Sorry, poor wording. I believe you were saying that even when someone (wastes the air time
) and sends off a "last call" THEY are still a potential danger. But you can't talk to them.
It's described in the AIM:
Use | Frequency |
Airports without an operating control tower. | 122.700 122.725 122.800 122.975 123.000 123.050 123.075 |
(MULTICOM FREQUENCY) Activities of a temporary, seasonal, emergency nature or search and rescue, as well as, airports with no tower, FSS, or UNICOM. | 122.900 |
(MULTICOM FREQUENCY) Forestry management and fire suppression, fish and game management and protection, and environmental monitoring and protection. | 122.925 |
Airports with a control tower or FSS on airport. | 122.950 |
Sorry, poor wording. I believe you were saying that even when someone (wastes the air time
Totally agree. And still think it is a phrase that just shouldn't be uttered as it helps no one. And I've had people on the Freq. that you still can't talk to as they don't listen. They just would blindly transmit.
For fun, say it but then remain on frequency so you can hear us mock you on the air. Our hypocrisy knows no bounds.
At the end of the day, being the CTAF police is one of the few hills I’ve never even considered dying on.
Right, but in all the years I've been flying the only way I've ever seen 122.9 used is as just another CTAF. Never seen it used for "activities of a temporary, seasonal, emergency nature or search and rescue".
Not really. On the rare occasions I use it, it's generally because I'm departing towards nearby airspace and I won't have time to make another call. "Morey traffic, Mooney departing 10 eastbound, last call." I'm still going to monitor the frequency throughout the takeoff roll. It's a short way of saying "Hey, if you need to say something to me, say it now because I'm not gonna be here much longer."
I'm gooing to say it blasting out of EWR next flight; annoy both NY and the spam cans. It's a win win
“This frequency.”
I still don't see it. In my mind, I'm not thinking "Hm, I need to tell the Mooney something so I will wait a couple minutes before I say it."
At this point, I just enjoy reading the silly justifications. It's just hard to say, "I've been doing this, but it really doesn't add anything" about something you've been doing for years and probably couldn't stop unless you tried really, really, really hard.
i never understood why so many get so upset at it. lack of professionalism? given GA's issues with pilot error, this seems silly. Never once had a check airman care if i said "with your" or anything nonstandard as long as i flew the plane according to SOP, which is much more important than silly radio issues.
One thing to understand is that in certain circumstances it can matter. "With you?" No one really cares, although there is an old story involving a controller with way too much time on their hands. It comes from a form Part 135 guy I used to be friends with.
I just give my call sign.
I'm not thinking of something in the moment. I do think about flying a lot while I'm not flying (especially when I'm arguing semantics on PoA!
) and that's when I think about stuff like this. "With you" is still half the syllables of "this frequency" so for now I'm gonna keep using it that way.Naah, I'm hoping you'll come up with an even better reason why I shouldn't do it so that we arrive at the best possible solution together.
After thinking through some scenarios where I was thinking it might be useful, I see your point. As long as I'm remaining on the frequency long enough to hear something anyway, it shouldn't matter. So, no more "last call" from me.
There's at least one controller who has taken to responding to "With you" check-ins with "and also with you."
How about "this freak"?
Yeah, I got this once from a SoCal controller on one of the rare occasions where I used "with you" during a check-in. I don't think I've used it since.There's at least one controller who has taken to responding to "With you" check-ins with "and also with you."
only if you say it in the stretched out silly pilot voice
Yabbut…which park, and does it have a swingset?From the other side of the radio, if the tower says “remain this frequency, taxi to park”, don’t ask for permission to taxi to park.
Sounds obvious but it happens to me at least three or four times a week. And yes, it’s almost always C-130s.
“Taxi instructions brought to you by the letters D and A.”From the other side of the radio, if the tower says “remain this frequency, taxi to park”, don’t ask for permission to taxi to park.
Sounds obvious but it happens to me at least three or four times a week. And yes, it’s almost always C-130s.
For you? Yes it does and a couple of frogs on springs to ride on if you’re so inclined
There isn't one. IMO there should be 1 or 2 dedicated air to air frequencies to use for things like this.
I get it...but look at my name. AKA 'the Boy Wonder' LOLFrom now on, when I get told “taxi to parking, remain this frequency”, I am going to respond “taxi to parking, same Bat channel”.
Sorry, kids, I know you won’t get it.
I mean, it would probably make more sense to bow to the inevitable and swap those frequencies. That way all the cool kids can keep chatting it up on "fingers" while the test pilots can use the frequency that apparently no one else knows anything about.
I admit to using fingers on many occasions for exactly that reason. I formally apologize to all test pilots.
