2025 - KICKOFF!

JOhnH said:
It seems that every time Tech has broken in to the top 25 for the past few decades, they started a losing streak the next week.

I just want them to keep winning, and BEAT GEORGIA!
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This year it was breaking into the top 10 that they started their downward spiral, but it is the same theme I have observed for decades.
 
JOhnH said:
This year it was breaking into the top 10 that they started their downward spiral, but it is the same theme I have observed for decades.
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The theme goes to a lack of depth and talent. Georgia Tech alumni are never going to make the donations to be competitive with the football factories in NIL, facilities, or staffing. The fans of those schools place a much higher value on having an elite football program than Tech alumni do and their money follows their priorities. There are tons of fans at the football factories whose entire lifestyle is built around following their football program. Me? I'd rather play with airplanes and take nice vacations than donate that money so Tech can have a better football program.
 
kyleb said:
...Georgia Tech alumni are never going to make the donations to be competitive with the football...
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BC is the same. BC is usually towards the top when it comes to graduating athletes. That's a stat I'm proud of.
 
“Theoretically” the House Settlement will level the field by setting a “Salary Cap” of $20 Million for a school’s athletes’ NIL. This is to be “Policed” by some outside group. Private Schools like The University of Spoiled Children, Stanford etc are making noises about not signing up along with a few pubic Football Factories.

IMNSHO, this is the last hope from college athletics unless Congress does something (fat chance) or the networks realize the their cash cows of football and basketball will be down to a few teams anybody will want to watch.
 
Mahneuvers said:
BC is usually towards the top when it comes to graduating athletes. That's a stat I'm proud of.
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Same at Tech. Then we look 50 miles NE and see UGA where the QB on their most recent national championship team was in college for 7 years and didn't graduate.
 
X3 Skier said:
“Theoretically” the House Settlement will level the field by setting a “Salary Cap” of $20 Million for a school’s athletes’ NIL. This is to be “Policed” by some outside group. Private Schools like The University of Spoiled Children, Stanford etc are making noises about not signing up along with a few pubic Football Factories.

IMNSHO, this is the last hope from college athletics unless Congress does something (fat chance) or the networks realize the their cash cows of football and basketball will be down to a few teams anybody will want to watch.
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Won't matter. It'll just revert to the days of under the table payments.
 
kyleb said:
The theme goes to a lack of depth and talent. Georgia Tech alumni are never going to make the donations to be competitive with the football factories in NIL, facilities, or staffing. The fans of those schools place a much higher value on having an elite football program than Tech alumni do and their money follows their priorities. There are tons of fans at the football factories whose entire lifestyle is built around following their football program. Me? I'd rather play with airplanes and take nice vacations than donate that money so Tech can have a better football program.
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The venn diagram of men with elite athletic skills and top 10% academic potential will always be a limitation for schools like GT, Stanford, Notre Dame, Vandy, etc.

Being an alumni of two highly selective schools, I long since realized that I was going to have to adopt a football factory if I wanted to have someone to root for in the playoffs.

My son transferred to UGA this year, and Kirby Smart is a class act, so I'm good.
 
kyleb said:
Won't matter. It'll just revert to the days of under the table payments.
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Hence the “Theoretically”. The only brake I see is now every “Scholar Athlete “ can have their hand in the pie and the books for the $20 Million are open for inspection. The suitcase of cash is always there.
 
X3 Skier said:
Hence the “Theoretically”. The only brake I see is now every “Scholar Athlete “ can have their hand in the pie and the books for the $20 Million are open for inspection. The suitcase of cash is always there.
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And now that we've established the principle that paying student athletes is OK, it takes away the moral barrier of circumventing some artificial limit with creative arrangements.
 
kyleb said:
Same at Tech. Then we look 50 miles NE and see UGA where the QB on their most recent national championship team was in college for 7 years and didn't graduate.
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Nobody spends hours on a Saturday watching guys study at the library. :)
 
Ed Haywood said:
And now that we've established the principle that paying student athletes is OK, it takes away the moral barrier of circumventing some artificial limit with creative arrangements.
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I’d feel better about it if we had a rule tying it back to scholastics. Let’s have college football instead of college football. We need a return to true student athletes instead of ersatz professionals.

I’d like to see a rule whereby the player is free to earn all the market will bear, but if he fails to graduate within one year of the end of eligibility then he forfeits all his earnings to the school and the school is required to use the money to fund academic scholarships.
 
Ed Haywood said:
... I long since realized that I was going to have to adopt a football factory if I wanted to have someone to root for in the playoffs.
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The beauty of being a Tech fan is that without changing my allegiance, I will have a dozen teams to root against in this year's playoffs. So I'll come out ahead 11/1 at the end. ;-)
 
kyleb said:
The beauty of being a Tech fan is that without changing my allegiance, I will have a dozen teams to root against in this year's playoffs. So I'll come out ahead 11/1 at the end. ;-)
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I’ll root for any team playing (preferably beating) U(sic)GA.
 
kyleb said:
Same at Tech. Then we look 50 miles NE and see UGA where the QB on their most recent national championship team was in college for 7 years and didn't graduate.
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I have to admit that is pretty ridiculous. You would think Bennett should have accumulated enough credits by accident along the way.
 
Dave Theisen said:
I have to admit that is pretty ridiculous. You would think Bennett should have accumulated enough credits by accident along the way.
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Have you looked at the NCAA’s academic requirements? They’re ridiculously low, and don’t require enough progress to ensure graduation.
 
kyleb said:
Same at Tech. Then we look 50 miles NE and see UGA where the QB on their most recent national championship team was in college for 7 years and didn't graduate.
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I took 8 years to graduate from Tech. But I had no scholarship, no grant and no loans. And I graduated with the equivalent of 4 years work experience, not counting work during high school.
I'm still not sure if that was the best way, but for me, it was pretty much the only way.
 
JOhnH said:
I took 8 years to graduate from Tech. But I had no scholarship, no grant and no loans. And I graduated with the equivalent of 4 years work experience, not counting work during high school.
I'm still not sure if that was the best way, but for me, it was pretty much the only way.
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I took two years, which was sorta, uh, exciting. Graduated in 1984, and I’m still tired.
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2 for 4 this weekend, although the best we could do was 3 for 4 with both Vanderbilt and Tennessee being family teams.
 
JOhnH said:
Ok, I"m impressed.
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Well, I have to confess to the whole story. Samford had a 3/2 dual-degree program with GT, whereby 3 years at Samford plus 2 at GT got me a Samford math degree and a GT engineering degree at the completion of the program.

The sticky part was that I was the first person to do it, and nobody had really refined the details. My two years at Tech were almost entirely technical courses, and I had to take some of the engineering classes without having the pre-req or simultaneously with the pre-req. You know what Ma Tech is like, so you can imagine how much fun that was. I worked my tail off to get it done in two years, but I made it.
 
Half Fast said:
Well, I have to confess to the whole story. Samford had a 3/2 dual-degree program with GT, whereby 3 years at Samford plus 2 at GT got me a Samford math degree and a GT engineering degree at the completion of the program.
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My SiL is finishing up a 3/2 program this year Covenant College and GT. He will graduate with both a physics and civil engineering degree.
 
Bill said:
My SiL is finishing up a 3/2 program this year Covenant College and GT. He will graduate with both a physics and civil engineering degree.
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Did he decide where he's going to work? Wasn't your daughter graduating this fall, too?
 
She’s thinking that, but also considering going to GT for chemical engineering. She really likes chemistry.
 
It's funny - I went the other way with it. I would have stayed in college forever if they would've let me. I graduated with 175 hours, and they only allowed that because I had two degrees. Didn't even cash in any (other than English IIRC) AP credit because it would have meant less time in school. So much fun!
 
kayoh190 said:
It's funny - I went the other way with it. I would have stayed in college forever if they would've let me. I graduated with 175 hours, and they only allowed that because I had two degrees. Didn't even cash in any (other than English IIRC) AP credit because it would have meant less time in school. So much fun!
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You would probably like George P. Burdell. He’s been taking classes at Ga Tech since the 1920s.
 
Half Fast said:
You would probably like George P. Burdell. He’s been taking classes at Ga Tech since the 1920s.
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Sounds like my kinda guy! Guess I had to grow up at some point, though.

Well, on paper at least. ;)
 
Three for three for us this weekend. Kent State knocked off Northern Illinois to bring their conference record to 4 and 4. Considering that they went 1 and 23 the previous two seasons and their head coach was fired and accused of embezzlement, that's quite a comeback. Hopefully Kent won't schedule three top 25 teams next year. Penn State squeaked out a win at Rutgers, and Vanderbilt stomped the Vols at their house.

I did watch some of the Georgia-Georgia Tech game. I was very impressed how Teach held Georgia in check and kept the game close.
 
Ed Haywood said:
The venn diagram of men with elite athletic skills and top 10% academic potential will always be a limitation for schools like GT, Stanford, Notre Dame, Vandy, etc.

Being an alumni of two highly selective schools, I long since realized that I was going to have to adopt a football factory if I wanted to have someone to root for in the playoffs.

My son transferred to UGA this year, and Kirby Smart is a class act, so I'm good.
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You mean the class act that signaled for a timeout and then lied to the ref that he was just clapping so that they didn't get charged a timeout?
 
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