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They used to have a DEA building surrounded by barb wire tall fence on the corner of the airport. They ran military helicopters out of there daily to look for marijuana. Once a week on the north side of the field they would burn the weekly
Both the yellow one and the blue-and-white one are T-34s.I think that’s a yellow WW2 era trainer under the blue plane.
Yes. There’s another one (PHI) that was destroyed there as well.Ah - the destroyed helicopter was an EMS, medical chopper?
News said that debris for a tornado south of us was raining down into Evansville.


I spent many years in Oklahoma and most of my years in hurricane-prone areas. I have to say given the choice between the two I'd take tornados. What they destroy is a pinpoint compared to a hurricane. The disadvantage being, as mentioned above...no warning.
I was watching this storm from some of the chasers' live feeds. It was definitely a scary one.
Except its not about the destruction. You have time to run from a hurricane vs being woken up at 3am from a deep sleep to hail on the window as the "train" rolled by. I'll take any other natural event x10 over a tornado or earthquake.I have to say given the choice between the two I'd take tornados. What they destroy is a pinpoint compared to a hurricane.
That's rough.
People in Florida complain about hurricanes. But at least we get a couple days warning that they're coming. These things arrive with very little warning.
Hurricanes can bring tornadoes with them. Last fall there was an EF3 tornado that caused a lot of death and destruction over a wide area, along with other tornadoes, ahead of Hurricane Milton. The tornado was far more damaging than the winds from the hurricane.I'll go with hurricanes... compare the wind speed of a F5 tornado vs maximum winds ever recorded for a Cat 5 hurricane.
"Ahhh, this is, uh, yeah, uh Centurion 210XX, on a VERY extended downwind, I think"Guess that explains the crowd gatherings downwind.
sure, but EF5/EF6 tornados are extremely rare, even EF4 intensities don't happen all that much. Something like 80-85% of all tornados are EF0-EF3.I'll go with hurricanes... compare the wind speed of a F5 tornado vs maximum winds ever recorded for a Cat 5 hurricane.
More like 99.5%sure, but EF5/EF6 tornados are extremely rare, even EF4 intensities don't happen all that much. Something like 80-85% of all tornados are EF0-EF3.
Yeah I remember they used to hold kolb fly ins there.The London, KY tornado also wiped out the Kolb Aircraft factory.![]()
Knew it was up there in that range, lol.More like 99.5%
89% are EF0-EF1 (including EF Unknown)
10.5% are EF2-EF3
0.5% are EF4-EF5
"People" need to understand the difference: A tornado watch means "conditions are conducive to tornado formation today so keep an eye out." A tornado warning means "THERE IS A TORNADO."Just to add to that, across the midwest we get tornado watches almost every storm and tornado warnings all the time. You get really used to hearing them and nothing actually happening so people stop worrying about it too much. So people start just ignoring it until they start to see the trees bending over outside.
A group of T-34 guys were apparently doing a formation clinic there, anywhere between 3 and 7 airplanes destroyed varying with reports.
Except the idiots that man the tornado alarms around here fire them off even when there isn't even a tornado watch. It doesn't help that every ****ing newscast is "snowmageddon" or "the worst storms we'll see in 100 years" and we get 2" of snow or winds less than that which I've landed in. Every damn front that comes through has the "potential of softball sized hail" and "winds that will uproot large trees" and "seek cover."KUNU got hit too, though not nearly as bad. Several hangars sustained damage, a couple of roofs taken off and a couple of doors buckled in... I couldn't see what the damage to airplanes inside was though.
"People" need to understand the difference: A tornado watch means "conditions are conducive to tornado formation today so keep an eye out." A tornado warning means "THERE IS A TORNADO."
So, when there's a warning I at least look at where the tornado is, and if I'm not between 360 and 090 from the tornado, I don't worry about it.
When I lived in Houston, every time a tropical storm entered the Gulf, local news forecasts begin salivating that it would turn into a hurricane and march up I-45 to destroy Houston after flattening Galveston.Except the idiots that man the tornado alarms around here fire them off even when there isn't even a tornado watch. It doesn't help that every ****ing newscast is "snowmageddon" or "the worst storms we'll see in 100 years" and we get 2" of snow or winds less than that which I've landed in. Every damn front that comes through has the "potential of softball sized hail" and "winds that will uproot large trees" and "seek cover."
Meanwhile the last round where all this was supposed to happen, we had a single twig fall onto the trampoline and I stood out on the porch and watched the rain and listened to the siren wail while the leaves on the trees barely moved for the 90 minutes they had it going off. I pretty much ignore the news and "Storm Team 8."
Except the idiots that man the tornado alarms around here fire them off even when there isn't even a tornado watch. It doesn't help that every ****ing newscast is "snowmageddon" or "the worst storms we'll see in 100 years" and we get 2" of snow or winds less than that which I've landed in. Every damn front that comes through has the "potential of softball sized hail" and "winds that will uproot large trees" and "seek cover."
Meanwhile the last round where all this was supposed to happen, we had a single twig fall onto the trampoline and I stood out on the porch and watched the rain and listened to the siren wail while the leaves on the trees barely moved for the 90 minutes they had it going off. I pretty much ignore the news and "Storm Team 8."
Yeah, all the Chicken Little BS that some places spout is very counterproductive - It's what causes people to ignore evacuation orders and whatnot for truly hazardous weather.Except the idiots that man the tornado alarms around here fire them off even when there isn't even a tornado watch. It doesn't help that every ****ing newscast is "snowmageddon" or "the worst storms we'll see in 100 years" and we get 2" of snow or winds less than that which I've landed in. Every damn front that comes through has the "potential of softball sized hail" and "winds that will uproot large trees" and "seek cover."
Meanwhile the last round where all this was supposed to happen, we had a single twig fall onto the trampoline and I stood out on the porch and watched the rain and listened to the siren wail while the leaves on the trees barely moved for the 90 minutes they had it going off. I pretty much ignore the news and "Storm Team 8."
“Battered” seems to be a popular TWC term right now…I keep expecting to hear that the south will be deep fried.I had heard several years ago that TWC supposedly learned their lesson and was going to back off of the apocalyptic-style of weather forecasting but they continue to use made-up terms that aren't in use by the whole of meteorology.
I "won" a Facebook battle with one of the three local governments whose sirens I can hear at my house for the same issue. Turned out that they were sounding the alarm any time there was an actual or forecast wind gust >60mph. They were going off multiple times a week sometimes. They still refused to only sound them for tornado warnings, but they at least raised it so 80mph or something so that it isn't frequent. I still know that if the only siren is to my north, I can ignore it.Except the idiots that man the tornado alarms around here fire them off even when there isn't even a tornado watch.
Except its not about the destruction. You have time to run from a hurricane vs being woken up at 3am from a deep sleep to hail on the window as the "train" rolled by. I'll take any other natural event x10 over a tornado or earthquake.