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Totally a mater of curiosity. Has anyone ever gotten rid of a older G1000 in favor of after-market components? For example, replacing a G100 system with a G500/600 and GTN?
Bear in mind that G1000 is an OEM product. That means two things - manufacturer customized and manufacturer-specific upgrade path. Both can cause issues.Holy Cow! When did the G1000 become old?!?
Totally a mater of curiosity. Has anyone ever gotten rid of a older G1000 in favor of after-market components? For example, replacing a G100 system with a G500/600 and GTN?
Considering the G1000 is typically STCd into an airframe I don't see why a reversal couldn't be performed. You'd just need to get all the components that the G1000 replaces.
I haven't heard of it being done yet but considering the age of some of the early systems I think we'll see it happen soon.
Is the Garmin/Cirrus Perspective system an STC into the airframe? I thought you could not remove and replace that system at all.
I guess a related question is, why buy an airplane which is obsolete or, worse, a new one which may be technologically obsolete in a few years?Better off selling the airplane and buying an older one that you can customize or newer one that has everything you want.
I guess a related question is, why buy an airplane which is obsolete or, worse, a new one which may be technologically obsolete in a few years?
I'm not griping about technology getting better and more sophisticated; that's expected. "I want the latest and greatest" is what I buy into with every technology purchase. If all G1000 installations have an upgrade path, no harm, no foul. If I have a non-WAAS G1000 and have to pay to get hardware, firmware and software upgrades, want a better screen, or upgrade to a NXi, I don't see a problem. So long as I can.That seems a function of going digital/glass.
Anything of that sort appears to have a shorter half-life/faster decay rate than our old King Silver Crown avionics.
Even worse, I wonder whether we're getting close to the point in time that early G1000s are becoming unrepairable due to components nearing end-of-life.But in the G1000 world, indications are that unless Garmin and an airframe manufacturer agree, there is no upgrade path. Period. And if if it's even possible to remove an integrated G1000 system and replace it with modular equipment I'm willing to bet you can't do it on a piecemeal basis. You need to budget to do it all at once.
Lovely idea, but if Garmin and the aircraft manufacturer don't collaborate on a way to do that, you can't.Go with an NXI upgrade. Got 407 GXI qual’d recently and they’re much improved over the G1000s. Very impressed with SVT detail over the G500/1000. Of course there’s cost involved.View attachment 93946
...But in the G1000 world, indications are that unless Garmin and an airframe manufacturer agree, there is no upgrade path. Period. And if if it's even possible to remove an integrated G1000 system and replace it with modular equipment I'm willing to bet you can't do it on a piecemeal basis. You need to budget to do it all at once.
It's funny. Getting a bit bored with the usual bunch of YouTube aviators, I crossed the Pond. There's a guy in the UK flying a lovely Pre G1000 DA40. New panel. Obviously he replaced most everything, but (a) he was able to and (b) he didn't have to.
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Even worse, I wonder whether we're getting close to the point in time that early G1000s are becoming unrepairable due to components nearing end-of-life.
But in the G1000 world, indications are that unless Garmin and an airframe manufacturer agree, there is no upgrade path. Period. And if if it's even possible to remove an integrated G1000 system and replace it with modular equipment I'm willing to bet you can't do it on a piecemeal basis. You need to budget to do it all at once.
Exactly. These highly integrated systems are wonderful, until the moment you want to make a change (or a forced to make a change because of a mandate). You have so little control over what you can add to the system at that point, it really limits your options - and the OEM has to play a role in this, too, because the avionics system is part of the type certificate.The problem with the G1000 installations is that they are application specific, and the airframe manufacturer essentially owns the rights to that specific installation. In other words, if Diamond doesn't feel that there is enough of a revenue stream for upgrading the older systems they aren't going to invest in developing an upgrade.