Well it was a good (almost) 10 years.

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by EdFred, Apr 10, 2019.

  1. Ted DuPuis

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    You are a very polite soul, Tim.

    I am... well... you know me well enough. ;)
     
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    That would make him my alter Ego?
     
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    It's not even that complicated, I can't find the exact algorithm, but it's basically "sequentially assigned from A00001 for N1 to ADF669 for N999ZZ", plenty of programs have implemented it. No need to download the database unless you want more detail than the N number.
     
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    And also to sites like this, who sell subscriptions to amazon dash buttons that automatically file noise complaints linked to the nearest plane with ADS-B, regardless of whether or not it is the correct one. :mad2:

    Hear a noisy plane, just push a button! But hey, it's not going to grow into a problem, right?

    https://airnoise.io/help/overview


    Does it cost anything to use Airnoise.io?


    You can sign-up for free and start filing noise complaints immediately to help make your voice heard over the roar and help your community seek some relief. You can file up to 30 complaints each month with a free account.

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    But if you live under one of the new NextGen flight paths and the noise is really impacting your peace and quiet, you should consider subscribing to an unlimited, paid account and also getting an Airnoise button. You can file a complaint in one second with the button, and it will last for about 2,000 clicks.

    All paid Airnoise accounts come with a free 30-day trial so you can try the service to see if it works for you. You can cancel your account at any time on the Billing tab of your account settings.


    How does Airnoise.io work?
    When you sign-up for an account you provide your address so we can pinpoint your location relative to the air traffic near you. When you kickoff the complaint process, Airnoise uses publicly-available ADS-B data to search for aircraft near you.

    Not all aircraft broadcast the ADS-B signal, but most commercial and business aircraft do, so we can find the aircraft nearest to you well over 95% of the time.

    Some small general aviation airplanes and helicopters are equipped with ADS-B, but the FAA requires that all aircraft flying in US airspace be equipped by January 2020. We also use other publicly-available data sources to try to locate aircraft near you if the ADS-B system doesn't find anything.


    Why use Airnoise.io instead of the local airport authority web site?
    Have you tried filing a noise complaint with an "official" site? Most of them are cumbersome and time-consuming to use and require you to fill out a web page and all the details of the disturbance every single time. Many enforce a 15- to 30-minute delay between an aircraft flying over your house and when you can file a noise complaint against it.

    Some sites actually store your information so you don't have to re-enter it every time, but you still have to login and provide some information about what bothered you.

    We don't put you through that — just click the button, send a text, or tap the icon on the web site and you're done. We're also going to release iOS and Android apps soon to make it even easier.
     
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    Hopefully this will solve itself, after an airport gets 300,000 complaints in a year on 200 operations they'll start requiring them to be hand written and submitted by carrier pigeon to be counted. Or they'll simply count them and produce a yearly report and nothing else.
     
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    Just in case anyone cares, I’m not at home.
     
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    Yikes. I see Clell each month at our EAA chapter meeting.
     
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    I know you’re not....

    :)
     
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    Whoops. So much for pulling up a random flight path....

    You can tell him to thank his friends at the FAA for enabling sites like that to vacuum up his ads-b pings and publish his personal data even when flight services are not being requested.

    (I hope no one nearby had an Airnoise.io button)
     
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    All it takes is one deputy with a plate reader to drive by. On his way to somewhere else, and bam! They know where you are.
     
  15. EdFred

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    no front plates in michigan. He would have to be following me. Also what website do you go to that shows what the plate Rreader from the squad car is showing real time?
     
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    Anyone see irony in the fact that "Airnoise.io" has a private URL registration?

    I think the proper play is, the very first time someone has a wrongful noise complaint imposed upon them as a result of these silly people, a suit for defamation gets filed.

    Lots of discovery.

    Stupid idea. Stupid ideas deserve to be treated as such.

     
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    Here are the culprits. 700 sales of a $24 button have generated 1.1 million ads-b noise complaints as of Dec '18. :eek:

    https://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-airplane-noise-20181231-story.html


    Deckert says she firmly believes complaining makes a difference, so she tries to do her part each day. When her Airnoise button arrived in August, she hooked it onto a red, white and blue lanyard so she’d have it with her all the time — in the morning when she’s making breakfast, in the afternoon while she’s puttering around the house and in the evening when she’s watching her favorite mystery shows on PBS. The button has clearly gotten a lot of use: The plastic coating is partially peeled off. A few weeks ago, the battery gave out. So for now, she’s using her iPad to file complaints.

    “People can try to discredit me, but I don’t worry about that,” she said. She paused and remembered the day she filed her first complaint with the Airnoise button.

    “It felt so good,” she said. “It’s highly, highly therapeutic. It makes you feel like you can make a difference.”
     
  18. Skyrys62

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    We hope the lights aren't on then...
     
  19. flyingcheesehead

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    That's an AVERAGE of 1,571 complaints PER BUTTON! Sheesh. Move away...
     
  20. ElPaso Pilot

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    And, with ads-b out not yet mandatory, a very large number of the pilots associated with filed noise complaints were not the planes that generated the button push -- just the ads-b out ping that was nearest to the button pusher's location.

    And linked to the public database with our names, addresses, airplanes, flight paths, and N-numbers.

    Nice job, FAA.
     
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    Not my name.
    Not my address, and it's a PO box.
    Flight path: Well, keeps me from intersecting with anyone else's anyway.
    N number: Uh oh, they might find me here! :eek:

    It is silly that ADS-B wasn't encrypted at all, but we are the country of the lowest bidder - The military doesn't even encrypt the video feeds from their drones! <facepalm>
     
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