BasicMed doc needed--Monterey/Santa Cruz CA area

captainbobwalsh said:
You are a man and I believe Paul Simon could be referring to you.
Let’s start a new thread only referring to laws broken after February 8, 2022.
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You're just trolling us now, as the person with your name hasn't any medical info, thus cannot fly.
 
Half Fast said:
Wrong. THIS is the revocation of your medical:
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Bob, so far you have received two letters from the FAA that revoked your medical. In this thread alone, you have been told by a representative of the FAA ( @Brad Z ), by a senior AME ( @bbchien ), and by an attorney who practices aviation law ( @midlifeflyer ) that you are not eligible for Basic Med. So far, I haven't seen one single person agree with your position.

Is everyone except you wrong?
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Let’s start a new thread using laws broken after February 1,2022.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Again “WHERE DO YOU SEE REVOKED “
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The first sentence literally says they are withdrawing your Authorization for Special Issuance.

And you claim to be legally operating under Basic Med. 14 CFR § 61.23(c)(3) is what authorizes pilots to operate under Basic Med. Here it is in full:

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(c) Operations requiring either a medical certificate or U.S. driver's license.
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(3) A person using a U.S. driver's license to meet the requirements of paragraph (c) while operating under the conditions and limitations of § 61.113(i) must meet the following requirements—

(i) The person must—

(A) Comply with all medical requirements or restrictions associated with his or her U.S. driver's license;

(B) At any point after July 14, 2006, have held a medical certificate issued under part 67 of this chapter;

(C) Complete the medical education course set forth in § 68.3 of this chapter during the 24 calendar months before acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flightcrew member in an operation conducted under § 61.113(i) and retain a certification of course completion in accordance with § 68.3(b)(1) of this chapter;

(D) Receive a comprehensive medical examination from a State-licensed physician during the 48 calendar months before acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flightcrew member of an operation conducted under § 61.113(i) and that medical examination is conducted in accordance with the requirements in part 68 of this chapter; and

(E) If the individual has been diagnosed with any medical condition that may impact the ability of the individual to fly, be under the care and treatment of a State-licensed physician when acting as pilot in command or serving as a required flightcrew member of an operation conducted under § 61.113(i).

(ii) The most recently issued medical certificate—

(A) May include an authorization for special issuance;

(B) May be expired; and

(C) Cannot have been suspended or revoked.

(iii) The most recently issued Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate cannot have been withdrawn; and

(iv) The most recent application for an airman medical certificate submitted to the FAA cannot have been completed and denied.

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It appears that you comply with the requirements of 14 CFR § 61.23(c)(3)(i)(A)-(D).

You claim to comply with 14 CFR § 61.23(c)(3)(ii) based on your assertion that the letter telling you your medical certificate is invalid and you must return it to the FAA isn't a revocation because it doesn't use the word "revoked" even though it satisfies the ordinary definition of revocation.

But you've got no argument whatsoever in any way, shape, or form that you meet the requirement of 14 CFR § 61.23(c)(3)(iii) because the letter explicitly withdraws your "most recently issued Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate."

Note that these requirements do not only apply at the time you claim to have switched to Basic Med, but at all times while operating under Basic Med.

And that's the written law.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Where do you see Special Issuance in Basic Med?
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Right here:
(iii) The most recently issued Authorization for a Special Issuance of a Medical Certificate cannot have been withdrawn; and​

It's one of the conditions for you to be eligible for Basic Med. This has been pointed out to you numerous times.
 
The plain, reasonable interpretation of the FAA letter is that your medical has been withdrawn and it is further spelled out explicitly that you cannot exercise any airman privileges including basic med.

You may feel like you've been wronged. However, if you keep flying without taking the right steps as previously mentioned, you are going to get steamrolled by the FAA and the NTSB and the courts will not help you, or won't help you soon enough.

You are 81 years old and have had cancer. Look at an SSI table. You have 8 years of life left statistically, statistically less since you are a cancer survivor. Spend your time wisely and thoughtfully. The FAA and the courts work quite slowly. Take the most thoughtful and expedient road to reinstating your medical else you run the risk of running out of time...
 
captainbobwalsh said:
So February 10,2022 information determined that I was not eligible for any medical class certificate at this time. In 2021 I got my basic MEDICAL and have all the certificates and CMAC's to prove it. I do not need a special authorization to keep it.
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Correct that you do not need an SI to operate under Basic Med rules, but you do need your most recent SI to not have been withdrawn. Yours was withdrawn.

If you switched to Basic Med in 2021, you should have had another exam last February and taken the course in 2023 and 2015. That still wouldn't make you eligible to operate under Basic Med though because YOU DON'T MEET THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS.

I'm not sure at this point if you're trolling us, but if you're actually serious, maybe you should ask a trusted friend or family member to read the thread with you.
 
Mark K said:
The plain, reasonable interpretation of the FAA letter is that your medical has been withdrawn and it is further spelled out explicitly that you cannot exercise any airman privileges including basic med.

You may feel like you've been wronged. However, if you keep flying without taking the right steps as previously mentioned, you are going to get steamrolled by the FAA and the NTSB and the courts will not help you, or won't help you soon enough.

You are 81 years old and have had cancer. Look at an SSI table. You have 8 years of life left statistically, statistically less since you are a cancer survivor. Spend your time wisely and thoughtfully. The FAA and the courts work quite slowly. Take the most thoughtful and expedient road to reinstating your medical else you run the risk of running out of time...
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Maybe he's counting on dying before they lock him up.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
So February 10,2022 information determined that I was not eligible for any medical class certificate at this time. In 2021 I got my basic MEDICAL and have all the certificates and CMAC's to prove it. I do not need a special authorization to keep it.
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BasicMed is not a medical certificate.

By the way, we're not the ones who need to be convinced that you're right; the FAA is. And if they were convinced, your medical field on the FAA web site would not be blank.
 
I really haven't been paying attention to this thread, but just took a look at some of the last replies. My opinion... HE IS BAITING YOU and just going to keep repeating himself to get a rise out of you.

If not, then it is irrelevant what Regs or Laws or Common Sense you quote to him. In his world he has decided what he wants the world to be, so nothing you say, no matter how logical or correct it may be, will resonate.

So unless you're just posting to get a rise out of him :D, I'd just stop replying.
 
I am in this thread because at the very beginning I stated you should have BOTH a class med and basic med. I believe I was on this site a while back and someone stated that the SI has nothing to do with basic med. The FAA would have to send a letter stating that we don’t think you’re eligible for basic med also. Or maybe the FAA could send a letter and say we are revoking your basic med, but they can’t.
The pilot that was supposedly using my badge to access the Nantucket Airport was working for that airport manager at the time. They knew he didn’t have a license to fly. They waited until he got the derelict airport airplane off the airport on March 24. let’s go let’s go.
midlifeflyer said:
You'll notice he's never said he is currently flying as PIC or as required crew. Just making up and arguing his own rules but that's about it.
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I have been flying PIC for the past three years on my BASIC MED. I probably have put more than 100 hours doing instruction and privately with friends. I am not dying and we know what the statistics say that that’s what my AOPA Lawyer suggested to the Airport Commission instead of getting me a hearing on the four bogus allegations. He did not know about basic med and that is the reason I got the preliminary injunction. When I’m stopped in my airplane by FAA I will deal with them.
I am not senile, far from it.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
I am in this thread because at the very beginning I stated you should have BOTH a class med and basic med. I believe I was on this site a while back and someone stated that the SI has nothing to do with basic med. The FAA would have to send a letter stating that we don’t think you’re eligible for basic med also. Or maybe the FAA could send a letter and say we are revoking your basic med, but they can’t.
The pilot that was supposedly using my badge to access the Nantucket Airport was working for that airport manager at the time. They knew he didn’t have a license to fly. They waited until he got the derelict airport airplane off the airport on March 24. let’s go let’s go.

I have been flying PIC for the past three years on my BASIC MED. I probably have put more than 100 hours doing instruction and privately with friends. I am not dying and we know what the statistics say that that’s what my AOPA Lawyer suggested to the Airport Commission instead of getting me a hearing on the four bogus allegations. He did not know about basic med and that is the reason I got the preliminary injunction. When I’m stopped in my airplane by FAA I will deal with them.
I am not senile, far from it.
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The, let’s go let’s go was my brother telling me we had to go pick up a pizza. When he got the airplane off Nantucket, they didn’t need him anymore so contacted the DEA and the FAA to tell him that he was flying. On April 7, they called the DEA and told them he was leaving Nantucket in my airplane. They met him in Rutland and they arrested him for flying. The next day the DEA seized my airplane. He spent a year and a half in jail. He had a plastic ATP and if you checked his status, it would’ve said no medical information of available, just like mine. His was revoked, mine has never been revoked.
 
Well maybe this is to the point. From Feb 10, 2022.
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Bob the enabling law to Basic sez your medical authorization cannot have been withdrawn. Yours was withdrawn on April 12, 2022 as you published. See 3(e) below
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And here is where they withdrew it (pril 12, 2022):
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"Inability to comprehend simple regulations" would apply here....besides, you didn't ever complete getting a Basic in 2022 anyhow, as you never "took the course and printed the graduation certificate", which is required. How is that known? That's because the federal database doesn't ever show you had one, which is why you did not get the BASIC MED WARNING LETTER. You do not have a basic med, you can't get a basic med and I have to say, given your posts here, perhaps the system worked the way is was supposed to work.

I'm sad for you.....
 
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captainbobwalsh said:
I have been flying PIC for the past three years on my BASIC MED. I probably have put more than 100 hours doing instruction and privately with friends. I am not dying and we know what the statistics say that that’s what my AOPA Lawyer suggested to the Airport Commission instead of getting me a hearing on the four bogus allegations. He did not know about basic med and that is the reason I got the preliminary injunction. When I’m stopped in my airplane by FAA I will deal with them.
I am not senile, far from it.
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Why doesn't your BasicMed qualification show up on your FAA website listing?
 
Because he never signed off on the course, and printed his graduation certificate. That is the ONLY way he would not have gotten the Basic Med Challenge letter, and still be able to claim that his doctor signed him off..

Bob please don't hurt anyone.
 
bbchien said:
Because he never signed off on the course, and printed his graduation certificate. That is the ONLY way he would not have gotten the Basic Med Challenge letter, and still be able to claim that his doctor signed him off..

Bob please don't hurt anyone.
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He claims he did the course, so I was wondering if the unresolved withdrawal of his SI would be sufficient by itself to cause his BasicMed information to not show up.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Because my medical information is none of your business according to HIPAA.
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Now I know you are baiting us. You are the best of baiters*, but I'm ignoring this from now on.

*I didn't take the obvious joke, but everyone thought of it, and the UK version of it, as used in Ted Lasso.
 
M20K said:
I really haven't been paying attention to this thread, but just took a look at some of the last replies. My opinion... HE IS BAITING YOU and just going to keep repeating himself to get a rise out of you.

If not, then it is irrelevant what Regs or Laws or Common Sense you quote to him. In his world he has decided what he wants the world to be, so nothing you say, no matter how logical or correct it may be, will resonate.

So unless you're just posting to get a rise out of him :D, I'd just stop replying.
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Kenny Phillips said:
Now I know you are baiting us. You are the best of baiters*, but I'm ignoring this from now on.

*I didn't take the obvious joke, but everyone thought of it, and the UK version of it, as used in Ted Lasso.
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Thanks for listening and yes, it’s just like Ted Lasso. They didn’t BELIEVE he could do it either.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Thanks for listening and yes, it’s just like Ted Lasso. They didn’t BELIEVE he could do it either.
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I am not baiting anyone. In the past eight years this is the only place that anybody would listen to me. I went to court and I did get discovery. I have all their emails and can prove everything I’m saying. I’m only looking for serious responders to the information I presents. I can send links to anything you question.
 
bbchien said:
Because he never signed off on the course, and printed his graduation certificate. That is the ONLY way he would not have gotten the Basic Med Challenge letter, and still be able to claim that his doctor signed him off..

Bob please don't hurt anyone.
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I never got the challenge letter. Someone showed me a sample.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
...this is the only place that anybody would listen to me.
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Bob, is there any place you will listen to anyone else? Because no one here agrees with your position.

We have listened, and many of us have explained and demonstrated over and over why you are not permitted to use Basic Med. You seem unwilling to pay attention to anyone who disagrees with you, which is pretty much everyone.
 
bbchien said:
Well maybe this is to the point. From Feb 10, 2022.
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Bob the enabling law to Basic sez your medical authorization cannot have been withdrawn. Yours was withdrawn on April 12, 2022 as you published. See 3(e) below
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And here is where they withdrew it (pril 12, 2022):
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"Inability to comprehend simple regulations" would apply here....besides, you didn't ever complete getting a Basic in 2022 anyhow, as you never "took the course and printed the graduation certificate", which is required. How is that known? That's because the federal database doesn't ever show you had one, which is why you did not get the BASIC MED WARNING LETTER. You do not have a basic med, you can't get a basic med and I have to say, given your posts here, perhaps the system worked the way is was supposed to work.

I'm sad for you.....
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Look at the dates. The February 10 letter had page 2 covered by their criminal lawyer 1, to make the judge think that letter came on February 10.It worked for you!
 
Half Fast said:
Bob, is there any place you will listen to anyone else? Because no one here agrees with your position.

We have listened, and many of us have explained and demonstrated over and over why you are not permitted to use Basic Med. You seem unwilling to pay attention to anyone who disagrees with you, which is pretty much everyone.
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YET!
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Look at the dates. The February 10 letter had page 2 covered by their criminal lawyer 1, to make the judge think that letter came on February 10.It worked for you!
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@ FAA the dates don't matter. the FACT is they did indeed withdraw your authorization and was not succeeded by a reeauthorization.

AND you did not indeed actually have a basic med, course graduation certificate (not that timing matters one whit, which is why you didn't get the challenge letter).
 
bbchien said:
@ FAA the dates don't matter. the FACT is they did indeed withdraw your authorization and was not succeeded by a reeauthorization.

AND you did not indeed actually have a basic med, course graduation certificate (not that timing matters one whit, which is why you didn't get the challenge letter).
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Who actually puts that information into the system. The FAA. They must avoid violating any HIPAA laws, they do not post any records that would violate them.
 
captainbobwalsh said:
Who actually puts that information into the system. The FAA. They must avoid violating any HIPAA laws, they do not post any records that would violate them.
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It's automated Bob. You may have a doc's signoff but it doesn't get to the system until you take the course and upload the doc's credentials, and print the graduation certificate. Heck you've published everything else- wnat to publsih your Basic Med Graduation certificate- (that's what you have to have to claim you have (of record) a BASIC med).

But none of that matters. They did indeed withdraw your authorization. No basic is any good, even if you had one. whether obtained before or after such a withdrawal.
 
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