Mid-life Career Change to Airline Pilot. It's Doable.

I keep getting distracted by the kitchen appliances in the background.
That's my wife's department. I filmed in this spot because there was this woman in my office writing case notes and she gets tired of pilot talk.
 
:D The struggle is real. I might have enjoyed flying 135 a lot more if it wasn't about 1/6th my IT rate AND scheduled me such that I couldn't do IT stuff in my downtime between legs.

This story makes me wish I had stuck it out a bit more though. Flying a desk today is wildly unsatisfying.
At the university, I get to take almost any class I want so I'm sitting in on a music class - The American Musical. Had to introduce myself -- I'm a mediocre musician and realized I'd never pay the bills as a mediocre musician. But as a mediocre engineer, I make an outlandish amount of money.
But I'm no longer a mediocre engineer (actually, was always an excellent engineer), I'm having much more fun (and a lousy salary) teaching computer science and playing with the cherokee. One class each semester pays the hangar, the insurance and the annual. Plus I don't have delivery deadlines.
 
…vibe coding with LLMs now…

That’s not the first time I’ve heard that ridiculous phrase. I know what it translates to and I don’t know what’s sadder; me knowing that or someone else admitting that’s they’re kink.
 
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That’s not the first time I’ve heard that ridiculous phrase. I know what it translates to and I don’t know what’s sadder; me knowing that or someone else admitting that’s there kink.
There's always something new and shiny to chase after! :D
 
*shakes head* Freaking coders. I spent part of my career doing hardware maintenance on mainframes and midrange systems, then ran an ISP from the early days through the latter part of the dialup era. Then I built and ran in-house corporate infrastructure - networks, servers, data centers.

I feel like I've worked in buggy whip factories my whole life life. "Agile" had an entirely different meaning for me.

Edit: I will say, though, for most of it I was doing the stuff I really loved doing. I can write code, I just don't enjoy it.
 
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Just caught this thread - really cool and thanks for the tips!

A quick very specific question - did they teach anything about use of onboard RADAR? I feel like this is the one area of training where I'm really lacking. On weather trips I try to line up the onboard RADAR with what XM, ADSB, and my eyes see and it never really tells the same picture (so I end up deviating around stuff that's probably nothing).
Onboard radar and datalinked NEXRAD radar *are* very different - It's not just your eyes.

NEXRAD is 10-20 minutes old by the time you're seeing it. They've taken multiple sweeps at all angles/altitudes from multiple stations and cleaned them up and combined them into one really nice picture of the whole sky.

Onboard radar is showing a cone out in front of you that isn't cleaned up at all (or maybe *slightly* cleaned up depending on what radar you have - Garmin's newest stuff is pretty impressive). Onboard radar is using a much smaller dish with lower range and resolution that's susceptible to shadowing, ground clutter, and all sorts of other things that show more (ground clutter) or less (shadowing) than is actually there, and it's only a small slice of the atmosphere close to you but it's atmosphere plus well out in front of you.

There's definitely both science and art to reading radar and it's probably not something that anyone is perfect at. I really liked the G3000 because I could split the MFD and bring up two depictions, NEXRAD on one side and onboard radar on the other side to compare, contrast, and learn.

Well he hasn't posted it yet, so I will:

Seeing @Mrs. SixPapaCharlie talk about the trip to ADS as teenagers while she's sitting on board his flight makes me smell onions even though it's the second time I saw it...

There is a lot that can spoil me on this equipment for sure.
I do hand fly the plane up to 18,000 and have committed to myself to continue to do so.
I am going to work up to getting the autopilot off higher on the approach but currently I am doing at about 1000 feet.
I never want to be the guy that goes to recurrent and has lost their stick and rudder skills.
We used to hand fly to 10,000 but I would agree with the prior poster who said there isn't as much value in that as there might be in doing more on the tail end of the flight. Of course, in the 135 world you get to fly a lot more legs without any pax in the back, and for those I'd hand fly below 10 on both ends. I did get to the point where I flew an entire (shortish, maybe 45 min) leg, with pax, by hand... But that's just more fatiguing than anything else, especially in cruise.

IMO, there is a lot of value in keeping your hands on the controls and your brain engaged even while the automation is running the show in those phases of flight. Once you're used to how it feels and sounds when the autopilot is flying, it's a lot easier to emulate that with the automation off.
 
Thanks for starting this thread. During the tech wreck I thought about moving to Alaska and being a bush pilot, a volleyball coach, and a rocket scientist.

Then I met the love of my life and she got chilled in the frozen food section of the grocery store. I instantly knew Alaska was not in my future. That was the right choice.

Later I read some books about being an Alaska bush pilot, and they reinforced my decision.

Tammy and I enjoyed our Alaskan honeymoon, but it was in the middle of the summer, and we were blessed with two weeks of great weather.

I do have a Bush Pilot ball cap, and that’s as close as I’m going to get to being bush pilot.
 
That's my wife's department. I filmed in this spot because there was this woman in my office writing case notes and she gets tired of pilot talk.
Tell the whiners in your comments that they can have double their money back if they'd quietly leave.
 
Looking at all this makes me glad I'm retired (and have been for 10 years). I does make me miss my medical, however.
 
"Agile" had an entirely different meaning for me.

Edit: I will say, though, for most of it I was doing the stuff I really loved doing. I can write code, I just don't enjoy it.
You mean "why listen to what you need and write it correctly the first time, when instead we can make more money by writing it poorly and spending the rest of eternity playing with it on your dime?
 
*shakes head* Freaking coders. I spent part of my career doing hardware maintenance on mainframes and midrange systems, then ran an ISP from the early days through the latter part of the dialup era. Then I built and ran in-house corporate infrastructure - networks, servers, data centers.

I feel like I've worked in buggy whip factories my whole life life. "Agile" had an entirely different meaning for me.

Edit: I will say, though, for most of it I was doing the stuff I really loved doing. I can write code, I just don't enjoy it.
Fortune 50's answer: let the India office work on it overnight and we'll have the code ready to run in the morning.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And don't get me started on Teams and Sharepoint. Trash, utter trash. But it came with the Enterprise Office licenses so suck it up.
 
You mean "why listen to what you need and write it correctly the first time, when instead we can make more money by writing it poorly and spending the rest of eternity playing with it on your dime?
In my particular case it meant, "Oh, you need something done that no one knows how (or is willing) to do? Sure, I'll teach myself how to do that."

Fortune 50's answer: let the India office work on it overnight and we'll have the code ready to run in the morning.

HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

And don't get me started on Teams and Sharepoint. Trash, utter trash. But it came with the Enterprise Office licenses so suck it up.
Three things right there that I wake up every single day and thank God I will never have to deal with again.
 
In my particular case it meant, "Oh, you need something done that no one knows how (or is willing) to do? Sure, I'll teach myself how to do that."


Three things right there that I wake up every single day and thank God I will never have to deal with again.
That goes back to at least the 90s, with consulting. "Do we know how to do that? No, but we're happy to let you pay us $150/hr learn it."

Or people selling allegedly turn-key applications that didn't exist yet. "Weekend wonders" they called them.
 
It's the worst part

Edit: it's the second worst part. The worst part is due to a crap ton of delays last night for storms we would be below minimum rest and so 3 hours into a wonderful night's sleep the hotel fire alarm is going off and I'm up right now and I don't want to be.

But I'd still choose this over sitting in a cubicle dealing with scrum Master and product owners and whatever else everyone's made up titles are

Sounds fatiguing.

[Putting ALPA mentor hat on]

Don't be afraid to use the F word. You're gonna get in way more trouble if something happens cause you're tired than if you called out fatigued.

[ALPA mentor hat off]
 
I’m sure this is behind a paywall but to his list of many accomplishments, Bryan can now add quoted Wall Street Journal expert on how many hours a pilot needs before working at an airline. The summary is: Enough to scare themselves, so the kind of hours matters as well as the total number.

Looking forward to seeing him testify before congress on this issue which seems like the next logical step.

 
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After the 8 procedure trainer sessions comes the procedure validation. It is a checkride in the CPT sim. I came in stressed, tunnel vision, anxeity, all the stuff that goes into a checking event.
The examiner was super cool, cracking jokes and doing his best to diffuse any nerves I had. We did the flight and the whole time, he was really casual and just being a fun loving pilot monitoring while I did the pilot flying portion. After, I said I appreciate your style, it was very comfortable flying with you. He said "IF you hadn't been doing such a good job, you might have gotten a totally different version of me".
That was a boost of confidence and kinda lit a fire under me that this might actually happen.
I suffer from the worst imposter syndrome and live my life knowing every day, this is the day I get fired.
I don't know where it comes from but it was amplified during this training so this was a good experience for me.
Everyone in the class that made it this far passed their procedures validation.

SIMS
We had access to full motion simulators that were for lack of a better word, Bad Ass! Feels, sounds, behaves like the actual jet which I can now confirm as I have 30 hours in the Jet.
The sims were a little less stressful then the CPT because they were the same 8 lessons so nothing new other than now we were "Flying".
Everyone gets 8 two hour sim sessions as pilot flying and 8 two hour sim sessions as pilot monitoring. This portion of the training was fun for the most part. It is mostly focused on emergencies and how to handle them.
We almost never land the sim. Every time you see a runway, there is a dear on it or a truck on it or something. In my sleep I hear "Go around, Flaps 2!" that is the phrase most spoken in the sim.
Towards the end of the sims it started getting more difficult. I was doing just ok but really struggling with the single Engine ILS w/ no autopilot. That is just a terribly difficult maneuver for me.
Due to this and a couple setbacks, when they asked how are you doing and I said I am 80% there, they offered some additional sim sessions and I accepted them.
There were a handful of others in the class that accepted them as well and this sort of became the point where the class is no longer a class but individuals finishing their training.
The group chat goes dark and we all fight as individuals for the finish line.

CHECKRIDE 1: MV
The Maneuvers validation is the hard checkride. This is where you have to do stall recovery, emergency descent, V1 cuts, engine fire, and anything else they want to throw at you including for me the dreaded single engine ILS, hand flown. I nailed all of the maneuvers and totally botched the Single Engine ILS which they know is tough so they leave it for last. They have contingency built into the training for botched maneuvers and I used all of the contingencies offered up to the point where I had the examiner behind me stating "This is it I need you to do this or it's game over" My legs were shaking. I did a v1 cut and setup for the ILS. I clicked the autopilot and auto throttles off and I was on top of the flight director, absolutely glued to it. Speed set, configured, "flaps 1", "Flaps 2", "Gear down, Flaps 3", "Flaps 5 Landing Checklist". Set power to 69%. Runway in sight, "Minimums" and I nailed that landing. I stopped the plane and the examiner goes. "It would have been less stressful if you had just done that the first time. Sat complete by the way, congrats".

CHECKRIDE 2: LOE
Last checking event in the sim is Line Operating Experience. This is 2, 2 hour flights from gate to gate. They just want to see you fly. They will throw very minor emergencies at you just to see how you run the checklists, etc. It is calm, slow paced and low stress. Mine was fairly uneventful. If you mess anything up you have 2 chances to repeat it. We debriefed my landing at the end. The examiner said it wasn't pretty and I would liked to have seen x,y,z but everything was done to standards. He printed out my ATP and Type rating and we went to the sim to snap a couple photos.

IOE & LINE CHECK
That brings us to the last 2 weeks in the actual jet. Last week, I went to Miami, Jacksonville, North Carolina, South Carolina, Oklahoma, Alabama, Amarillo, College Station, and DFW about 6 times. I've been everywhere man. I've been everywhere. The jet flies like the sim but it is easier to land and there are these nice people that bring you food and coffee. On the longer flights it moves very slow and is very calm. Up in the flight levels, it is beautiful and the radio gets really quiet especially late at night. There are stressful flights. We had a flight to DFW and back out where we had a 30 min ground stop and had to switch planes which meant after the flight, I have to do a post flight walk around, grab my bags, get to the next gate, do a pre flight walk around, then get the flight plan and performance loaded while all the passengers are already there. You can feel rushed when that happens but you have to fight it. All through training the moto was "Don't rush" the tendency to do so is real. On my 2nd flight, we had a bird strike at 10,000 feet. It was loud AF. On my 3rd landing, I had an APU fail. when we got the next plane, the APU was inop. Flying into Miani, we were dodging thunderstorms all along the coast. So the first time in the jet I got exposed to a lot. The last flight yesterday was my line check and it went well. A short hop from OKC to DFW so a lot to do in a short period of time but I got it done and the examiner signed me off. It was the perfect end to a check ride. I greased the landing. And having strangers shake your hand and say "Great Landing" On their way out might be the best end to a check ride ever.

I posted these in another thread but some cool moments.
My wife hitched a ride out to College station so she could get on one of my flights. That was awesome.
She made a video of her on the plane while I was making a PA. She is super happy about my being employed again and I think she digs pilots.
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Let me know if you know what kind of bird that was. I wonder what he was doing at 10,000 feet.

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All in all, I do believe this was the hardest thing I have done in my life especially given all that hangs in the balance. The training is damn hard but a full career swap at nearly 50 with two kids about to go to college and mom holding down the fort and praying this works out compounded it significantly. She took on a lot of additional clients to offset some of the financial strain but we're on the other side now.

I am happy to be working again. I am happy I made the change even though it was starting to feel like my only option since the IT world and I are no longer compatible.
I still feel like the new kid on the first day of school at the airport but that should fade. I like the airplane a lot and I really love the company. Their focus on safety isn't lip service they are very serious about it.
Even though I barely have a toe in the water, I suspect I will be a lifer here. I could see myself retiring into the training department should this last.
The culture and emphasis on safety, fatigue, prioritizing family, etc is nice.

I did make 1 single joke over the last 3 months. On the long flights, we take turns eating. Captain said its quiet if you want to eat first, this is a good time.
I handed her a can of tuna and a can opener and said can you open this while I get my utensils out of my bag?
The stare I got back was priceless. The can was not opened.
That is about the level of "fun" that can be had on the flight deck.

That's it. That's the story if anyone is curious about the airline training process, the E-175, or any non company specific things, I am happy to do deep dives into any of the stuff above.
It was all a mystery to me as I was going through it and I learned a ton.

Also, for all the people that post "I'm 26, 36, 46, 56... Is it too old to get started?", You are not too old to start, you are not too old to change things about your life that you don't like.
It is hard to change but we can do hard things if we need to.

Last Call,
-F.O. SixPapaCharlie
For arguably the best storyteller on PoA, this is inarguably my favorite story that I've read on here. Well earned. Congrats.

side note: texasclouds throws an apt first pitch.
 
I’m sure this is behind a paywall but to his list of many accomplishments, Bryan can now add quoted Wall Street Journal expert on how many hours a pilot needs before working at an airline. The summary is: Enough to scare themselves, so the kind of hours matters as well as the total number.

Looking forward to seeing him testify before congress on this issue which seems like the next logical step.


Yeah I told her you can have two pilots that both have 1500 hours and one of them got the hours going across country fighting storms making tough decisions and the other one got them flying around the pattern of flight school and both are qualified to fly my children so the number in my opinion isn't as important as how they got there.

But at the end of the day there's no way to evaluate that so drawing a line in the sand is the current solution and I don't have a strong opinion about the specific number.
 
the other one got them flying around the pattern of flight school

I'd say that's 50% sheer terror and 50% sheer boredom.

I have no love for time building CFIs, but I will admit they do have to fly shady flight school/rental planes with even more questionable students.
 
I'd say that's 50% sheer terror and 50% sheer boredom.

I have no love for time building CFIs, but I will admit they do have to fly shady flight school/rental planes with even more questionable students.
The terror is trying to hold a localizer without an autopilot, the boredom is cross country time, just sayin'... ;)
 
Sounds fatiguing.

[Putting ALPA mentor hat on]

Don't be afraid to use the F word. You're gonna get in way more trouble if something happens cause you're tired than if you called out fatigued.

[ALPA mentor hat off]
I've read a bunch of fatigue policies in the process of writing one, and one thing I noticed is that they all seem to give you another full 10 hours, and to me that would make me not want to call in in the first place.

Using the "hotel fire alarm" example, or even "I just didn't get to sleep as quickly as I should have", let's say you got maybe 5 hours of sleep. Not enough, but not nothing. No, I don't want to fly the 7AM flight... But I also don't need to blow another entire day in this hotel, I just need to go back to sleep for a couple hours and then I'm good as new and I'd rather work now.

Are there any carriers that allow you to just get a couple more hours in and then go, or are they all this way?
 
Are there any carriers that allow you to just get a couple more hours in and then go, or are they all this way?
Yes. When we call in fatigued, we work out a time when we'll be ready to work again with the scheduler then they do a schedule repair based on that.
 
Yes. When we call in fatigued, we work out a time when we'll be ready to work again with the scheduler then they do a schedule repair based on that.

Interesting. How does that square with 117.25?

I get that the crewmember was afforded 10hrs/8 hrs sleep before making the call, but isn’t making the call considered duty for the purposes of 117.25? To that end, isn’t the schedule change a new flight duty period?
 
Interesting. How does that square with 117.25?

I get that the crewmember was afforded 10hrs/8 hrs sleep before making the call, but isn’t making the call considered duty for the purposes of 117.25? To that end, isn’t the schedule change a new flight duty period?
Maybe it’s the difference between the pilot calling the company and the company calling the pilot.
 
I've read a bunch of fatigue policies in the process of writing one, and one thing I noticed is that they all seem to give you another full 10 hours, and to me that would make me not want to call in in the first place.

Using the "hotel fire alarm" example, or even "I just didn't get to sleep as quickly as I should have", let's say you got maybe 5 hours of sleep. Not enough, but not nothing. No, I don't want to fly the 7AM flight... But I also don't need to blow another entire day in this hotel, I just need to go back to sleep for a couple hours and then I'm good as new and I'd rather work now.

Are there any carriers that allow you to just get a couple more hours in and then go, or are they all this way?

I am 100% convinced that pilots are pulling the hotel fire alarm.
It has happened twice now and both times around 4 AM when we have a 5 AM van.

These hotels are I assume in some way negotiating deals with the airlines because they have a large number of pilots in them.
Last week when I heard a male voice in my room saying "EVACUATE EVACUATE" which by the way is the same voice over guy that says "Fifty, Forty, Thirty, Twenty, Ten", I freaked out a little. Apparently in some of the hotels its not just a buzzer. I saw people streaming out into the courtyard then opened my door and didn't smell smoke so I went back to bed.

We had 2 crews In the van later and I asked "Did y'all evacuate?" all of the FAs did but none of the pilots did. One of them looked a little sketchy.


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Interesting. How does that square with 117.25?
Pilots are allowed to make phone calls during a required rest period. It's only a break of the rest period of the company requires the pilot to make contact.

I don't know if you can start a new FDP four hours later, as an example, but you had a legal rest prior to your fatigue call so they can start a RAP at your original report time, give you a few more hours rest, then have you complete a shortened FDP later.
 
It's the worst part

Edit: it's the second worst part. The worst part is due to a crap ton of delays last night for storms we would be below minimum rest and so 3 hours into a wonderful night's sleep the hotel fire alarm is going off and I'm up right now and I don't want to be.

But I'd still choose this over sitting in a cubicle dealing with scrum Master and product owners and whatever else everyone's made up titles are
Yeah. Sounds fatiguing
 
Congrats! And great write up.

If I may, here's some more unsolicited advice. Two bits, in fact.

First: One day you will put in for upgrade. And even though you already know the airplane, you'll again be stressed and feel that need to put things on hold to dedicate yourself to being successful in the training. Give yourself some time now to relax, enjoy flying jets, and get comfortable in your role as an FO. But before too long, start thinking like a Captain-in-training. You don't need to start studying the flows or the Captain call outs in the profile quite yet, but start paying attention to what the CAs are doing in their flows, and learning why. When they have to make decisions, think through what you would do, observe what they do, and ask questions if they're different. And all those things in the FOM that FO's tend to write off as "Captain stuff' once they've been on the line for a while? Stay familiar with them. Scenario based training is great, and there's no better scenario than one you're living in real life. Start to build your own Captain senses and knowledge when your crew is faced with passenger issues, rare/infrequent situations that involve FOM recall, FAR things you don't get to see very often, transportation/accomodation issues on the layovers, etc. Don't let these learning opportunities go to waste. When time permits, go through the release thoroughly, like a Captain looking for easter eggs in the sim. The more you do this, the faster you'll get at it. And if there's anything in the release you aren't familiar with, get it figured out, even if you don't have time until you get to the hotel. The more you do these things on the line as an FO, the more that your upgrade training will be a validation of--not training for--Captain-level competencies.

Second, when you're flying the line you're going to see a variety of techniques. Sometimes the CA will want you to do it their way. As an FO, you have two options. You can be frustrated, or at least annoyed, that you're being asked to fly it not-your-way (the path that a lot of FOs take). The other path is to do see it as an opportunity to try another technique under the watch of someone that is familiar with it. Assuming you agree it's safe, pick the latter. Build up a vocabulary of techniques that you are proficient in. This expands your comfort zone, and is helpful when you move to the left seat. A CA that is only comfortable when things are done one particular way will be a micro-managing Captain. They have to be, because their comfort zone is very small and they have an obligation to keep the airplane in it. Consider yourself a collector of techniques, and you will know the airplane better, have a bigger comfort zone, and eventually be a CA that can give FOs the space to make small mistakes and learn from them.

Again, congrats!
I teach anesthesiology to med students and residents. Other than laziness, inattebtiveness, or arrogance, the action which is most counterproductive is when a resident with say 4 months of experience says “in my experience” or “I like to do it this way”

I tell junior residents their job is to expose themselves to as many different ways of doing something, as possible. Ask profs why they’re doing something a certain way.
 
I teach anesthesiology to med students and residents. Other than laziness, inattebtiveness, or arrogance, the action which is most counterproductive is when a resident with say 4 months of experience says “in my experience” or “I like to do it this way”

I tell junior residents their job is to expose themselves to as many different ways of doing something, as possible. Ask profs why they’re doing something a certain way.

I’m learning there are many ways to do things in the plane and each captain is different. Most are glad to have someone in the right seat who is there to learn. I present myself as brand new, with a notepad in hand. If a captain writes something down, I’ll ask to see it after the flight and, if time allows, have them walk me through what I don’t understand. I tell them I’ll verbalize everything before I do it so they know I won’t start pushing buttons on the guidance panel without warning.

Most captains have been professional and relaxed.

One sat me down and said, “I have four rules. If we don’t break any of them we’re going to have fun today.” He was firm but not mean. After we landed, he gathered me and the FAs to ask if there was anything he could have done better. There was no question he was in charge. While his style was tougher, I liked it because his confidence rubbed off on me, though I could see others not feeling the same way.

I’ve only had one captain who made the cockpit uncomfortable. They ignored me for the first three minutes and opened by making sure I understood how experienced they were and when I replied, “That’s good, I’m brand new and can learn a lot from your experience.”, They shot back, “I don’t get check airman pay for training people.” When leaving the jet bridge, a pilot pulled me aside and asked, “Have you two flown together?” When I said yes, he just nodded and said, “Then you already know.” The takeaway was clear, if you have a certain je ne sais quoi, people will know about it.

There are many ways do do this stuff so I try to remain humble, take notes, observe closely, ask questions, and communicate before I act. I have 70 hours in the 175 and I am mostly comfortable start to finish on a "normal" flight. When the EICAS interrupts, I pay close attention to the captain's decision making process. I like the job. The firehose now feels like a water hose. The learning has become for more manageable.
 
I’ve only had one captain who made the cockpit uncomfortable. They ignored me for the first three minutes and opened by making sure I understood how experienced they were and when I replied, “That’s good, I’m brand new and can learn a lot from your experience.”, They shot back, “I don’t get check airman pay for training people.”

That’s probably the prime reason i couldn’t do what you did. if i came across someone like that, i’d make snarky (but funny, at least to me) comments and end up at HR.
 
…so I try to remain humble...
Humble, approachable, and credible are three great traits to have. The risk in a seniority-based shop is advancement without any of those traits.

One great piece of advice I got early in my career was to bloom where you’re planted. That can be in a company, in a role, or in a crew pairing. Sounds like you’re doing great with that so far.
 
Humble, approachable, and credible are three great traits to have. The risk in a seniority-based shop is advancement without any of those traits.

One great piece of advice I got early in my career was to bloom where you’re planted. That can be in a company, in a role, or in a crew pairing. Sounds like you’re doing great with that so far.
I like it.
 
....I’ve only had one captain who made the cockpit uncomfortable. They ignored me for the first three minutes and opened by making sure I understood how experienced they were and when I replied, “That’s good, I’m brand new and can learn a lot from your experience.”, They shot back, “I don’t get check airman pay for training people.” When leaving the jet bridge, a pilot pulled me aside and asked, “Have you two flown together?” When I said yes, he just nodded and said, “Then you already know.” The takeaway was clear, if you have a certain je ne sais quoi, people will know about it.
that's the best time to say "hey, pull my finger....."
 
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