Well it was a good (almost) 10 years.

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by EdFred, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Juliet Hotel

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    He's said he doesn't have a problem with the gub'ment knowing where he lives or when he's flying. What he has a problem with is me knowing where he lives and when he's flying. Obviously I can't be trusted enough to have access to that kind of info.
     
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    It’s april 10th, right?
     
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    You were raised catholic too ?!?!
     
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    Will you continue to lock your hangar door?
     
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    Think disabling ADSB or better yet not installing one would have been another choice ?
     
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    We had license plates on our bicycles in Davis, CA back in the late 1950s. I'm sure they still have them today.
     
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    Can you register your hangar as the address of the LLC with the FAA?

    Asking for a friend.

    Cheers
     
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    At least in Texas, a basic forwarder is not sufficient for a company (LLC or corporation). A registered agent is required, who is willing to sign 401-A for you. Well, I'm sure businesses exist that do that, just not the one you linked.
     
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    So let me get this right. The worst possible thing that could happen to you for a low flying violation would be that the FAA could suspend your ticket for 90 days. To avoid that possibility, you choose not to fly at all.

    You do know that you can maintain some anonymity towards the casual observer by owning the plane through a trust or LLC ? Your nosy hobbyist would see 'Wells Fargo Bank N.A. SLC Trustee'. Sure, with subpoenas and a PI, the crazy hobbyist would be able to track down the actual owner, but for your primary fear of someone knowing that you happen to fly over their house, a trust registration would work
     
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    I agree in principal w/ the OP.. but maybe not to the same degree. The alternative? SkyBeacon... and turn off your nav lights when you want to be out of the system.
     
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    This reminds me that people used to ask if I flew for Wells Fargo.
     
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    Who knew there was so much paranoia in aviation? If someone is smart enough to use ADS-B Exchange, then they are smart enough to use another method to figure out when you aren't home, and rob or rape you then. Well, they probably won't rape you in your home if you aren't home, but you get the idea.
     
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    What do you plan to do about the spy satellite in geosynchronous orbit over your home?
     
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    So,worried about knowing whether your home or not. Must be a load of gold, or dead hookers you want hidden.
     
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    I'm with the "to each his own" camp.

    I don't agree with Ed's decision... but turns out that's why it's his decision and not mine. Ive come to terms with the fact that I have no privacy. But I measure that against the likelihood of people using that information to do me harm.

    But my risk analysis is different than anyone else's. Live and let sell their airplane to hide from ADS-B.
     
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    Are y'all trying to chase EdFred away, or is there some point to all of this?
     
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    The difference is in the ease of doing it, and it's not really comparable. If the government mandated that all cars had to have a radio transmitter broadcasting their speed, plate number, and position for a 50 mile radius then your analogy might work.

    Even if private citizens decided to set up this plate reader system (which would be several orders of magnitude more difficult due to the millions of cameras that would be needed, the processing for the optical recognition etc), do you honestly think it would last any time at all before causing massive outcry and being shut down by the government due to privacy issues? It would also need to be paired with a government supplied database of every licence plate with the owner's name and address.

    The two are not comparable at all.
     
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    We all know he’s right to be upset and there’s nothing we can do about it. But it is sort of cutting off your nose to spite your face. He’s giving up a freedom completely because a part of it was taken away. That’ll show em!

    I think all of us want to do SOMETHING about this, but most aren’t giving up flying just because there’s a facet that sucks.
     
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    Either he'll chase himself away, or he is getting great amusement from the negative attention, ie what a troll enjoys.
     
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    That Ed, he’s such a curmudgeon.
     
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    I suspect there is more to the story than what he's revealing. Obviously he doesn't want to say what that is and he doesn't have to. But 'I'm so ****ed at the gub'ment that I'm selling the damn'd plane' is well, to be blunt, crazy talk. And I don't think he's crazy.



    Who started the thread? He did. Who stated their reason for selling in that thread? He did. If he didn't want it discussed or commented on, there was an EXTREMELY simple option available to him.
     
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    Oh please. Ed's been around since the beginning. We can't permanently get rid of him if we try.
     
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    Dayum, there's a sad statement if there ever was one.
     
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    Someone ought to call aeromedical and drop a dime on a mentally unstable man holding a medical certificate...
     
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    Call aeromedical and make a phone call?o_O
     
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    One might argue that we’re the insane ones, dropping the kind of money we do to keep our old flivers in the air...
     
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    Or if they don't have change, they could use the ATM machine. ;)
     
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    @Brad Z Not here in New York City! Hah! Quote below from the New York Times:

    Incompetent Dolts!
     
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    Yeah, I take a look at other items I have on the list and note that I could accomplish ALL of them pretty easily financially if it weren't for aviation.
     
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    Well...I mean...technically speaking, you could.

    #BanHammer
     
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    It's the #BanDozer.

    Really ought to change the avatar.
     
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    Well to be fair he's flight instructing now, and you don't need a medical for that so.....;):D

    People keep going to the freedom angle, but he specifically said he's still going flying, so that doesn't really apply.

    I joked about the gear AD and he said it wasn't that (mx costs), meaning it wasn't eating him out of house and home. But he also said he's got access to airplanes, and still intends to fly. My guess is, having subsidized access to airplanes via the CFI gig made the sole ownership thing less attractive on the cost and yearly use front. Not the first nor the last CFI to approach their clientele as a de facto non-equity partnership with "first right of refusal" access to airplanes for essentially just gas money. Skipping the ADSB quipping mandate costs was probably just a twofer. But I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt.
     
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    How do we even know his name is Ed? If he doesnt want his personal life out there, do you think he would sign up with his real name? Maybe he is a Greg, or a Jeff?
     
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    Maybe he’s a SHE!


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    I have to figure he has a big pile guns, ammunition and gold in that house. What other legal things do you get all that paranoid about?
     
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    Ask Ed. He started it. I'm not sure what it's about. How do we know that he didn't just sell his plane to his own corporation with a different address?
     
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    And that’s what I get for trolling as I wake up.
     
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    Ed has stated that he overflies Canada and thus needs 1090.

    I will admit, I'm a bit annoyed that I didn't think to keep the GTX 327 in the plane when we got the GTX 345. Plenty of planes have dual transponders, so nothing wrong with one that squawks everything and one that's only mode C, right?

    From the government perspective, they kind of are. There are plenty of plate readers out there, and they know where you live...

    Hah! There, you're wrong. There are cameras EVERYWHERE.

    It's Ed. Drama is a standard feature. ;)

    And here might be part of the motivation. Ed sold his first plane (a Cherokee 180) in early 2008. Later that year, the market tanked, and the following year he bought the Comanche 250, IIRC for a lot less money than he brought in with the sale of the Cherokee. It's not a bad way to make a pretty nice chunk of change, if you can stand being without an airplane for a couple of years.

    So, in a couple of years, after the market tanks again, @SCCutler will be sending links to @EdFred and he'll come here to announce his purchase of a 1955 C310. Or a 1964 King Air 90...

    Congratulations @el con on your new Comanche! :D

    Me too... But all my money is tied up in my airplane! :eek: It's probably worse that people know I'm *not* flying than they know I am flying!
     
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    Paranoia is a common thing in these parts. I know quite a few who are armed to the teeth because they're pretty sure bad hombre's or the gub'ment or both are going to come storming through their door hell bent on killing them for sport at any moment. Not sure what causes it but I see it a lot. I think its something in the water.