Peak absurdity of CA gov

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Ed Haywood said:
New from California:

brass screwdrivers cause cancer.

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Most brass has lead in it, and anything that may contain lead automatically gets the prop 65 warning label. A few years ago, I ordered a brass valve from Grainger. They had to call me and make me promise I wasn't going to use it for potable water because the brass may contain lead. I think that was shortly after it passed; most of those valves are now made of lead-free brass.
 
Saw the same warning on a piece of 2x4 lumber! "This product may contain wood dust, a substance known to the State of California..."
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CA gov does many absurd things- but this *isn’t* one of them.
The voters- in 1986- passed the promotion requiring carcinogens be labeled-by a 2 to 1 margin.
I imagine most electorates would pass similar laws if they were on the ballot.
Answer- for many manufacturers, doubtless based on legal advice?
Label everything as potentially carcinogenic.
 
Llewtrah381 said:
Prop 65 has been around for 39 years. Longer than some of the posters on here, I bet. There’s no down side to putting the sticker on. There IS a potential down side - from the lawyers, I’m thinking, of not having it.
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That is why literally everything in California has a Prop 65 warning on it and why Prop 65 is useless.
 
Llewtrah381 said:
Prop 65 has been around for 39 years. Longer than some of the posters on here, I bet. There’s no down side to putting the sticker on. There IS a potential down side - from the lawyers, I’m thinking, of not having it.
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Actually, the downside is it’s now noise. If there are dangerous cancer causing things in the environment you can’t tell because everything has the label.
 
SFDukie said:
CA gov does many absurd things- but this *isn’t* one of them.
Assembly- a long time ago- passed a law stating that carcinogens must be labeled.
Answer- for many manufacturers, doubtless based on legal advice?
Label everything as potentially carcinogenic.
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The second part of your post disproves the first.
 
jsstevens said:
Actually, the downside is it’s now noise.
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That's not a downside to the manufacturer, but it is an entirely foreseeable unintended consequences of the law
If there are dangerous cancer causing things in the environment you can’t tell because everything has the label.
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Oops. Don't pass stupid laws. It's ok though, because no one's actually selling dangerous, cancer-causing consumer goods in California. That's what we have tort law for anyway.
 
I voted No on Prop 65. My prediction about it sure turned out to be on the mark. I voted no because it was obvious that it would lead to everything being labeled as hazardous. My comment back then - as a 19 year old - was “what, are they gonna put signs up everywhere outdoors warning that the sun causes cancer?”
 
ateamer said:
I voted No on Prop 65. My prediction about it sure turned out to be on the mark. I voted no because it was obvious that it would lead to everything being labeled as hazardous. My comment back then - as a 19 year old - was “what, are they gonna put signs up everywhere outdoors warning that the sun causes cancer?”
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Interesting history of the prop on Wiki, the Font of All Human Knowledge. It was used - by Jane Fonda - to drive out the vote for a Dem candidate for Governor. Apparently, even though the prop passed 2 to 1, the candidate didn’t win.
 
Kinda like this plate. It's "compostable" in all 49 states - mother earth will just turn this b**** into dirt, but not in California - they have a different earth it seems.

Definition of compostable as per ASTM D6400 / EN 13432 standards: A material is considered compostable if it biodegrades under industrial composting conditions (typically within 180 days) into carbon dioxide, water, inorganic compounds, and biomass, at a rate consistent with known compostable materials, and leaves no visible, distinguishable, or toxic residue.

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You need to label any planes with chromate paint.
 
who knew that lead could cause cancer and "reproductive harm"? ok, I know about the reproductive problems that are possibly linked to increased blood lead levels. But there isn't good evidence that lead causes cancer.
 
It would be interesting to see a study on what % of consumer products are labeled. Pick an aisle at Walmart and count the yeas and nays.
 
I bought a sheet of plywood that warned that cutting will generate sawdust.

I'm known to cause cancer in the state of California.
 
Before this thread, how many of you knew brass can have lead in it?

I didn't.
I might be a bit more cautious about letting a developing teenager use a brass handle screwdriver regularly, if not wearing gloves.

Same reason I tell the FBO kids that refuel planes all day long to wear gloves. They get a lot more exposure to TEL than the typical weekend warrior, and their brains are still actively developing.
 
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AV8R_87 said:
Before this thread, how many of you knew brass can have lead in it?

I didn't.
I might be a bit more cautious about letting a developing teenager use a brass handle screwdriver regularly, if not wearing gloves.

Same reason I tell the FBO kids that refuel planes all day long to wear gloves. They get a lot more exposure to TEL than the typical weekend warrior, and their brsins are still actively developing.
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Please, get over yourself. I am so ****ing tired of people telling me "wow, I discovered this today and I thought you ****ing morons would like to know about it."
 
billsgs126 said:
Please, get over yourself. I am so ****ing tired of people telling me "wow, I discovered this today and I thought you ****ing morons would like to know about it."
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Sounds like you've been washing the grease off your hands with 100LL way too often.
Otherwise the complete tangent of your reply needs further investigation.
 
AV8R_87 said:
Sounds like you've been washing the grease off your hands with 100LL way too often.
Otherwise the complete tangent of your reply needs further investigation.
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So many are so ****ing full of themselves to realize that they are not the know-all be-all.

Brass is an alloy, DUH. It's not like Wiki or any other source allows one to look at its composition.
 
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