Controllers...what are your pet peeves?

Discussion in 'Change to my Frequency...' started by Chrisj13, Sep 24, 2016.

  1. Palmpilot

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    Thread drift: It's a tradition!
     
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    "Approach, what's our sequence?"

    Or

    "Approach, how long is the final?"

    Dude, just tell me you're minimum fuel already.

    That, and not paying attention on frequency.


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    if you want to know what to call a tower- look on the approach plate - THAT is the official name.
     
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    Too bad VFR pilots will never see those . . .
     
  5. Palmpilot

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    I think you can also find it in the Chart Supplement (A/FD). Buchanan Field (CCR) at Concord, CA is an example.
     
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    It's a bit hidden, but it's there. Any named airport can cause confusion. Perhaps a better example is Sac Intl (KSMH) which has Capitol Tower.
     
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    Just be on the correct frequency and use "tower", good enough, works, lasts long time.
     
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    Exactly. Heck, sometimes my dumb ass can't remember whether I was switched to center or another departure frequency, in which case a good "Mornin' Atlanta, xxxxx...." works great.

    You people work too hard! :p
     
  9. Palmpilot

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    I see what you mean. Although the airport name is at the top of the Chart Supplement entry and at the top of the approach plates, you have to look for the place where it gives the tower's call sign, as in "Concord Tower" in the case of Buchanan Field (CCR), or "Capitol Tower" in the case of Sacramento International (SMF). Even better would be if they had the tower names on the VFR charts, though.
     
  10. roncachamp

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    They're free online. Anybody can see them.
     
  11. Joshuajayg

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    "Will never" see them, not "can't" ever see them.

    When I was a VFR only pilot I never looked at an approach plate because I didn't have a use for one. Most other VFR pilots are the same way.
     
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    yup....where would ya even start? :eek:
     
  13. Palmpilot

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    The Chart Supplement (A/FD), on the other hand, is something that VFR pilots are expected to know about, or at least it was when I got my PPL training.
     
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    The fact that they can see them makes the statement incorrect.

    When I was a VFR only pilot I looked at approach plates because I was curious. Many other VFR pilots are the same way.
     
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    Well, not no one... transients look at the approach chart, and... right at the top, it says "Sacramento Mather"

    Paul
     
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    Yep. I've been there, too. DC8 MCC-Travis!
     
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    its not like they're double secret - you can always create a route on VFRmaps.com or Skyvector and pull up the airport diagram.

    You're telling me that pilots fly into towered airports they may not be familiar with [which is why they don't know the name] and never look at an airport diagram for likely taxi routes and FBO locations? That's a stretch for moi . . .
     
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    Approach plate, not the airport diagram.
     
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    The FAA airport diagrams I've looked at all have the name of the tower on them.
     
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    I have not compared the two. You very well may be correct on all accounts but the original reference was to approach plates.
     
  22. roncachamp

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    Airport diagrams are free online. Anybody can see them.
     
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    VFR sectionals are free online, anyone can see them.
     
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    99% of the time I just say tower to avoid any confusion.
     
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    As a VFR pilot; as part of my flight planning I use AirNav in order to print out the taxiway map for towered airports. I find it easier than trying to manage the Chart Supplement Guide when given complex taxi instructions.

    In communications it shows how to address the tower.

    If it is a busy towered field I don’t have to listen for very long to hear what the tower is called.

    I feel there is value in using the correct name so ATC knows I know who I am talking too.
     
  26. roncachamp

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    IFR charts are free online, anyone can see them.
     
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    Everything is free online! :)
     
  28. Palmpilot

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    The point some of us are trying to make is that approach plates are not the only place to find out what name to use when a pilot calls up a control tower.
     
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    Unfortunately, in cases where the tower name differs from the airport name, VFR sectionals don't tell us what the tower name is, at least not at the airports I've checked.
     
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    I was just parroting @roncachamp.
     
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    Flatterer.
     
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    Don't bother, he won't recognize what you're doing. He just enjoys stirring the pot and mocking people.
     
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    I realize that. I put him in the same category as Tom-D.
     
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    I told y'all, just say "tower" when ya check in, and they'll reply with what they're called.

    "Tower, Bonanza 12345 for landing"
    "Bonanza 12345, Bluemoon Tower, cleared to land runway 38, wind 370 at 6"

    I was a controller so know this works, plus a pelot.
     
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    I checked in with "Traffic" once and Tower answered, with the correct name.

    It sure beats the reverse. I landed at San Carlos once 30 minutes after opening. Got handed off to Tower and got ... nothing.
     
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    This thread might as well be one of the pet peeves of the controllers

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    Do you turn base over the tree stand..?? Touching down right at delta to make charlie in the Navajo was always fun for me.
     
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    Touch down at delta and exit at charlie or B-2 for west parking..:)
     
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    As I said on page 2:

    As a controller, one of my pet peeves is when someone starts a thread called, "controllers...what are your pet peeves?" and it morphs into a bunch of pilots talking about their pet peeves.
     
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