Oct. 23-25 - 20th Anniversary Gaston’s Fly-in

Best weekend?

  • Oct. 9-11

    Votes: 4 40.0%
  • Oct. 16-18

    Votes: 6 60.0%
  • Oct. 23-25

    Votes: 9 90.0%

  • Total voters
    10
  • Poll closed .

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20th!? Well, at least the PoA history has nothing prior to 2006. Perhaps internet arcana @flyingcheesehead has the details.

If you haven’t been, check the other threads. It’s a cool place with good folks, planes, food and fishing. What more can you ask for?
 
Well, you made me look. My first Gaston’s trip was June of 2005 and I was at the second one. So the first one would have been June of 2004.

But let’s call 2026 “The Official 20th Anniversary of the Pilots of America Gaston’s Fly-in”.

Wow! I’m the first to vote?
 
Well, you made me look. My first Gaston’s trip was June of 2005 and I was at the second one. So the first one would have been June of 2004.
I concur with this - My first Gaston's trip was also June of 2005, and that was the second one.

PoA started on Feb. 22, 2005 so the first (2004) Gaston's was organized on the original AOPA web board, which we later nicknamed the "Yellow Board". PoA (the "Blue Board") was put together in response to AOPA's announcement that the yellow board was shutting down until the organization could figure out to herd all of us heathens.

I can't find a definitive thread organizing Gaston's 2005, but there is a made it home safe thread that talks about things a bit. Unfortunately, during one of the migrations of PoA to a new platform all the old attachments were lost/delinked.
 
All 3 weekends are open for me right now, lmk what you all decide so I can add it to my calendar.
 
A few random pics. June 25, 2005.
Oh to be young again.
Yep, they still have that van lol. Is that @EdFred on the end in the second Pic? Don't recognize anyone else, other than Sue.
 
A few random pics. June 25, 2005.
Oh to be young again.
Yep, they still have that van lol. Is that @EdFred on the end in the second Pic? Don't recognize anyone else, other than Sue.
First pic: Diana is on the left, I don't recognize anyone else even though I was there. Or is that Barry Stratton @bstratt facing left?
Second pic: I think it's Mark Bell (@markb5900) on the left, @Michael who brought a Mooney from Lake Havasu City, Nick @SkyHog Brennan, and @EdFred.
Third pic: Yep, Sue. She always brought great food... If I were @Lance F I'd probably weigh 400 pounds.

I'll post some of my pics later. I mostly have airplane pics and not many people pics, but I do have @Greg Bockelman standing in front of his 195.

Crazy thing is that this was over 20 years ago... It's been an entire generation. I used to be one of the young guys, now I'm merely average! At the Sleepy Hollow gathering at OSH this year, I saw Greg sitting outside and realized he probably didn't know any of you young 'uns who were inside. Then a bunch of us oldsters got together a table, with @gprellwitz and Leslie too. And I think I'm forgetting a few because I'm old now.
 
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Any weekend works for me. We should be able to attend this year.
 
Last call for votes! Chicago style, vote as much as you want.
 
All weekends work for me. And I'll be there!

Also, cool seeing the handful of old photos. Nice to see PoA traditions still going :)
 
I'm just trying to figure out how the percentages work on the poll. Is this the new Math I keep hearing about?
 
I'm just trying to figure out how the percentages work on the poll. Is this the new Math I keep hearing about?
I think it's people voting for multiple options
 
I'd like to try to make it in, does one need to book a cabin way in advance? Is tent camping an option?
 
I'd like to try to make it in, does one need to book a cabin way in advance? Is tent camping an option?
Way in advance - standby. I'll ask about availability that weekend. They do get other fly-ins and weddings that have caused a shortage in the past.

Tent camping on site, no. I do recall a state(?) park nearby. But the Gaston's cabins are pretty unique. You gotta try them at least once. (Note I didn't say excellent :D - you will not confuse it with a Ritz). But all in all, the cabins are pretty similar to Rough River with more humidity and less aggressive toilets.
 
There is good availability with 7 ultra deluxes left and plenty of other styles. They said if weather is impacting some folks and they can't fly in, they'll try to work with you. I'm booked!
 
We let the vote prevail without challenge: 10/23-10/25? Just want to make sure I get the right weekend :)

pretty similar to Rough River with more humidity and less aggressive toilets.
"aggressive toilets" -- I think I must have been staying at a different rough river than you!
 
We let the vote prevail without challenge: 10/23-10/25? Just want to make sure I get the right weekend :)


"aggressive toilets" -- I think I must have been staying at a different rough river than you!
Yessir. I bumped the threat title with the dates.

As for RR, at least the cabin I had, the loo sounded like it would rip your face off if you were too close.
 
There is good availability with 7 ultra deluxes left and plenty of other styles. They said if weather is impacting some folks and they can't fly in, they'll try to work with you. I'm booked!

The “ultra deluxe”… Is that the ones at the end that we use for a “party cabin”?

Anyone want to split with Jill and I?


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The “ultra deluxe”… Is that the ones at the end that we use for a “party cabin”?

Anyone want to split with Jill and I?


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I have instructed @mrsjimk to coordinate with Mrs. Crash.
 
I think my phone is listening to me…



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OK, comments on this as a Commanche pilot.
Now try doing it IFR allegedly, hypothetically, in theory..... Nevermind.

But more curious... Did I just see a Comanche land nosewheel first?
Imma try that. Probably puts less stress on the wings.
 
So, I'm a fairly new pilot but seriously considering coming to this. Stupid Questions:

1) This is just in general but how do you guys plan out something this far in advance? Weather is so unpredictable, at least where I am (Denver). I did my first real cross country back in May, from here to Los Angeles and that worked out but it just seems like planning a cross country months in advance is ripe for having to change or cancel based on weather. Taking time off from work, etc, just to have things fall apart closer to the date of departure just seems like a real issue.

2) I assume that the dates are chosen because weather is usually pretty benign in that area at that time of year?

3) When do people arrive and leave?

4) I've never landed on grass. Do I need to practice that a bunch before making this trip?

5) What should I expect? Is it just people hanging out telling pilot stories of which I have very few lol, or is there more going on? What should I bring other than normal travel items, if anything?

Thanks.
 
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So, I'm a fairly new pilot but seriously considering coming to this. Stupid Questions:

1) This is just in general but how do you guys plan out something this far in advance? Weather is so unpredictable, at least where I am (Denver). I did my first real cross country back in May, from here to Los Angeles and that worked out but it just seems like planning a cross country months in advance is ripe for having to change or cancel based on weather. Taking time off from work, etc, just to have things fall apart closer to the date of departure just seems like a real issue.

2) I assume that the dates are chosen because weather is usually pretty benign in that area at that time of year?

3) When do people arrive and leave?

4) I've never landed on grass. Do I need to practice that a bunch before making this trip?

5) What should I expect? Is it just people hanging out telling pilot stories of which I have very few lol, or is there more going on? What should I bring other than normal travel items, if anything?

Thanks.
You should join!

Your questions: (this will be my 5th Gastons fly-in with PoA)
1. It's XC travel, so be flexible. There's no other trick. Essentially we book it on faith and hope it'll work out. Weather throws a wrench into the plans for some people and they have to cancel. It's sort of the risk we take. You can sort of buffer that by adding a day before/after so there's less weather pressure. 2 days if you REALLY want to make it.
2. It's because Arkansas is hot as **** and humid during summer, so I think everyone enjoys fall a little better... Plus it's a tree-lined areas and once the leaves start changing colors in fall it's scenic.
3. People arrive Thurs/Fri, scattered arrivals, and nearly everyone leaves Sunday after a group breakfast
4. I practiced a grand total of 3x grass strips before landing on grass at Gastons with my P28R, but YMMV. As grass goes I think Gastons is decent; people land with Cessnas, Pipers, Mooneys, ultralights, turboprops.... You can also land at KBPK (paved rwy) and the hotel will pick you up with a shuttle. Also helps for refueling cuz a lot of people refuel over there. It's only about a 60 second flight from Gastons, or a 15 min shuttle ride.
5. It's a social scene with usually I'd guess ~15-20 people ballpark? Not an Oshkosh size hangout. Folks of all ages and flying experience levels. It's a low-key hangout. There's some beer drinking and laughing, some card games, some general fun: grilling + hanging out + talking about airplanes and other stuff. Friendly group. I don't think anyone ever feels out of place or unwelcome :)
 
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It's a long, safe grass strip. Only "tricky" part is you really won't see the runway until a mile final as it is a bit of a dog leg inbound. One way in. One way out. Just follow the river and that will make your downwind and base leg for you.

Very well groomed. Come on out?
 
So, I'm a fairly new pilot but seriously considering coming to this. Stupid Questions:

1) This is just in general but how do you guys plan out something this far in advance? Weather is so unpredictable, at least where I am (Denver). I did my first real cross country back in May, from here to Los Angeles and that worked out but it just seems like planning a cross country months in advance is ripe for having to change or cancel based on weather. Taking time off from work, etc, just to have things fall apart closer to the date of departure just seems like a real issue.

2) I assume that the dates are chosen because weather is usually pretty benign in that area at that time of year?

3) When do people arrive and leave?

4) I've never landed on grass. Do I need to practice that a bunch before making this trip?

5) What should I expect? Is it just people hanging out telling pilot stories of which I have very few lol, or is there more going on? What should I bring other than normal travel items, if anything?

Thanks.
All good questions. And you’ve got some good replies already. We can dial it in more with a few details from you. What are you flying? How long you been flying? Instrument rated?

It’s about the only terrain within 50 miles but I assume you’ve dealt with more difficult terrain in the hills by you.

GA is a crap shoot. If you can’t make it that weekend, and you made a rez, they’ll let you reschedule.

The dates are chosen based on avoiding hot AF summer temps and the tribal availability. And somewhat benign weather, though morning tend to be foggy so don’t be in a hurry to go and thus we do Sunday brunch. There was one year where, well, only one person made it in (sorry Doc). And 6pc, he scoots out early. :goofy:

What to do? It’s a fishing resort. It’s got walking trails (I typed hiking but that means something different in CO). We’ll hang in small groups by day and usually congregate as a large group for dinners. Maybe we’ll fly somewhere like Trigger Gap on Saturday.

We cover a pretty wide range of ages. It’s a great crowd and I guarantee you’ll be welcome.

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All good questions. And you’ve got some good replies already. We can dial it in more with a few details from you. What are you flying? How long you been flying? Instrument rated?

It’s about the only terrain within 50 miles but I assume you’ve dealt with more difficult terrain in the hills by you.

GA is a crap shoot. If you can’t make it that weekend, and you made a rez, they’ll let you reschedule.

The dates are chosen based on avoiding hot AF summer temps and the tribal availability. And somewhat benign weather, though morning tend to be foggy so don’t be in a hurry to go and thus we do Sunday brunch. There was one year where, well, only one person made it in (sorry Doc). And 6pc, he scoots out early. :goofy:

What to do? It’s a fishing resort. It’s got walking trails (I typed hiking but that means something different in CO). We’ll hang in small groups by day and usually congregate as a large group for dinners. Maybe we’ll fly somewhere like Trigger Gap on Saturday.

We cover a pretty wide range of ages. It’s a great crowd and I guarantee you’ll be welcome.

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Thanks for all the replies. To answer the questions from this post. I got my PPL back in February. I fly a 182P. Been flying as much as possible around Denver since getting my certificate and took the ground portion of a Mountain Flying class recently. Still hoping to do a mountain flight with one of the instructors from that class but weather wasn't cooperating that weekend so I've got to revisit that. I've watched a few YouTube videos on landings at Gaston's and it doesn't seem bad if you're prepared. Ultimately, I want to make this trip a week or longer. My Stepmother lives in Tampa, FL, so I'm thinking about attending this weekend at Gaston's and then continuing on to Florida, landing at Lakeland which would give me experience there if I ever want to go to Sun 'n Fun. Of course this is all weather permitting. Oh, and I'm only VFR rated but seems like this time of year may be a good time for this type of trip.

Thanks for any additional thoughts.
 
Thanks for all the replies. To answer the questions from this post. I got my PPL back in February. I fly a 182P. Been flying as much as possible around Denver since getting my certificate and took the ground portion of a Mountain Flying class recently. Still hoping to do a mountain flight with one of the instructors from that class but weather wasn't cooperating that weekend so I've got to revisit that. I've watched a few YouTube videos on landings at Gaston's and it doesn't seem bad if you're prepared. Ultimately, I want to make this trip a week or longer. My Stepmother lives in Tampa, FL, so I'm thinking about attending this weekend at Gaston's and then continuing on to Florida, landing at Lakeland which would give me experience there if I ever want to go to Sun 'n Fun. Of course this is all weather permitting. Oh, and I'm only VFR rated but seems like this time of year may be a good time for this type of trip.

Thanks for any additional thoughts.

If you have the time and the $ plan that trip and GO !!

You will learn more on a long VFR XC than you did in PPL training IMHO

A 182 is a perfect airplane for Gastons. You'll be nervous 1st time in but its really pretty tame and a great place to visit.
 
1) This is just in general but how do you guys plan out something this far in advance? Weather is so unpredictable, at least where I am (Denver). I did my first real cross country back in May, from here to Los Angeles and that worked out but it just seems like planning a cross country months in advance is ripe for having to change or cancel based on weather. Taking time off from work, etc, just to have things fall apart closer to the date of departure just seems like a real issue.
Flying is not for people who make a Plan A and stick to it no matter what. Those people will end up dead.

Flying is for people who make a Plan A, B, C, and D, think through possible issues with plans, and can come up with new plans "on the fly" when conditions change. I like to tell my passengers "Aviation is always an adventure, it's just not always the adventure you planned on." But, I have had some of my very best experiences when all the plans go out the window.

So, flexibility is key. Maybe plan a direct route, and two more routes that are offset north and south in the middle. On a longer trip, you can go well off route in the middle without affecting your total flight time by that much - On a thousand mile trip, you can go 100 miles off course in the middle and it only adds 10 miles to the trip. Also, look at places you might want to stop along the way in all of the above scenarios - Places with cheap fuel, food or courtesy cars, and maybe even local attractions that you're interested in so you can take a break during the hottest/bumpiest parts of the day and/or keep your spouse/pax happy.

Do NOT start looking at 10 day forecasts 10 days before the trip. They're wrong. Start looking at MOS maybe two days before the trip, and consider whether leaving early might be advisable. Never cancel a trip until the day of, and keep in mind that you can always go a day or two later/earlier. Once you get an instrument rating, the number of times you'll have to do that goes down.

FWIW, my first time at Gaston's I was not instrument rated and I did something similar to what you're considering - I flew from Wisconsin, and once the gathering was over continued to Houston to visit my sister. @Kitch is absolutely correct that you'll learn a LOT on long XCs. A 182 is one of the best airplanes for taking a trip like this as a newer pilot (I was also flying a 182 on my first trip to Gaston's!) and spreading your wings a bit. Do it!!!

4) I've never landed on grass. Do I need to practice that a bunch before making this trip?
It's never a bad idea to grab an instructor with experience in something you haven't done the first time you do it.

However, you'll probably realize that landing on grass is a non-event, it's just... Different. Gaston's does have a few bumps in certain places that can give you a bit of a kick into the air or a bit of an unexpected yaw, but like any situation, you simply have to control the airplane and not let it control you. And they have improved it over the years. I wouldn't let the grass runway be the thing that stops you. If nothing else, land at BPK and there'll probably be an instructor there who would be happy to go with you for your first landing at 3M0.

5) What should I expect? Is it just people hanging out telling pilot stories of which I have very few lol, or is there more going on?
I mean, there's definitely other stuff going on - "Normal people" go to Gaston's too - But we're pilots, we're gonna talk about flying a bunch. Don't worry if you don't have a lot of stories yet, just listen to others' stories! Pilots are generally very interesting people, so discussion will often stray into other interesting hobbies, some of which you may share. I've had fun there every time regardless of my experience level at the time.
 
FWIW - my wife, non pilot, really likes these things. Just a good group of non snooty people hanging out. So yeah, we’re pilots, but the nice kind. :cool:
 
FWIW - my wife, non pilot, really likes these things. Just a good group of non snooty people hanging out. So yeah, we’re pilots, but the nice kind. :cool:

I will second this. We weren’t even back one day from Rough River when Mrs Crash asked, “So, when is Gaston’s?”


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