Oshkosh 2025

I'm planning on an overnight at Waterville the21st and arriving early the 22nd. Where have they stuck us late arrivals in the past?

I flew an EA-6B there in 1996 and suspect this will be different!
 
Honest question.
RV-10 cruises at 150 -170 KIAS. Slotting in at 2300' doing 135 KIAS seems appropriate.
Why sit in the 90 KIAS line from Endeavour bridge, while you can skip all that and slow down to 90 KIAS on downwind?
Because the NOTAM tells you to. PLEASE follow the NOTAM.
The NOTAM instructs the faster aircraft (Lancairs etc) to slow down to 135 KIAS anyway. So this RV-10 is not going to hold up any traffic it seems. Yes?
NOTAM 2025 page 5 instructs: "Faster aircraft use 135 knots and 2300' if needed for safety of flight".
If the intent of the Arrival procedure is to get as many aircraft, as efficient as possible safely to downwind, I would argue this RV-10 should stay out of 1800' lane and not further congest the 1800' Puckaway holding pattern :)
The 2300' traffic and the 1800' traffic have to be merged at Fisk. If you're at 2300' the controllers have to assume you can't do 90 knots, and that means that they need to have extra space in front of you from Fisk to the airport. There's only two paths you can take from Fisk, one is the east-west road and the other is the railroad tracks. They often have to split traffic that might have been a bit too close arriving at Fisk by sending one one way, and one the other... And if you show up at Fisk ± a minute from that, you're going back to Ripon.

Following the NOTAM, and flying at 90 knots and 1800 feet if you are *able*, will get the most traffic in as safely as possible. If you're unable to fly an RV-10 at 90 knots, you have absolutely no business flying into the busiest airport in the world, where normal minimum separation is reduced by half. Land somewhere else - Preferably in another state - and drive.

I'm planning on an overnight at Waterville the21st and arriving early the 22nd. Where have they stuck us late arrivals in the past?
Presumably you mean Watertown (RYV)? ;)

Arriving on Tuesday, you'll probably be *way* down in the South 40 if you're doing GAC.
 
Presumably you mean Watertown (RYV)? ;)

Arriving on Tuesday, you'll probably be *way* down in the South 40 if you're doing GAC.
Watertown is a terrible, terrible place to stay. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Ok, maybe I love it, but I don't want everyone stopping there and booking all of the rooms! The airport is next to our hotel and I book my room a year in advance. We go across the street for a nice meal and a margarita as big as your face, then enjoy a short flight into KOSH in the morning. One year some local friends flew with us. She laughed when she got her margarita... "you weren't kidding, it is as big as your face!".
 
Presumably you mean Watertown (RYV)? ;)

Arriving on Tuesday, you'll probably be *way* down in the South 40 if you're doing GAC.
Yep Watertown! Good news on decent Mexican there and margaritas are medicinal by keeping scurvy away. I'm at the Super 8.

I'll have signs for N40 and see where they send me
 
Following the NOTAM, and flying at 90 knots and 1800 feet if you are *able*, will get the most traffic in as safely as possible. If you're unable to fly an RV-10 at 90 knots, you have absolutely no business flying into the busiest airport in the world, where normal minimum separation is reduced by half. Land somewhere else - Preferably in another state - and drive.

I am SO glad I wasn't drinking a soft drink when I read that ... it'd have come out my nose laughing so hard :)
 
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Watertown is a terrible, terrible place to stay. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

Ok, maybe I love it, but I don't want everyone stopping there and booking all of the rooms! The airport is next to our hotel and I book my room a year in advance. We go across the street for a nice meal and a margarita as big as your face, then enjoy a short flight into KOSH in the morning. One year some local friends flew with us. She laughed when she got her margarita... "you weren't kidding, it is as big as your face!".
Cool! El Mariachi? Watertown is close enough that I can kinda justify going there for dinner and then drive home on the back roads should that become necessary for some reason. :goofy:

There are lots of great places to stop in WI, but Watertown is definitely one of the better ones in terms of not requiring ground transportation (which is good, 'cuz I don't think they have any). Food and hotels are within pretty easy walking distance.

I am SO glad I wasn't drinking a soft drink when I read that ... it'd have come out my nose laughing so hard :)
I was only partially kidding. If you draw a line from Green Bay southwest to maybe La Crosse, most of the airports south of that line in Wisconsin are also pretty busy during the show.

After the 2017 "Great American Solar Eclipse" someone did an animation of all of the airplanes going to/from the path of totality that was really cool. I wish someone would do that for Oshkosh.
 
How is laundry service at Airventure? I'll be in HBC, not sure how far or where I will have to carry things, want to pack appropriately. how crowded do things get at laundromats? Are there any easy solutions for drying things like towels? I've looked at my low wing set up and tent and can't figure that out. I'm willing to wash the previous days clothes whilst showering if need be but not sure about drying them.
 
I usually camp in the North 40. I’ve gone to this laundromat just north of the field.

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As noted you can use that laundromat which you can access through the gate near Friar Tucks. You can ride the shuttle bus or the Homebuilt Welcome Wagon to that gate. There’s also a laundromat in Camp Scholler located at the West Camp Store which is open 24/7 during the week of AirVenture. Easier just to bring a weeks worth of clothes. As for drying towels we just rotated the prop horizontal and clipped them to it. They have to be secured somehow otherwise they will blow off.
 
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For years I didn't do any laundry there. I just brought enough stuff. Our little volunteer group has one of the members gather up everybody's laundry and she takes it up to the laundramat for us and brings it back (unfolded).
 
For years I didn't do any laundry there. I just brought enough stuff. Our little volunteer group has one of the members gather up everybody's laundry and she takes it up to the laundramat for us and brings it back (unfolded).
I won't be folding my laundry either
 
How is laundry service at Airventure? I'll be in HBC, not sure how far or where I will have to carry things, want to pack appropriately. how crowded do things get at laundromats? Are there any easy solutions for drying things like towels? I've looked at my low wing set up and tent and can't figure that out. I'm willing to wash the previous days clothes whilst showering if need be but not sure about drying them.
Drying towels, t-shirts, socks, etc? A couple of clothes pins and hang 'em from the prop.
 
I usually camp in the North 40. I’ve gone to this laundromat just north of the field.

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This place has a drop off service that’s the best thing since sliced bread. Bring in your stuff in the morning, get it washed and folded later in the day. Oshkosh is usually the first week of an annual two week vacation - so it’s great to get everything washed.
 
My first year, and I'm staying at Ripon dorms - no rooms left at U of W Oshkosh
Bit of good luck. I just got a dorm room that opened up at UW Oskhosh, so I'm a lot closer than staying at Ripon college.

Started studying the 30 page NOTAM, and also ordered a printed copy from EAA to study / highlight, etc. some more. It's all starting to make more sense now. Still digging on the simple things, like "how does someone get fuel?". A month away...
 
Bit of good luck. I just got a dorm room that opened up at UW Oskhosh, so I'm a lot closer than staying at Ripon college.

Started studying the 30 page NOTAM, and also ordered a printed copy from EAA to study / highlight, etc. some more. It's all starting to make more sense now. Still digging on the simple things, like "how does someone get fuel?". A month away...
Remember that you only need to know like 30% of the notam. It's less intimidating that way. But know the 30% that is relevant to you like the back of your hand!
 
Still digging on the simple things, like "how does someone get fuel?". A month away...
When you register your aircraft parking, you'll get a fuel card to hang from your prop. There's fuel trucks running up and down all of the parking/camping areas during the show. They'll see your card and fill your order-usually within 24 hrs of you hanging the card. You can pay at one of 2 "fuel shacks" or you can get their number and just call them. I've got the number in my phone and will try to remember to post it here. Conversely many folks fuel up at closer airports enroute so they don't need fuel at Osh. I've always just gotten mine at Osh without issue.
 
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Started studying the 30 page NOTAM, and also ordered a printed copy from EAA to study / highlight, etc. some more. It's all starting to make more sense now.

It's amazing to me how many experienced, competent pilots I have met who avoid going because of anxiety over the arrival. It's really not that difficult. You'll love it.
 
When you register your aircraft parking, you'll get a fuel card to hang from your prop.
Register parking? Great, ANOTHER thing to figure out how to do... :biggrin:
 
Remember that you only need to know like 30% of the notam. It's less intimidating that way. But know the 30% that is relevant to you like the back of your hand!

And even that 30% is not as complicated as it seems. Listen to ATIS, switch to approach, go to the start point, fly the remaining waypoints, turn where they tell you at Fisk, switch to Tower, land where they tell you, turn off, show your sign, and follow the ground guides.
 
Register parking? Great, ANOTHER thing to figure out how to do... :biggrin:
Walk to the booth in your camping area. Pay the arm band and parking fee. Anyone you see can point you in the right direction. Other than the cost, it is painless.
 
Register parking? Great, ANOTHER thing to figure out how to do... :biggrin:
To be honest, I'm not totally sure how GA parking works as far as registration. I just assumed it is the same as it is for us homebuilts where you register whether you park or camp, the only difference being if you park there's no cost and no camping creationals to display. So maybe if you're only parking there's no registration requirement but safe bet you can always ask the marhallers who park you. Also you can wave down a fuel truck (they typically have spare fuel cards) or go to the fuel shack, N40 Registration, or Homebuilt HQ on the flight line to get a card. I'm sure Vintage and S40 have someplace to go as well I'm just not familiar with how the operate. Flyingron can probably set up straight on the process.
 
where is better area to park in, exp or cert? I can do both, technically.... and may have good choice as getting there early. I like above advice being near showers, but what about access to most demos and tents! EAA did an article on our plane some years back, maybe we can get a more favorable spot if ask.
 
And even that 30% is not as complicated as it seems. Listen to ATIS, switch to approach, go to the start point, fly the remaining waypoints, turn where they tell you at Fisk, switch to Tower, land where they tell you, turn off, show your sign, and follow the ground guides.
Rejoin and holding locations should also be part of the 30%. Don't want to be learning that in the air.
 
Here's the fuel phone number. The N40 and S40 fuel shacks are located in the Red Circles on the map. The aircraft registration for N40 is right across the street for the shack. Not sure about S40 but it's got to be nearby the S40 fuel shack.
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where is better area to park in, exp or cert? I can do both, technically.... and may have good choice as getting there early. I like above advice being near showers, but what about access to most demos and tents! EAA did an article on our plane some years back, maybe we can get a more favorable spot if ask.
Unless you're parking by friends, HBC/HBP will put you closer to the E-AB action by a wide margin. Vintage is the closest to show center by a narrow margin over HBC. The grounds map (a snippet I posted above) is available here although it's still last years version but good enough for you to make a plan off of: https://www.eaa.org/airventure/plan-your-eaa-airventure-trip/map
 
The 1st webinar is tonight @ 7pm CDT. If you're brand new you really want to attend/watch the replay later. Everyone should attend/watch it based on the retardation we see in the arrival every year.

Tips for Flying Into EAA AirVenture 2025 | Qualifies for FAA WINGS credit
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 2025, 7 P.M. CDT
Presenter: Fred Stadler

Learn all about the 2025 AirVenture NOTICE arrival procedures. This presentation will be especially helpful for someone who has not flown into AirVenture before. EAA’s volunteer NOTICE Chairman, Fred Stadler, describes FAA required procedures and shares useful tips for reducing pilot workload when flying into Oshkosh for AirVenture 2025. Qualifies for FAA WINGS credit.
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where is better area to park in, exp or cert? I can do both, technically.... and may have good choice as getting there early. I like above advice being near showers, but what about access to most demos and tents! EAA did an article on our plane some years back, maybe we can get a more favorable spot if ask.
There's no such thing as EXPERIMENTAL vs CERTIFIED parking.

There is HOMEBUILT PARKING which your plane DOES NOT QUALIFY for. It has to be EAB to park there.

The parking available to you is GENERAL AVIATION PARKING (which is split into the North 40... along the sides of 9/27 and the SOUTH 40, which is way down south of Vintage near the airport south boundary) and VINTAGE (since your plane was manufactured before the end of 1970).
 
I don’t know what he flies, just going off what he posted where he said he was eligible.
He said in an earlier post he has an experimental certificate Cessna. That doesn't get him into HBC.
 
He said in an earlier post he has an experimental certificate Cessna. That doesn't get him into HBC.
Could be an EAB 172. Not saying his is, just noting that I didn't see anywhere that described how his ended up experimental, so it's possible.
 
VINTAGE (since your plane was manufactured before the end of 1970).

So does the cutoff for VINTAGE progress every so often? IOW will my 1978 Bellanca become eligible someday, or am I forever cursed to be modern?
 
The 1st webinar is tonight @ 7pm CDT. If you're brand new you really want to attend/watch the replay later. Everyone should attend/watch it based on the retardation we see in the arrival every year.

Tips for Flying Into EAA AirVenture 2025 | Qualifies for FAA WINGS credit
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18, 2025, 7 P.M. CDT
Presenter: Fred Stadler

Learn all about the 2025 AirVenture NOTICE arrival procedures. This presentation will be especially helpful for someone who has not flown into AirVenture before. EAA’s volunteer NOTICE Chairman, Fred Stadler, describes FAA required procedures and shares useful tips for reducing pilot workload when flying into Oshkosh for AirVenture 2025. Qualifies for FAA WINGS credit.
REGISTER HERE
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