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Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by AggieMike88, Mar 17, 2016.

  1. iamtheari

    iamtheari Pattern Altitude

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    Did you fill in the "Landings" and "Landings - full stop day" or "Landings - full stop night" boxes? The ratings progress feature uses one of those boxes (I'm not sure if it's the full stop or general landings box) for these items, and does not care if you did them at a towered airport or not. It said I was done with my commercial night experience even though I knew that most of my night landings at that time were not accompanied with flight in the traffic pattern or an operating control tower.
     
  2. Hang 4

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    Here's how I entered mine. Make sure you un-click the "hide details" button and put "full stop day" in. Like the other poster said, it doesn't track the towered requirement Logbook.jpg
     
  3. EricBe

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    Hi, Mark. Would need your email (send it privately to me!) to figure out precisely which account is you so that I could give you a more definitive answer for your flight, but here's what I'm looking for in 61.109(a)(5)(ii) and (iii):

    for (ii) and (iii):
    • Real aircraft (i.e., sim flights don't count)
    • Single engine airplane
    • Solo time
    For (ii), also need:
    • Distance (airport to airport, as computed with my airport locations in database) >= 150.0nm.*
    • One segment >= 50nm*
    • At least 3-full-stop landings recorded (this often messes people up). See my blog for a discussion of how to log landings. Note that it's NOT sufficient to log 3 landings, you have to specify a subset that is some combination of full-stop day and full-stop night that adds up to 3 or more.
    *If you click on the route of flight on the website, it should show you these distances as I compute them.

    For (iii), also need:
    • MIN(full-stop-day-landings + full-stop-night-landings, landings at a towered airport) >= 3. I.e., if you did 4 landings, you need to have indicated that at least 3 of those landings were full-stop (day or night) and you further have to indicate that at least 3 of those landings were at a towered airport.
    I would bet the full-stop landings is what's biting you.
     
  4. ja_user

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    Did you mark the flight as solo?
     
  5. MarkH

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    Thanks to everyone for the help, as Hang 4 pointed out, I had failed to mark the landings as full stop under the (show details) button.

    It's working now.
     
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  6. Wize

    Wize Filing Flight Plan

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    Hello,

    I'm new to the forum and pretty new to MyFlightBook. I love the website and product and I'm looking to use it to manage use of a shared airplane. One problem I have run into is with the online scheduler and Chrome. I can't seem to edit or delete schedule entries using Chrome. I can do so using Microsoft Edge. In Chrome, when I click on a time block instead of getting the the screen to edit or cancel, my mouse arrow changes to a 4 directional arrow and all I can do is move the scheduled time entry. Any ideas?

    -Chris
     
  7. EricBe

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    Interesting: it works fine in Chrome on Mac, as well as in Safari on Mac. Even chrome on iOS works. It's just a windows thing. I wonder if there's some windows add-on/extension for chrome that's breaking it?
     
  9. EricBe

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    OK, now I'm puzzled. I can't reproduce it anywhere anymore. Two theories: (a) you and I had an outdated version of chrome that got updated with some fix, or (b) the click had a slight movement to it, which is what triggers drag vs. edit
     
  10. Wize

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    Hi Eric,

    So I don't know what's up, but it's work for me now. I did try closing and reopening Chrome earlier without any success. I didn't have to reboot for it to work. Thank you for the quick response. One thing I also noticed today is it took a few minutes for changes to the airplane to show up in the club reports. I.e. I entered in an oil change date and it didn't show up in a club report until 30 minutes later or until I entered in a 100 hour, even though I technically didn't have a 100 hour, I was just trying to make the oil change record show up. Maybe that's a known issue that you are aware of.

    If I can add other features requests. As others have already suggested, I would love a way to keep track of TACH time sensitive issues like A/D compliance. I've read the thread about your concerns about reliability of previously entered TACH times, but I'll take an imperfect solution over none. Second, if you could add a "oil measured" or "oil observed" flight property, that would be helpful to better track oil consumption among users of the airplane in addition to the already existing "oil added" flight property. Sadly my plane has a tendency to burn quart of oil every 3-4 hours.

    -Chris
     
  11. EricBe

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    I'll have to look at the code, but sometimes there can be a delay due to the use of caching for performance - e.g., something is still using a cached version of the aircraft that is now slightly out of date; when the cache expires, it picks up the changes. Generally, this only happens if you're using multiple modes - e.g., the website and a mobile app. If you have a repro case, please let me know (offline - myflightbook@gmail.com; don't need to fill up this forum with that). That said, I'm pretty sure the club reports don't cache, so I don't know why it wouldn't show up there.

    You can absolutely track things based on hobbs or tach (either one - it's just a number); indeed, my club does exactly that, using tach for some of its aircraft and hobbs for others. It's a bit buried, but you can always grab a high-watermark value of *either* hobbs or tach by going into your club's management page, clicking the Aircraft tab, then clicking "Edit" next to the aircraft; you'll see the high-watermark tach and hobbs and can choose which to fill in. That's computed across all flights in that aircraft by club members who have logged a tach or hobbs time.

    I'm a little unclear on how "oil measured" would be used - at start of flight or end of flight? More to the point, I'm unclear what information does that offer that oil added doesn't? E.g., suppose "full" oil is 6 qts. If you measure 5qts, you're going to add a quart anyhow, so isn't "5qts measured" and "1qt added" kinda the same thing? Or, over time, if over 20 hours of flight you added 5 quarts of oil, then you know you're burning about a quart every 4 hours. What does knowing the measured amount tell you that this doesn't?
     
  12. Wize

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    So the high-water mark works, kind of, but I would love a true hour based deadline like countdown/clock like feature that you have for the 25, 50, 100 hour, etc. Basically a TACH based deadline that others have suggested. Something more menacing as my 50 hour AD ticks closer and closer to reality. Not to mention the other five hourly based ADs I have for my 1971 era plane :)

    For the oil tracking, I would track at the beginning of the flight as most of the time we add oil at the beginning of the flight. For my plane full oil is actually a range. I have a Cherokee 6 with a oil capacity of up to 12 qts but practically anything over 9 qts gets blown out. So I'll fly anything between 9 and 7 qts and it helps to know what the start is. I keep a whole spreadsheet to track oil consumption.

    Thank you again,
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  13. EricBe

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    Hi, Chris. I think I understand you now. Deadlines can indeed work off of hours as you suggest - they just need to have an associated aircraft. When you create a deadline, pick the aircraft with which it is associated. there's then a checkbox that says "Deadline is determined using aircraft hours, not a date". You can then put in the hours when it's due, and it will show up in your currency and in the deadline report. Note that it uses "hours" and doesn't distinguish tach vs. hobbs - just put in the number you want to use. It can't do 25/50/100, I'm afraid, because my deadlines don't know when "last" was done - just when "next" is due, and the whole 25/50/100 thing is based on the idea that the oil change is needed when it's needed, not on a fixed deadline, so I show 3 sample deadlines.

    (Or am I still not quite following?)

    I've added "Oil Level" as a property.
     
  14. Wize

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    Thank you. For the Oil Level any chance that can propagate into the club flying report?

    I figured out the Deadline issue. Perhaps it was my way of accessing the deadlines but I went to "Aircraft - My Aircraft - Nxxxxx" and then went down to "deadlines" at the bottom. There it only let me do calendar deadlines, not hourly based deadlines. When I reviewed your handy Youtube training video I figured out how to access deadlines via the Profile - Custom Deadlines and saw you can add an hourly based deadline. I think the problem is solved.

    -Chris
     
  15. EricBe

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    What would go into report for oil level - most recent? That one is a little tough because it’s associated with a flight, not the aircraft. And then it begs the question of fuel consumed, fuel at start, etc.
     
  16. EricBe

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    BTW, realized that the lack of hours option for a deadline on the aircraft page was a bug. I have a fix, will take it live shortly.
     
  17. Wize

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    So I would say in an ideal world the report section would be customizible for clubs for certain properties. So things that are aircraft specific, per a flight like oil consumed, fuel consumed, fuel at start, tach, hobbs, etc. That way the user could decide what to report and not to report. Of course that's probably a fair amount of coding to do. But even without those fields, you have a great tool.

    -Chris
     
  18. EricBe

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    My point was that the report spans a time period. Things like oil consumed make sense to total or average over that period. But oil measured is a snapshot. What does that mean over a given time period? What value do you report?
     
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    Most common I’ve seen owners want is oil consumed between oil changes over a long time.

    Second most common would be the opposite, oil consumed since last change to see a developing trend happening this change cycle.
     
  20. EricBe

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    Totally agree: consumption is something you can add, so you can compare it over varying time periods. But an oil *level* ("7 qts") doesn't coalesce into a single time: if a reports spans a month and there were 5 reports during the month of 6.5qts, 7qts, 5qts, 7.5qts, and 7.2qts, what do you display in a cell in a report? That's something you might graph, but even that doesn't tell you much without knowing how much flying time was in between...
     
  21. EricBe

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    I just added this...sorta. Does exactly what you describe except for compressing into a single-year view. I.e., you can view a calandar layout of all of your flights and see how many flights you did on that day. Check out the Achievements page on the website (and monthly email on Aug 1).
     
  22. AggieMike88

    AggieMike88 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Pretty snappy! I like it!

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  23. EricBe

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    If you're going to Oshkosh this year, I'd love to meet you!

    * MONDAY 4pm, Workshop classroom A: The Power of Electronic Logbooks. I'll be talking at a high level about what I've learned doing MyFlightbook for the past 13 years or so.
    * TUESDAY, Noon - I'm doing a meet-and-greet at the CloudAhoy booth (Hangar C), highlighting integration between CloudAhoy and MyFlightbook. No prepared talk, opportunity for 1:1 conversations
    * TUESDAY 2pm - meetup! Let's have a beer (if available) or soft drink and discuss...whatever you want to discuss! Food court on Celebration Way (in front of Hangar D).
    * TUESDAY 4pm, Workshop classroom C - Getting Started with MyFlightbook. If you're a new pilot, transitioning from paper, or transitioning from other logbooks, or just want to get into the weeds of how things work, please join me for this talk.

    I'll also be around earlier on Monday and on Wed. morning, if you want to meet up just contact me directly. MyFlightbook@gmail.com.
     
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  24. AggieMike88

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    Please share a summary to your blog or FB page for those of us not attending OSH. I think that would be an interesting read.
     
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    Is it my imagination, or is there not a way to upload telemetry in the mobile app? I could have sworn it used to be there, but can't find it now
     
  26. EricBe

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    absolutely! two ways to do it:
    a) Use the app to record your flight. Turn on the option to record your flight (and optionally autodetect takeoffs/landings), and then between engine start and engine end it will listen to the GPS and record telemetry; this will be saved with the flight.
    b) if you have a GPX or KML file from another source, use the "Send" function to send it to another app. MyFlightbook should be listed as a recipient for it. If you have autodetect turned on, it will initialize a flight from that file, and if you have recording on it will preserve the data as well. You can then save the flight.
     
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    Love to have the chance to say Hi at OSH.. Will see if I can make that happen.
     
  28. denverpilot

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    Someone buy @EricBe a beverage at OSH please.

    Or maybe I just need to go toss a beverage worth of dollars into his PayPal account. Ha.

    Why not both, now that I think about it!
     
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    Got it. I try to remember to auto record my flights, but forget more often than not. In the web version though, there's a direct way to upload telemetry from another app.
     
  31. EricBe

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    Per Mike's request, here is the talk I gave at OSH last year and this. It doesn't read well, so it's a video.