U.S. or other world pilots

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  1. brien23

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    Are U.S. GA Pilots better or worse trained than any other other private pilots in the world?
     
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    :rollercoaster:Oh boy...here we go!
     
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    I’d say the eurotart countries do much more book training

    But when it comes to actually flying I’d say the US wins

    Which makes sense as we have the strongest GA scene on earth, and by a large margin.
     
  4. Morgan3820

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    Other countries allow ordinary citizens to fly airplanes? I heard Canada might and I saw some small planes flying in Switzerland, so I guess they do. But anyone else? Australia? NZ?
     
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    Yes. Without a doubt, yes.
     
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    Better than Alaskan pilots, as they think they are their own country.
     
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    These other countries only issue pilots licences so their citizens can come to the USA and fly illegally.
    The Administration should do something about this.
     
  9. StevieTimes

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    I actually read a study about this recently. They noted that it was not just the U.S.A. with the best pilots, but specifically Minnesota. Near the Twin Cities. West Metro, actually.
     
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    I personally don’t care if there are better trained pilots than us in other countries. What I care about is that very few of them have anywhere near the freedoms that we do when it comes to flying and none of their national airspace systems are as good as ours. We have it pretty good here in the USA.
     
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    At the level I work with, U.S. pilots average among the best (there are always exceptions). But take away their flight director or GPS, and they're right down there with the masses...except the Aussies & some of the Mexicans, who seem to thrive in that environment.
     
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    Why does it seem (to me at least) that every other country sends their pilots to the US to be trained? I can understand countries with no land such as the UK and smaller Asian countries, but China?
     
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    Nobody to train them...All the 300-hour pilots in China are sitting in the right seat of an airbus.
     
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    We’d be better off if we were! But you’re the Alaska expert so what would I know?
     
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    From what I understand, it's a LOT cheaper to fly here than in most of Europe and probably many other places. Imagine having tp pay a fee for every touch & go...
     
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    Yah, well we are a young country only 59 years young just like Hawaii...:rolleyes:
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    Other world pilots? Like pilots from another world?

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    That's part of why the percentage of glider pilots is much higher in Europe than here.
     
  20. steingar

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    Lots of folks come from overseas to train here. Haven't heard about too many Americans going overseas to learn to fly. Speaks volumes.
     
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    That easily boils down to one word: Cost
     
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    I’ve always found that to be an amazing fact that even with round trip commercial airfare, hotel costs, eating in a foreign land, and other associated travel costs that it is still cheaper to come here to train.
     
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    Yup. On the other hand, even with round trip commercial airfare, hotel costs, eating in a foreign land, and associated travel costs, it is cheaper to go to to Spain for a hip replacement than to have it done in the US. The average hip replacement in the USA costs $40,364. In Spain, it costs $7,371.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medical_tourism
     
  24. Pilawt

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    Also more airspace to fly in with fewer restrictions, and generally better weather.

    The Lufthansa-owned school at my home field near Phoenix trains pilots for both Lufthansa and for the German Air Force. They own their own 4500-foot-long, ILS-equipped runway in the middle of the desert about 20 miles south (1AZ0). It would be tough to run an operation like that most anywhere else.

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    100LL is $5/gal here. $10/gal in Europe.
     
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    USA!!

    United State of Alaska

     
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    I do not know what to say. I never flew with or even known a pilot from any other worlds.....
     
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    I just got back from a morning flight in the new Cub. Using the east route at Hood within a minute of takeoff? Number of structures seen? Zero. Number of roads seen? Zero. Number of airplanes seen? Two float planes in the distance. Cross three miles of the Cook Inlet out of Hood and it's a big lonely place. And that's what most of us like about it. Is flying different here? Damn right it is. I love it!
     
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    In my experience, flying in Alaska has been much easier than in the lower 48. That's why I keep going back..!!! :yesnod::yesnod:

    I hardly ever see planes out here in the southwest, except for the long con trails way overhead, or at the airport.

    I have only been ramped checked once in the lower 48, and that was because the chief pilot ratted me out.... he told our POI I was sitting in the corner of the FBO trying to hide...:lol::lol:

    I can't remember the number of times I have been ramped checked in Alaska, even once a Kantishna Airstrip.
     
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    That was my understanding, from instructors here in Norway. They claim regular PPL ground school is a lot more to learn than in the US, but from reading here I'm not so sure. About it being more rigorous here.

    After just completing ground school and the exam, all in Norwegian (which is a second language for me) I'm not surprised. Also, it's cheaper to fly in the US, Flight school, etc. and there is some prestige in learning in the US. They don't offer it in English, so far.
     
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    I fly in the US and in the UK....Touch and go at my local field in the UK £11.50 a pop = ($15.50) .....Errm I don't do many T&G in the Uk...!!!
     
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    I had a German student who just wanted to fly around and do touch and goes. At the end, he said that was worth about $300 of touch and goes ($30 each in Germany I guess).
     
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    Someone once said that Boeing aircraft are designed to be flown by ex-military pilots; and Airbus aircraft are designed to be flown by nephews of third-world politicians and have a chance of not killing anybody.
     
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    While it’s true the Airbus *can* be flown safely by less experienced pilots, that does not mean it’s an easy airplane to fly in the US.
     
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    The world aerobatics championships are coming up soon in Romania. Does anyone believe one country will dominate?
     
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    The US, especially the southeast. It's hard to beat the experience of all the canceled fly-in lunches. :D
     
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    Haven't heard from Canada, better the same or worse training.
     
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    Yup. I've flown with a colleague who belongs to a flying club in the Rome area.

    Amen to that. I don't recall what my 1/4 of the cost of the plane and other fees was for Rome to L'Aquila and back was, but it wasn't cheap.
     
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    Started my training over there actually, worse minus in my day they did pre solo spin training, something I carried over to my own CFIing
     
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    Europeans like to think their training is better.