Second Annual North Texas Winter Extravaganza - Cedar Mills (3T0)

[Jim K]

It looks real ugly.

 

[Chrisgoesflying]

I wouldn't even drive if the forecast holds true and I'm just an hour away.

 

[RyanShort1]

Eh, we've still got a few more days to see the weather pattern more clearly.

Should have a real good estimate by Thursday.

Gotta love aviation. I go through this every week trying to plan photo missions and other life things.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

Cancellation policy is 14 days out so cancelling now or the night before is the same level of pain in the pocketbook.
I am anticipating it likely not working out at this point though.

Perhaps a winter Fly-in was not a great idea.

Seriously though...

 

[MacFlier]

I wouldn't even drive if the forecast holds true and I'm just an hour away.

Same

 

[masloki]

I'll drive in anything (amiright @Jim K ) up here but TX cannot handle their ice and snow at all. Well, besides cocktails. They do alright with ice in their cocktails.

 

[masloki]

remember last year?

I'm surprised you and David didn't lose a finger to frostbite.

 

[TCABM]

…I like the idea of a fly-in this time of year and Texas seems like the place to have it but flying looks like a no go right now.

They’re even calling for a winter weather warning as far south as the SAT area this weekend.

Port Isabel/S. Padre is nice though.

 

[Bill]

I grew up in a place with lots of hills, curves, and snow, and know how to get about in these conditions. I live down south now but will not drive when it snows as there’s a very high chance that Bubba in his giant Brodozer will take you out.

They all suddenly drive a lot faster, which makes no sense.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

Well the resort just called me and told me there's a good chance we're going to get stranded there and not be able to get out if we drive in and we're probably not flying in.

I spoke to her about the cancellation policy and I guess it's like all the other ones you can move it or cancel it and lose your deposit.

So I'll just plan on rescheduling to a time when things warm up and maybe we can get some more people out but for now I'm going plan on it not going to happen this weekend.

 

[GoFly]

So the resort called and urged you not to come, but wouldn’t refund your deposit?

 

[Lowflynjack]

They’re even calling for a winter weather warning as far south as the SAT area this weekend.

They're predicting a lot of ice in Austin. I'll be stuck at home pacing like a caged animal!

 

[RussR]

Well the resort just called me and told me there's a good chance we're going to get stranded there and not be able to get out if we drive in and we're probably not flying in.

I spoke to her about the cancellation policy and I guess it's like all the other ones you can move it or cancel it and lose your deposit.

So I'll just plan on rescheduling to a time when things warm up and maybe we can get some more people out but for now I'm going plan on it not going to happen this weekend.

Can you reschedule for, say 6 months from now, and then cancel since it's more than 14 days away?

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

So the resort called and urged you not to come, but wouldn’t refund your deposit?

She recommended I adjust my stay to leave a day later when the ice is predicted to melt. But yeah.

 

[kaiser]

Moving it is probably best. I think the only way I'd make it if 5 to 7 others in the Chicago area wanted to 61.113(c)/AC61-142 with me down there in the $$$$ equipment (plus hangar). and I really want to make it again this year!

We really pick the right weekend for this. As I recall, last year it was -10F at altitude on the way back.

I'm surprised you and David didn't lose a finger to frostbite.

Fingers were fine, it was our toes/feet. We landed in south central IL (150nm short of our planned drop off), went into the FBO and started taking off all most of our layers, shoes etc since we'd be able to warm up faster without all that stuff on. After about an hour or so on the ground, we were ready to trudge the rest of the way.

Well the resort just called me and told me there's a good chance we're going to get stranded there and not be able to get out if we drive in and we're probably not flying in.

I spoke to her about the cancellation policy and I guess it's like all the other ones you can move it or cancel it and lose your deposit.

So I'll just plan on rescheduling to a time when things warm up and maybe we can get some more people out but for now I'm going plan on it not going to happen this weekend.

Incidentally, I'm in Dallas 15-21 Feb (still to be confirmed).

 

[Jim K]

if 5 to 7 others in the Chicago area wanted to 61.113(c)/AC61-142 with me down there in the $$$$ equipment

semi-serious question...what would that look like, dollar-wise?

 

[eman1200]

semi-serious question...what would that look like, dollar-wise?

I'm going to GUESS at about $1500/hr, splitable. complete, random, factually baseless guess.

 

[kaiser]

semi-serious question...what would that look like, dollar-wise?

I'm going to GUESS at about $1500/hr, splitable. complete, random, factually baseless guess.

This is pretty close I think for this plane, wet. The variance will come if you get $4 or $7 gas.

 

[masloki]

This is pretty close I think for this plane, wet. The variance will come if you get $4 or $7 gas.

It’s like a one hour flight though, right?

For those throwing darts at calendars and trying to warm up, I’m planning on hitting NOLA Feb. 6-8 to catch some of the parades and miss most of the craziness. Weather permitting still but if you are free, why not? No hotel picked yet as there are plenty, and I’ve got points for all of them but likely central business district adjacent to the French quarter.

 

[kaiser]

It’s like a one hour flight though, right?

For those throwing darts at calendars and trying to warm up, I’m planning on hitting NOLA Feb. 6-8 to catch some of the parades and miss most of the craziness. Weather permitting still but if you are free, why not? No hotel picked yet as there are plenty, and I’ve got points for all of them but likely central business district adjacent to the French quarter.

2.8h down @ 14k. Showing 40+ headwind and more higher.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

If you have a reservation for a cabin, move it to an arbitrary date.
I moved mine to the weekend of 3-13. I will either see if anyone here wants to try again when it warms up or just push it to the coldest weekend again next year.

 

[flyingcheesehead]

If you have a reservation for a cabin, move it to an arbitrary date.
I moved mine to the weekend of 3-13.

... And if you kept it there, I could probably make it!

 

[kaiser]

Mods… since this is the 2nd year with this issue, can we move this thread to “Cold Places to Fly”?

 

[RussR]

The weather forecast just keeps getting better, doesn't it, @SixPapaCharlie? Some forecasts have up to 12" of snow here in OKC, with of course it changing to ice as you get closer to the Red River. Great times.

They actually recalled all the work planes that were out on trips today, which were originally supposed to be out until tomorrow.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

The weather forecast just keeps getting better, doesn't it, @SixPapaCharlie? Some forecasts have up to 12" of snow here in OKC, with of course it changing to ice as you get closer to the Red River. Great times.

They actually recalled all the work planes that were out on trips today, which were originally supposed to be out until tomorrow.

And I am up at 4:30 AM trying to score OT because De-Icing, cancelled flights and getting stranded = $$$
If I could get stranded somewhere for a couple days, it wouldn't be a bad thing. Weirdest job ever.

 

[WDD]

This will probably be the worse weekend out of the year to do anything outside. GA has already declared a state of emergency. No, not kidding. Bonus: Local airport, KRYY in Kennesaw, issued an e mail alert on procedures and "Winter Weather Operation Plan".

Sad, but I predict on Saturday people will trudge to the Kroger, WalMart and buy all the milk and toilet paper and strip the shelves. This will happen because there might be a shortage and the shelves might become empty, so I'll strip the shelves to prevent and get ahead of that. After all, might not make it to Monday without a dozen extra rolls of toilet paper and another gallon of milk that will go bad in a few weeks because bought too much milk and can't drink it all.

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As timing, types, and amounts of winter precipitation become more precise, the decision will be made to execute the Airport's Winter Weather Operations Plan. Factors will include the likelihood that surrounding roadways will be impassible, the number of known flight reservations, and logistics such as staffing levels. Our primary concern is for our aircraft, stakeholders, and employees.​

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Impacts​

• Please keep in mind that each winter weather event is different. Impacts for this event are expected to exceed the airport’s capability to maintain a safe airfield for aircraft operations – especially if ice is present on the runway.
• We anticipate that Airport property and surrounding areas will lose commercial power. If this occurs, all vehicle gates will be unavailable until power has been restored.

Action Items​

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Aircraft operators are encouraged to contact Ascension FBO at (770) 422-4300 to:​

• Report any expected flight operations between Friday (1/23) and Monday (1/26)
• Inquire about the availability of hangar space

Communication​

• A follow-up notification will be sent out by Friday afternoon
• While impacts are present, Airport Operations will communicate the airfield conditions to pilots through FICON NOTAMs. If there are no active NOTAMs, then the airfield is in normal operation.

Contacts:​

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Should you have any questions, concerns, or require further information, please contact the following:​

• For general information, please email: [email protected]
• For immediate operational concerns, please contact: Wes McDonald (Airport Operations Manager) at: (678) 260-0162

- Wes​

 

[WDD]

If I could get stranded somewhere for a couple days, it wouldn't be a bad thing. Weirdest job ever.

Well, if they positioned you in Cedar Mills........

 

[eman1200]

....wait, I'm actually NOT out of town...............

 

[kaiser]

Wait till you hear about my flight to IWD last night. For those of you playing at home...
METAR KIWD 222356Z AUTO 29016G26KT 1/2SM SN FZFG BKN006 OVC019 M24/M27 A3015 RMK AO2 PK WND 30026/2349 CIG 003V011 SLP252 P0000 60000 T12441267 11183 21244 51036 FZRANO RVRNO

 

[Hang 4]

Sad, but I predict on Saturday people will trudge to the Kroger, WalMart and buy all the milk and toilet paper and strip the shelves.

It's the Atlanta area, the shelves are already empty.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

I went to the store today to make a beer run because we know we're going to be locked in for the next 3 days and the shelves were pretty empty of all the things that people generally stuck up on.

I'm just sitting here thinking every one of you has 3 days worth of food in your pantry but all the meats gone all the water was gone all the milk and eggs were gone.

Fortunately I guess I'm just a little bit hoity-toity cuz most of the crap beer was gone but the good stuff that taste like wet cardboard was fairly untouched.

 

[SixPapaCharlie]

Wait till you hear about my flight to IWD last night. For those of you playing at home...
METAR KIWD 222356Z AUTO 29016G26KT 1/2SM SN FZFG BKN006 OVC019 M24/M27 A3015 RMK AO2 PK WND 30026/2349 CIG 003V011 SLP252 P0000 60000 T12441267 11183 21244 51036 FZRANO RVRNO

Gross

 

[Jim K]

Fortunately I guess I'm just a little bit hoity-toity cuz most of the crap beer was gone but the good stuff that taste like wet cardboard was fairly untouched.

modern problems require modern solutions:

 

[JEM68]

We miss our kegerator.

 

[GoFly]

Hey, where is everybody?