Tesla Model 3 - Finally.

Several years ago I was doing some work in a Michelin warehouse when I noticed a batch of lower profile tires coming down the line that had about 1 - 1.5" of foam - like the packing foam in a camera or gun case - stuck along the tread part of the inside of the tire. I asked what that was all about and they said it was extra noise deadening for electric vehicles.
Yes! My factory tires were the Continental ProContact RX "ContiSilent" made specifically for Tesla. The "ContiSilent" refers to having the foam inside. Each brand has a different name for it.

FWIW, these Goodyears are even quieter, but AFAIK they don't have the foam. I think maybe they designed the treads to somehow be lower noise?
 
Yes! My factory tires were the Continental ProContact RX "ContiSilent" made specifically for Tesla. The "ContiSilent" refers to having the foam inside. Each brand has a different name for it.

FWIW, these Goodyears are even quieter, but AFAIK they don't have the foam. I think maybe they designed the treads to somehow be lower noise?
Which Goodyears are ya using? I’ve heard the foam doesn’t make all that big of a difference. I’ve got Scorpions on the X. They do alright but I’m still looking for something quieter. Kinda hard with 22s though.
 
Which Goodyears are ya using? I’ve heard the foam doesn’t make all that big of a difference. I’ve got Scorpions on the X. They do alright but I’m still looking for something quieter. Kinda hard with 22s though.
Sorry, it was in an earlier post. Goodyear ElectricDrive 2. Seemed to be the best value for a tire that was quiet and had low rolling resistance.
 
Sorry, it was in an earlier post. Goodyear ElectricDrive 2. Seemed to be the best value for a tire that was quiet and had low rolling resistance.

I went with the stock Michelins when replacing the originals, largely because they were a know quantity and still had tread left at 42,000 miles.

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I’d rank my tire priorities right now in descending order as:

1) Noise
2) Tire life
3) Efficiency
4) Handling

I have maybe 10,000 miles left on my second set of Michelins. Might just try the Goodyears next time around.

As an aside, I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Discount Tire. Prompt, courteous service, and they went out of their way to fit us in when out travel trailer had a blowout on a Texas trip. Until very recently I did my own tire rotations every 10,000, but now I let Discount Tire do it, since it’s free and takes very little time in and out.
 
I went with the stock Michelins when replacing the originals, largely because they were a know quantity and still had tread left at 42,000 miles.
I considered both my stock Continentals as well as the Michelins that others like you have gotten stock; everyone seems to be happy with both. Whoever chooses tires for Tesla appears to do well.
As an aside, I’ve had nothing but good experiences with Discount Tire. Prompt, courteous service, and they went out of their way to fit us in when out travel trailer had a blowout on a Texas trip. Until very recently I did my own tire rotations every 10,000, but now I let Discount Tire do it, since it’s free and takes very little time in and out.
I have heard the same, and also had good experiences myself. I had the latest set put on at Discount Tire. They're called "America's Tire" in some places.
 
Recently got new tires for our 2022 M3 LR.

As background, the stock Michelin Primacy tires lasted 42,000 miles. Replaced them with the same tires, but at 30,000 miles they were worn enough that Discount Tire wouldn’t rotate them.

My original intent was to try Goodyear Electric Drive tires, but our local Discount Tire didn’t have them in stock. They suggested a great deal on Michelin CrossClimate 2’s. With a tire wear credit on the Primacy mileage warranty, a set of 4 installed was $770.39, close to 1/2 my last tire purchase. And these have a longer 60,000 mile tread wear warranty.

Stipulated they’re not specifically EV tires, and have no sound deadening foam. After 2 weeks we both don’t notice any change in tire noise. Too soon to see any effect on range. But it will be nice having a bit more “All Season” capability. And we both like the more “aggressive” look.

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ChrisFix on how to change the oil in a Tesla.

Im curious about the engineering of that radiator. In the electric S, stock radiators are all low just like in my X. The lower inlets flow through it but in this car, that’s a huge radiator with inlets just hitting the bottom. Also, the S sits low so there’s not much airflow going beneath to pull (low pressure) that hot air out. Kinda wonder if like my DeLorean, this thing runs a bit on the hot side.
 
Im curious about the engineering of that radiator. In the electric S, stock radiators are all low just like in my X. The lower inlets flow through it but in this car, that’s a huge radiator with inlets just hitting the bottom. Also, the S sits low so there’s not much airflow going beneath to pull (low pressure) that hot air out. Kinda wonder if like my DeLorean, this thing runs a bit on the hot side.
Here's a short recap of the project. You can find longer, more detailed videos on the same channel. Both the Model S, and the Camaro from which the engine and transmission was sourced, had been totaled.

 
Recently got new tires for our 2022 M3 LR.

As background, the stock Michelin Primacy tires lasted 42,000 miles. Replaced them with the same tires, but at 30,000 miles they were worn enough that Discount Tire wouldn’t rotate them.

My original intent was to try Goodyear Electric Drive tires, but our local Discount Tire didn’t have them in stock. They suggested a great deal on Michelin CrossClimate 2’s. With a tire wear credit on the Primacy mileage warranty, a set of 4 installed was $770.39, close to 1/2 my last tire purchase. And these have a longer 60,000 mile tread wear warranty.

Stipulated they’re not specifically EV tires, and have no sound deadening foam. After 2 weeks we both don’t notice any change in tire noise. Too soon to see any effect on range. But it will be nice having a bit more “All Season” capability. And we both like the more “aggressive” look.
My stock factory Continental ProContact Rx ContiSilent tires made it 70,000, though they could certainly have been replaced earlier.

I got the Goodyear ElectricDrive 2 tires this time, going for low noise and low rolling resistance along with the other things you'd be looking at from any tire. Unfortunately, nobody has really quantified rolling resistance that I could find so all I had to go off of were star ratings; I reset my "Trip A" when I put these tires on so that I can see my actual Wh/mi after a year or so. So far it's mostly been worse but that's mainly due to the cold weather, I've seen trips down around 220 Wh/mi on mild weather days.

The new ones are noticeably more quiet, which I'm a big fan of. On a smooth asphalt road, there's just this nice "swish" sound almost like just the lightest breeze through the leaves. Hopefully the efficiency is improved as well.
 
China is leading the way. Some of these EVs are less than half the cost of American.

 
I have a “quick and dirty” comparison for what my CrossClimate 2’s are costing in efficiency.

“Trip B” is almost entirely on the original sets of Primacy’s- 229.2 Wh/mile.

A recent local drive shows 258.7 Wh/mile.

If I’m doing the math right, an efficiency loss of 12% to 13%. No significance for local driving, but on road trips could result in maybe and extra charging stop once in a while*.

I just reset “Trip B” and renamed it “CrossClimate 2’s”. I’ll be monitoring it to see if it changes with more varied trip distances/profies and report back if I see a significant change.

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*On a recent trip from the Knoxville, TN area to northern IN (Syracuse) on the new tires, the car had Karen stop 3 times, where she knows she’s made the trip with only 2 charges before. Each stop on the recent trip was between 21 and 26 minutes.

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We rented a Toyota this weekend. Wife said "this thing sucks, it takes forever to start." I said give me the owners manual and I'll figure it out.

It was a hybrid. I had to explain the engine only runs when it needs to.

On the lidar/radar debate, the radar on the Toyota was abysmal. In even the slightest amount of snow, the it shuts off, and the cruise control is inop without radar. I drove from the Colorado mountains to Amarillo TX yesterday with my foot on the gas. Right leg was sore as hell.

But we still made it by morning.
 
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I have a “quick and dirty” comparison for what my CrossClimate 2’s are costing in efficiency.

“Trip B” is almost entirely on the original sets of Primacy’s- 229.2 Wh/mile.

A recent local drive shows 258.7 Wh/mile.

If I’m doing the math right, an efficiency loss of 12% to 13%. No significance for local driving, but on road trips could result in maybe and extra charging stop once in a while*.

I just reset “Trip B” and renamed it “CrossClimate 2’s”. I’ll be monitoring it to see if it changes with more varied trip distances/profies and report back if I see a significant change.

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*On a recent trip from the Knoxville, TN area to northern IN (Syracuse) on the new tires, the car had Karen stop 3 times, where she knows she’s made the trip with only 2 charges before. Each stop on the recent trip was between 21 and 26 minutes.

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Yeah but a lot of that is because they’re new tires. Once they get broken in, you should be back to previous efficiency. You’re lucky, I’m averaging 388 Wh/mi but that’s on 22s. I like their looks over the 20s so I’ll just keep rolling with them.
 
Yeah but a lot of that is because they’re new tires. Once they get broken in, you should be back to previous efficiency. You’re lucky, I’m averaging 388 Wh/mi but that’s on 22s. I like their looks over the 20s so I’ll just keep rolling with them.

I’ll see if that trends. BTW, my Model 3 has the stock 18” wheels with aero covers.
 
I considered both my stock Continentals as well as the Michelins that others like you have gotten stock; everyone seems to be happy with both. Whoever chooses tires for Tesla appears to do well.

I have heard the same, and also had good experiences myself. I had the latest set put on at Discount Tire. They're called "America's Tire" in some places.

Yup, been using them for many years. Had a blowout couple months ago, they rotated the tires & put the new ones on ASAP.
 
Did you look at the Hankook EV tires? I've heard good things about them and the new M3 and MY had them at the showroom when I was down there a couple weeks ago.
No, but not for any particular reason. Like I said, I had settled on the Goodyear ElectricDrives, but the deal on the CrossClimate 2’s was too good to pass up. Not exactly an “impulse purchase”, but close.
 
I use Trip B for my "all time" measurements. I'm just shy of 75,000 miles and 244.7 Wh/mi.
I did reset Trip A a couple years ago when I did my first real road trip in it, to help a friend pick up his first new EV. That started after I had mostly gotten over the whole "tearing up the pavement in the fun new car" phase, so it was 39,497 miles and 234 Wh/mi, so that should be a pretty good baseline.
I reset Trip A when I put on the Goodyears, and it's at 272.2 Wh/mi after 4,381 miles. However, that's been mostly cold weather, and I'm seeing lots of trips in the 220s now that we're on the warmer side of that time period.

Yeah but a lot of that is because they’re new tires. Once they get broken in, you should be back to previous efficiency. You’re lucky, I’m averaging 388 Wh/mi but that’s on 22s. I like their looks over the 20s so I’ll just keep rolling with them.
How long does that take?

I'm expecting consumption to go down a lot with the warming weather as well, so that alone won't tell me much.
 
I use Trip B for my "all time" measurements. I'm just shy of 75,000 miles and 244.7 Wh/mi.
I did reset Trip A a couple years ago when I did my first real road trip in it, to help a friend pick up his first new EV. That started after I had mostly gotten over the whole "tearing up the pavement in the fun new car" phase, so it was 39,497 miles and 234 Wh/mi, so that should be a pretty good baseline.
I reset Trip A when I put on the Goodyears, and it's at 272.2 Wh/mi after 4,381 miles. However, that's been mostly cold weather, and I'm seeing lots of trips in the 220s now that we're on the warmer side of that time period.


How long does that take?

I'm expecting consumption to go down a lot with the warming weather as well, so that alone won't tell me much.
I don’t know how long it’ll take. Temporary condition though. I agree, cold weather could be mixed in with the increase in Wh-mi as well.

 
I don’t know how long it’ll take. Temporary condition though. I agree, cold weather could be mixed in with the increase in Wh-mi as well.

They say a 10% drop in range (/efficiency) when going to new tires on an EV. However, it also sounds like maybe the change is fairly linear over the life of the tires?

So, my old tires would be somewhere between 234 and 244 Wh/mi over their life - Less than the 244 because my driving calmed down a bit on average, but more than 234 because that was the last half of those tires' life. So call it 240, the 10% drop would put me at 264 for the same tires new across all temps normally seen here. That bodes well for these tires, since they're only at 272 during a pretty cold part of the year.

I'm planning to look at my Trip A exactly a year after I installed these tires, that should give me a pretty good idea of their overall efficiency in this area, though I am expecting more highway miles and colder temps as I begin commuting north for my new job.
 
Got a Model Y (1 Gen) loaner today after dropping the X off for repairs. Descent ride. Little stiff for my liking. Pretty good whine during hard acceleration. Comfortable seat. Better cornering than my X. Would like to take the new Y for a test drive.IMG_0106.jpegIMG_0102.jpeg Had a bunch on the lot.
 
Fake pics. None of them are vandalized or burned out.

Still waiting on the ~500 mile range EV for the price/capability of the ICE equivalent. Had to drive instead of fly two weeks ago. Grand Rapids, MI --> Atlanta, GA because I didn't feel like flying through a tornado watch/warning. Drove through it instead. :p Last minute forecast change, so time then became an issue. One fuel/potty/food stop in a Chevy Equinox. Wife and daughter would have LOVED to stop how many more times, and wait how many more hours to get there?
 
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Dear Lord, I hate the looks of the Cybertruck. Everything about it repels me.

The updated Y looks great, OTOH.
 
Fake pics. None of them are vandalized or burned out.

Still waiting on the ~500 mile range EV for the price/capability of the ICE equivalent. Had to drive instead of fly two weeks ago. Grand Rapids, MI --> Atlanta, GA because I didn't feel like flying through a tornado watch/warning. Drove through it instead. :p Last minute forecast change, so time then became an issue. One fuel/potty/food stop in a Chevy Equinox. Wife and daughter would have LOVED to stop how many more times, and wait how many more hours to get there?
You gotta go to China to get those cars- and recharge in 5 minutes. They are way ahead of us for 'lectric cars.
Tesla is really behind the state-of-the-art.
 
You gotta go to China to get those cars- and recharge in 5 minutes. They are way ahead of us for 'lectric cars.
Tesla is really behind the state-of-the-art.
I don't think so. BYD *just* demonstrated this for the first time within the last month, and CATL just a few days ago. However, BYD only added 150 miles of range in 5 minutes so it's not a "5 minute recharge" - That's the equivalent of about 456kW charging rate; Tesla's v4 Superchargers are at 325kW today and expected to be upped to 500 kW, with over 500 sites already deployed.

CATL followed up with something faster a few days ago, claiming 323 miles of range in 5 minutes. You know who uses CATL batteries, among others? Tesla. But the key is, Tesla is way ahead in actually deploying chargers that can do this.

I guess I'm skeptical because I've been hearing claims for years that the next battery breakthrough is right around the corner. These are announcements, not shipping products... And while they're closer to reality than before, they need to be put into cars and charging stations need to be built that can accommodate those charging rates.
 
I don't think so. BYD *just* demonstrated this for the first time within the last month, and CATL just a few days ago. However, BYD only added 150 miles of range in 5 minutes so it's not a "5 minute recharge" - That's the equivalent of about 456kW charging rate; Tesla's v4 Superchargers are at 325kW today and expected to be upped to 500 kW, with over 500 sites already deployed.
It's 250 miles of range. https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/0...-5-min-charge-time-adding-250-miles-of-range/
CATL followed up with something faster a few days ago, claiming 323 miles of range in 5 minutes. You know who uses CATL batteries, among others? Tesla. But the key is, Tesla is way ahead in actually deploying chargers that can do this.
Tesla doesn't have any chargers that can do this, unless they are in China. There's no need for them here, because the USA has no cars that can take the charge that quickly. And we won't for a long time.
I guess I'm skeptical because I've been hearing claims for years that the next battery breakthrough is right around the corner. These are announcements, not shipping products... And while they're closer to reality than before, they need to be put into cars and charging stations need to be built that can accommodate those charging rates.
China's done it. They cost the equivalent of $38,000 USD. That's the same price as a Nissan Rogue. They are way ahead of us. They also are selling cars that use sodium batteries instead of lithium- sodium is cheaper, easier to get since there's entire oceans with sodium.
 
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