Need someone to google that for you?Damn. Low overhanging clouds delayed the search. Anyone know the wx around the times this may have happened?
Nah, but how? "historic wx?" I've seen the old METARS here before, just don't know how to get them.Need someone to google that for you?
Nah, but how? "historic wx?" I've seen the old METARS here before, just don't know how to get them.
So your answer is naw/yeah? Okay
Go to aviationweather.gov and look for surface weather observations. That's one way and the are other methods.
It looks like 200' ceilings at GWS at the time of the crash. Maybe it was layered and the guy was in the clear. I've flown over fog and between layers in a single engine over the mountains...but always solo.
I had already checked. Looked at flightaware then checked weather. And I got the snarky comments in for free.He sucked ya right in Clark! You did his leg work.
I had already checked. Looked at flightaware then checked weather. And I got the snarky comments in for free.
Pure speculation:I wonder if they were trying to follow the airway V8 instead of the valley.
Pretty much an IMC situation at night with an undercast even if in unlimited visibility. Easy for a VFR only guy to lose it.Excerpts from CAP report:
On Friday, 9/15, 2350 local time ... reports that an aircraft disappeared from radar approximately 10 miles northwest of Glenwood Springs CO. The Cirrus SR22 was on a VFR flight from Ft Collins (KFNL) to Canyon UT (KCYN) with no reported flight plan, but with flight following.
There were no reports of an ELT being heard at the time. Local weather was IFR in the area with low ceilings and ground fog. The TAF for the morning was encouraging with MVFR to VFR in the local areas. .... Next few hours doing ramp checks by phone and working with the CAP radar forensics team on the radar track of the aircraft .... which identified the last know position (LKP) of the aircraft. ...... The area of the LKP is in a wilderness area with few access roads and rugged terrain.
The first crew from Montrose lifted off MJT at 0745 local to proceed to the LKP. A second crew from Grand Junction lifted off shortly later for a route search along the most probable route as a precaution in case the aircraft flew low under radar coverage due to the weather. The Montrose crew arrived at the LKP on top of the overcast and was diverted to Rifle (KRIL) to land and wait for the ground fog to burn off. When the fog burned off, the Montrose crew departed RIL and flew to the LKP. At that point, smoke was noted on the ground near the LKP. A MedEvac helicopter was inbound and was directed to the smoke area by the Montrose crew.
If he was on radar in that area then he was well above terrain.Pure speculation:
That was my thought also when I first heard about it. But if the information is correct - marginal conditions at night in the mountains. Sad but textbook CFIT, also accounting for the non-use of the chute.
Nah. But I'll take credit for that, lol. I went to that link and now I know how to do itHe sucked ya right in Clark! You did his leg work.
No credit for you. Wannabes like you have to get in line. There was no link, only a direction to a website and a hint of what to look for at that website.Nah. But I'll take credit for that, lol. I went to that link and now I know how to do it
Dayum. The ol' it's a copy and paste not a link ploy and I fell for it.No credit for you. Wannabes like you have to get in line. There was no link, only a direction to a website and a hint of what to look for at that website.
Any reference to verify low time? I can't find the pilot in the FAA database. Does COPA have more info?General consensus on COPA is that this flight never should have been initiated. Low-time pilot, night, weather, mountains - a deadly combination. Night, weather and mountains would dissuade most of the experience pilots in the discussion.
A lot of discussion about ADM, and how it can be taught. But that ultimately, low-time pilots may not be in position to accurately weigh risks.
COPA???General consensus on COPA is that this flight never should have been initiated. Low-time pilot, night, weather, mountains - a deadly combination. Night, weather and mountains would dissuade most of the experience pilots in the discussion.
A lot of discussion about ADM, and how it can be taught. But that ultimately, low-time pilots may not be in position to accurately weigh risks.
Copacabana. It's where Cirrus owners and pilots hang out to drink zima and listen to Barry Manilow.COPA???
In all fairness, we don't know if the flight was at night or not. The AFRCC (Air Force Rescue Coordination Center) sent the call at close to midnight.FAA database shows he was certificated in March
All I could find was Lester Makepeace, commercial.FAA database shows he was certificated in March