Oshkosh 2025

The other option is to go with an unimproved site as you only have to pay from the date to you plan to arrive vs from the date of the reservation as with the improved sites. Of course, all that does is get you advance camping credentials streamlining getting on campground but the downside is the unimproved sites are all first come first serve which is why folks pay the price and occupy the choice sites the day Scholler opens.
 
I think the nonprofit should be in quotes.
Nonprofit doesn't mean small. They are a 501(c)(3) which comes with a variety of requirements, all of which they comply with.

Heck, Ozzy raised almost 200M for charity a few days ago doing one final show.
 
So..... If you hear on the ATTIS that the GAP parking is full, is there still an option to go park in the GAC / Camping section? Surely you don't turn around an go home :) .
Alright, if you'd really like to worry about things that are not likely to happen, here are some more! :)
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-- SOS Bros runs out of beer
 
Alright, if you'd really like to worry about things that are not likely to happen, here are some more! :)
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-- (ok I had a bunch listed but am too superstitious to write them! So I'll just keep the following.)
-- SOS Bros runs out of beer
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So..... If you hear on the ATTIS that the GAP parking is full, is there still an option to go park in the GAC / Camping section? Surely you don't turn around an go home :) .
Unlikely. Now, you may be parking closer to Milwaukee than Oshkosh, but their goal is to avoid turning anyone away.
 
I think the nonprofit should be in quotes.
All those bathrooms, shower buildings, campsites, roads, smooth fields, trash services, security, etc. cost money. And one week a year pays for most of it plus a big part of EAA's other operations. This ain't a mom and pop shoestring organization/event.
 
Where in the NOTAM does it say to "keep yer dang mouth shut"??
It doesn't say that, word for word... They're nicer about it than I am. ;)

But yes, it says it very nicely and gently right in the piece you quoted:
No verbal responses are required.

And yes, there are times where it is appropriate to talk on the radio:

If you do not understand the ATC instructions, or need clarification, request instructions on frequency.

I don't see "if you don't like your runway assignment" among the exceptions there or on any other page.

I stand by my previous statement (sorry you don't like it). If there is little to no traffic, it is perfectly fine to request another assignment.
You don't know if there's little to no traffic, and what else the controllers are up to. All you know is what you can see in front of you and what you hear - I'll give you the scenario below.

In fact the 2 times I have done the controllers happily obliged. :)
It may sound like they "happily obliged" but they know that the best way to get back on track is to just say "Approved as requested" to get you out of their hair and come up with a new plan for the traffic behind you because you screwed theirs up. And yes, I have seen them do the opposite and say "unable" and then have the pilot make the request AGAIN. :mad2:

The controllers did not "ask" me anything. How is it "sending them further down the tubes" or "clogging up their frequency" when there is little to no traffic?
Go out to Fisk on the ground when it's busy and watch them. You can't possibly know everything that is going on from your cockpit.

Here's a scenario I've personally seen from the ground at Fisk: Aircraft arrives at Fisk a couple miles after the previous one. ATC assigns them to follow the tracks to 27 and "monitor tower" just as THREE airplanes all arrive simultaneously, one just over the top of another and the third coming from a slightly different direction (maybe GPS direct instead of over the tracks). The pilots present (and probably the controllers!) are gasping and just as the guy on the radio tries to deconflict the planes that all just arrived, the guy they just sent to 27 keys up the mic and asks if he can have 36. Controllers groan. When the transmission finishes, the controller immediately "happily obliges" with "approved as requested" and then launches into deconflicting the remaining traffic. He did a masterful job, sending the "GPS" guy on a 360 and splitting the other two between the tracks and the road while another controller picked up the phone to call the south Tower position and let them know that there's two coming down the road with less than a half mile so they probably need to split them between 36L and 36R (and hope nobody's coming from the Warbird arrival right around then since they're usually given the 36s and somebody would have to go around, which is a bit more difficult to handle when the sky is already full of airplanes...)

And then he hands the mic to a third controller 'cuz he needs to take a breath.

So yeah. KEEP. YOUR. DANG. MOUTH. SHUT. Unless you actually have a *need* for assistance, or you didn't understand what they told you, or you're a flight, or any of the other things you need to actually call ATC for. Requesting the other runway isn't a need unless you aren't capable of landing on the assigned one in the wind conditions that are present, in which case you probably shouldn't be flying into OSH at all.
 
LOL Git off my lawn

I am not reading all that rant.

I correct myself. I am not sorry if you don't like it.
 
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I'm now way behind, but I'll catch up! With all of the bad wx here in Texas, I'm behind on photoshoots, changing the oil on the plane, waterproofing the tent, etc. But, six days until we launch for Wisconsin.
 
Yikes - one week left. In need to accelerate my Rosetta Stone language work to learn Wisconsin speak phrases

Hey there, ya you bet cha.
Cheese curds and beer breakfast plate please
I’m a part owner of the Packers don’t cha know
 
Yikes - one week left. In need to accelerate my Rosetta Stone language work to learn Wisconsin speak phrases

Hey there, ya you bet cha.
Cheese curds and beer breakfast plate please
I’m a part owner of the Packers don’t cha know

We had beer and cheese curds at the airshow bar one afternoon and it was a revelation. Also a stomach ache.
 
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Like everything else, they appeal to the carnival/state fair crowd. I like plain cheese curds, but you'll find everything deep fried at OSH. Not saying I didn't eat them... :biggrin:
 
changes to the B40 pedestrian gates this year:
Were you in attendance the time they locked the gates and some inebriated homebuilders went over, under, and around the gates?
 
changes to the B40 pedestrian gates this year:

Hopefully this does not affect the ability of people camped in the North 40 to slip out of their tents and pee along the edge of the runway at 3am. Or so I heard. From a friend. More like an acquaintance, really.
 
Were you in attendance the time they locked the gates and some inebriated homebuilders went over, under, and around the gates?
Can neither confirm or deny but have it on good authority you and Wayne were involved, and perhaps a couple of others.
 
Just saw this on FB:
New at SOS Bros. In 2025…Ice Cold
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There’s a place up near Gleason, WI called Club X to C, at the corner of county road X and county road C, that’s a bar, restaurant, golf course, and car repair shop. Their restaurant serves broasted (deep fried in a pressure cooker) chicken. I’ve gone there since I was a kid 60 years ago. The chicken plus an ice-cold Spotted Cow is the ultimate eating experience.
 
Thursday weather looking iffy at best for early arrival
 
Yikes - one week left. In need to accelerate my Rosetta Stone language work to learn Wisconsin speak phrases

Hey there, ya you bet cha.
Cheese curds and beer breakfast plate please
I’m a part owner of the Packers don’t cha know


And don’t forget to drink Wisconsinably, youse hosers from outta state eh….
 
When the weather is too bad for VFR, fly IFR. When the weather is too bad for IFR, fly VFR.


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When the weather is too bad for VFR, fly IFR. When the weather is too bad for IFR, fly VFR.


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The only issue with that is during the period when the NOTAM is in effect, Osh and the surrounding airports are under Special Traffic Management Program rules meaning to arrive or depart IFR at any of the affected airports you have to have a reservation slot that you can get no earlier than 72 hrs and no later than 12hrs prior. There’s no more than 8 slots an hour for arrivals and they go fast for the peak arrival days. Bottom line is no slot, no arrival.

I’ve flown in IFR the past few years regardless of the weather because I find it easier.
 
Yup. Same as the last two years, I’m gonna be playing the eBay game with my finger on the Enter key 72 hours before my desired slot.


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Yup. Same as the last two years, I’m gonna be playing the eBay game with my finger on the Enter key 72 hours before my desired slot.


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Ditto.
 
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So yeah. KEEP. YOUR. DANG. MOUTH. SHUT. Unless you actually have a *need* for assistance, or you didn't understand what they told you, or you're a flight, or any of the other things you need to actually call ATC for. Requesting the other runway isn't a need unless you aren't capable of landing on the assigned one in the wind conditions that are present, in which case you probably shouldn't be flying into OSH at all.

Very simply, guys who talk, guys who don't comply, guys who do GPS to RIPON, guys with terrible airmanship, are all reasons why I no longer go to OSH.
In 2016, was descended on by a baron going well over 90 (I can do 90 but it aint comfy) on the RIPON leg. He was so close I could see that his tires were Flight Customs. This despite two other VFR pilots on the lookout- we got the guy's shadow, as our first warning.

When his shadow darkened the cabin, I closed throttles and slipped (I didn't want to raise the tail) clear, and exited SE at 500 AGL.

I re-entered for FonDuLac. When I got to the pumps the FAA was tearing the guy a New one. And I was a resource. I still have his name. I hope he is removed frm the pilot pool- didn't even have the notam. Turns out he was the guy calling Fon DuLac tower.

"No thank you Ma'am".
 
Very simply, guys who talk, guys who don't comply, guys who do GPS to RIPON, guys with terrible airmanship, are all reasons why I no longer go to OSH.
In 2016, was descended on by a baron going well over 90 (I can do 90 but it aint comfy) on the RIPON leg. He was so close I could see that his tires were Flight Customs. This despite two other VFR pilots on the lookout- we got the guy's shadow, as our first warning.

When his shadow darkened the cabin, I closed throttles and slipped (I didn't want to raise the tail) clear, and exited SE at 500 AGL.

I re-entered for FonDuLac. When I got to the pumps the FAA was tearing the guy a New one. And I was a resource. I still have his name. I hope he is removed frm the pilot pool- didn't even have the notam. Turns out he was the guy calling Fon DuLac tower.

"No thank you Ma'am".
This is exactly why I now fly the IFR arrival exclusively regardless of weather conditions and will continue to do so as long as the NOTAM permits it.
 

I’m still looking forward to flying VFR FISK. However you get there, hope you have a great time !
 
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