal now is to make this easier for my kids.

Karen and I recently set up a revocable trust. Kind of a PITA, mainly in getting the names on brokerage accounts changed. Also transferred our two properties over. Also updated our wills, Power of Attorneys and Living Wills/Advanced Directives. All for the sake of streamlining the eventual process for our kids. We’d been meaning to do it for at least a decade, but it’s the kind of thing VERY easy to put off, I think because of the intimations of mortality that accompany it.
 
Karen and I recently set up a revocable trust. Kind of a PITA, mainly in getting the names on brokerage accounts changed. Also transferred our two properties over. Also updated our wills, Power of Attorneys and Living Wills/Advanced Directives. All for the sake of streamlining the eventual process for our kids. We’d been meaning to do it for at least a decade, but it’s the kind of thing VERY easy to put off, I think because of the intimations of mortality that accompany it.

We got serious about estate planning when we had kids. That extra sense of responsibility really pushed us.
 
I dealt with one of those when my MIL passed. It made selling the house easier. But I’m not sure if it was really necessary. What would’ve really helped would’ve been if they’d have decluttered and simplified everything before they became completely disabled. Knowing what’s left and where it all is when mom and dad are gone should be the goal IMHO.
 
My thanks to all you taxpayers who handled those subsidies for me.
Considering the deficit at this point, you could say it's more so paid with inflation. And given how much of the world uses the dollar, its more like the world as a whole who's handling it :cheers:
 
othing specific - just a general feeling. My Dad's side of the family isn't known for longevity and my Mom's side has a couple of members with dementia (my Mom included). And then there's my job. If I go the distance I'll have 40 years of 500+ hours/yr in the flight levels. That's a lot of time sitting on my ass being bombarded by cosmic radiation. And half of that will (likely) have been spent flying long haul, which isn't exactly circadian rhythm friendly.

Yeah...and also Rough River Liver
 
Karen and I recently set up a revocable trust. Kind of a PITA, mainly in getting the names on brokerage accounts changed. Also transferred our two properties over. Also updated our wills, Power of Attorneys and Living Wills/Advanced Directives. All for the sake of streamlining the eventual process for our kids. We’d been meaning to do it for at least a decade, but it’s the kind of thing VERY easy to put off, I think because of the intimations of mortality that accompany it.
We're going through all of that now. I asked about that, and our attorney told me we don't need to do that now - we can just name the trust as the beneficiary of the retirement accounts, and said there's a "transfer on death" that can be used for everything else. I wonder if that varies from state to state? I'll bring that up again the next time we meet with him. I see a lot of property around us that's titled in the name of trusts, so I wonder about that.
 
Our IRA’s were among things not needing to be put in the trust. Similarly, we did not bother with bank accounts (small), motor vehicles or the plane or other real property. The attorney said the wills would cover that.
 
We're going through all of that now. I asked about that, and our attorney told me we don't need to do that now - we can just name the trust as the beneficiary of the retirement accounts, and said there's a "transfer on death" that can be used for everything else. I wonder if that varies from state to state? I'll bring that up again the next time we meet with him. I see a lot of property around us that's titled in the name of trusts, so I wonder about that.

Estate planning can be vary by state and by assets. Trusts can help with asset protection and/or to extend control over the assets beyond your death, among other things. There are Medicaid Asset Protection trusts that have been popular to shield a house from being seized to pay for your nursing home stay.

Wills and trusts should be complimentary; how they’re designed/what their purpose is for is really dependent on what your goal is. It’s one thing to use a trust as a deferred tax shelter and entirely different to use it to fund for an adult child with special needs or diminished capacity.
 
We're going through all of that now. I asked about that, and our attorney told me we don't need to do that now - we can just name the trust as the beneficiary of the retirement accounts, and said there's a "transfer on death" that can be used for everything else. I wonder if that varies from state to state? I'll bring that up again the next time we meet with him. I see a lot of property around us that's titled in the name of trusts, so I wonder about that.
State death tax rules can vary, and other asset protections can vary. Titling property in a trust is a way to work around some inheritance taxes and other ownership transfer issues. There’s a lot involved, your lawyer might have looked at your particular situation and thought TOD was best.
 
Wills and trusts should be complimentary; how they’re designed/what their purpose is for is really dependent on what your goal is. It’s one thing to use a trust as a deferred tax shelter and entirely different to use it to fund for an adult child with special needs or diminished capacity.
Yes. In our case we're using the trust to avoid dumping our entire estate on our heirs in one go, which could (we hope, anyway) have adverse tax and/or lifestyle impact. We're having the wills and trust done at the same time, by the same attorney, along with medical POA and living wills. I've got a laundry list of questions for him the next time we meet.
 
Our IRA’s were among things not needing to be put in the trust. Similarly, we did not bother with bank accounts (small), motor vehicles or the plane or other real property. The attorney said the wills would cover that.
I don’t think IRAs can be put into a trust. They are “individual” retirement accounts. The beneficiary can be a trust.
 
We're going through all of that now. I asked about that, and our attorney told me we don't need to do that now - we can just name the trust as the beneficiary of the retirement accounts, and said there's a "transfer on death" that can be used for everything else. I wonder if that varies from state to state?
There are always state variations but not all that much on the subject of using revocable trusts as an estate planning tool. There are really two goals - avoiding probate and generation-skipping (all the asset and tax-related stuff is for irrevocable trusts) If anything, there is probably overuse for the non-probate goal. It's really a discussion between estate professional and client, but for example, there's typically not that much gained by moving a home held in joint tenancy with survivorship into a trust unless the idea is to avoid the probates associated with the joint owners both dying at the same time.

As always in this area, YMMV.
 
we can just name the trust as the beneficiary of the retirement accounts, and said there's a "transfer on death" that can be used for everything else. I wonder if that varies from state to state?
As mentioned, it can vary state to state. There are even several states where TODs/PODs are not 100% honored in all cases. I went with a Testamentary Trust which is held within my Will and provided what I needed done to include that Trust is listed as beneficiary as needed. Regardless, local attorney should give the best advice along with an accountant as required. But one thing to keep in mind, if you plan to move your domicile to another state be sure your original plan will transfer in full to your new location.
 
Most of this thread has been about the financial side of retirement. Please keep in mind the necessary Powers of Attorney, Advanced Medical Directives, and your desires should you no longer be able to care for yourself or be cared for by your spouse or caregiver.

Once the drama we’re going thru with my father is over I’ll share more, but suffice it to say between his dementia and his current wife being in and out of a mental ward, there’s no one legally capable of making adult decisions for him.

The legal system isn’t set up for stuff like this…it’s not unusual for a ‘quick’ contested guardianship case to take a year or more and six figures in costs just to find out someone who has diminished mental capacities still gets the final say whether they want to take advantage of full time care options available to them or not.

I won’t go into some of the other elder abuse topics we’re dealing with, but the appropriate state agencies don’t seem to have a sense of urgency when it comes to working cases like these, either. Our experience so far has been they’d rather wait for some to pass than complete an investigation.

Sorry, it’s been a long afternoon.
Man sorry to hear about that. I took a job the next county over from my parents after retiring from the Army. One of the reasons was that I knew at some point I’d have to help my parents with their medical issues. Between my dad’s diabetes, CKD, back pain and my mom’s Parkinson’s, I’m gonna have my hands full soon. Final years in life can be a long, drawn out process of in and out of hospitals. Unfortunately an expensive process as well.
 
But one thing to keep in mind, if you plan to move your domicile to another state be sure your original plan will transfer in full to your new location.
Good point! That's not in the cards for us. We had planned to move years ago. but our kids kept on popping out grandkids here so we're kind of stuck. Plus I'm married... and not in the mood to buy another house and then spend the next 10 years and at least the cost of the house doing remodel work to make it "just right"...
 
Our IRA’s were among things not needing to be put in the trust. Similarly, we did not bother with bank accounts (small), motor vehicles or the plane or other real property. The attorney said the wills would cover that.

If your kids aren’t pilots, feel free to will the Sky Arrow to me. Plus any stray motorcycles you don’t have a good home for.
 
A lot of assets can be kept out of probate with beneficiary and transfer on death designations, including IRA's. Real property is the exception if it's to be sold. We set my in-laws Virginia estate up like this and if worked out very well.
 
A lot of assets can be kept out of probate with beneficiary and transfer on death designations, including IRA's. Real property is the exception if it's to be sold. We set my in-laws Virginia estate up like this and if worked out very well.

My mother’s estate was simple. Checking/savings accounts were jointly held by her and the executor/POA. Insurance paid to beneficiaries, IRA - what bit remained - transferred on death to beneficiaries. All real assets had previously been disposed of.

What we know my dad’s arrangements is a mess. There’s supposedly a will, but no one has seen it. The one POA that’s been reviewed is of questionable validity, he has at least one bank account that is solely owned, one that is jointly owned by the current wife and the current wife’s son is thought to have a POA for the wife’s financial affairs.

The house is solely owned with no mortgage however there is no documentation in what his intent is with that.
 
My mother’s estate was simple. Checking/savings accounts were jointly held by her and the executor/POA. Insurance paid to beneficiaries, IRA - what bit remained - transferred on death to beneficiaries. All real assets had previously been disposed of.

What we know my dad’s arrangements is a mess. There’s supposedly a will, but no one has seen it. The one POA that’s been reviewed is of questionable validity, he has at least one bank account that is solely owned, one that is jointly owned by the current wife and the current wife’s son is thought to have a POA for the wife’s financial affairs.

The house is solely owned with no mortgage however there is no documentation in what his intent is with that.

Why is it always the male that leaves the mess? My FIL, even after many hours spent structuring his assets in such a way as to pass outside probate, still had a "secret accounts" which had no beneficiary named. Sometimes I think it was just to poke a finger in my eye as executor. Oh, and we found he never met a credit card he didn't like if it offered money back for signing up. Closing those was a treat.

Anyway, we found that POA's aren't what they used to be, especially at banks and brokerages. Their legal departments are VERY skeptical. Easier to simply add a name to the accounts and/or update beneficiaries, though there are risks to that as well.
 
A coworker lost his parents in a house fire. It was a very old brick structure, a little ways out of town. Best anyone could tell it was an electrical source of ignition in the middle of the night. I don’t know if they had smoke detectors, but they didn’t make it out. By the time FD arrived, it was fully involved. Eventually the walls collapsed and there was really nothing left, everything was in the basement.

My coworker spent nearly a year going through their affairs. Since there was nothing left, no records or documents, he had no idea of any insurance policies, bank and savings accounts, wills, car titles, or any other documents. Fortunately it was a small town and his parents were involved. He talked to the president of the local bank where he suspected his parents did business, and that started the chain of phone calls all over town to lawyers and insurance agents. He thinks he reconstructed most of their documents, but he will never know what he missed.

Keep things together, keep copies offsite, and let someone know where they are. In this case I don’t know if a firesafe would have helped, the fire might have been too hot for too long.

And don’t forget passwords: if you keep anything behind a password, like online photo albums or other accounts or even things like a smart thermostat, you might want your survivors to know.
 
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Keep things together, keep copies offsite, and let someone know where they are. In this case I don’t know if a firesafe would have helped, the fire might have been too hot for too long.

And don’t forget passwords: if you keep anything behind a password, like online photo albums or other accounts or even things like a smart thermostat, you might want your survivors to know.
This is one of the many things I have in mind to sort through soon after I retire. I was talking to a friend a couple days ago about my idea to retire soon. He's a few years older and has been thinking about this stuff for a while. He said something about my need to find something to keep from getting bored. While that is a possibility to a degree...it theoretically shouldn't be much of a problem because I have a fairly big list of things such as this that I'd like to address, BUT I know there will be days when "I just don't feel like it today" ;)

Anyway, I want to sift through the firebox and files, both digital and paper, to get things better sorted. Maybe update teh legal stuff, etc... Also, I want to do a deep dive in the garage and attic to get rid of the junk. Basically get a jump on teh downsizing. That's front of my mind especally, because my parents, in their 80s now, are basically horders.... and I know that project is going to take some long and hard effort to deal with. I don't want to do that to my kids! Also, I want to downsize so that when my wife is ready to retire, we can have an easier time of downsizing and travelling.
And in the process of all of that, I've got a ton of deferred maintenance around the house and my wife's offices that'll keep me plenty busy
 
Got my ACA renewal notice today. My premiums will be >$1200/mo next year without a subsidy.

Yeah. ACA. So our plan was going to jump to $3200/mo after the extra subsidies end. Not good.

Luckily we have sufficient non qualified funds to fund retirement until we get to Medicare. Dropping our MAGI down to near poverty level, we can now get the same plan for $92/mo. I hate to do it, but it’s totally legal gaming of the system. Downside is we will probably be paying more taxes later when we start to draw from qualified funds again.

Blessed to have had the foresight to invest outside the 401k, having options is good!
 
Yeah. ACA. So our plan was going to jump to $3200/mo after the extra subsidies end. Not good.

Luckily we have sufficient non qualified funds to fund retirement until we get to Medicare. Dropping our MAGI down to near poverty level, we can now get the same plan for $92/mo. I hate to do it, but it’s totally legal gaming of the system.
This is one example of how broken the system has become. Gov subsidizes healthcare, healthcare costs skyrocket, people who are able look for ways to beat the system, our leaders decry a broken system (that they broke) saying they need to do more to fix the system.
 
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