Oshkosh 2025

I've done it a few times. Your plan isn't bad except for the timing. You won't be in North Fon Du Lac, but all the good spots are long gone by then too. @flyingcheesehead will probably be along to say how he does it now, but I'm pretty sure it requires advance planning.
Well i know I wont be getting anything in pauls woods, since my wife seems to believe that i shouldnt spend almost a mortgage payment to have a slightly better campsite for the week... :dunno: but in 23 i got in saturday morning and was by the south market, last year i got there friday and was by lot s on schaick (which i'm not complaining about, it wasnt a bad spot i just want to walk bike
less in scholler) so i'll settle for anything i can find closer than that this year.
 
If you’re flying in why not camp with your plane instead of Scholler? Your plan is fine but having camped with my plane and in Scholler I much prefer being with the plane.
Interesting. Having done plenty of both, I much prefer Scholler. More facilities, you can have campfires, you can ride around on a tiki bar being towed by a Jeep, you can have your own wheels to get places off field for supplies, and if you have a travel trailer or motor home you've got the best of all worlds. Well, the best is a motor home in Scholler AND your plane in GAP, but...

I've done it a few times. Your plan isn't bad except for the timing. You won't be in North Fon Du Lac, but all the good spots are long gone by then too. @flyingcheesehead will probably be along to say how he does it now, but I'm pretty sure it requires advance planning.
I camp with a group that pays the $$$ to go in about 2.5 weeks early. A couple of them go in and stake out our compound and then we all come in over the weekend. It's enough of a group to get about two thirds of a "city block".

It's also gotten significantly more difficult to get a site that size. Prior to 2020 we were at 35th and Schaick and it was an easy walk to the entrance, but since 2021 we've been out in the 101 woods between Stits and 19th which pretty much requires a bike at least. Attendance at the show has gotten pretty crazy, making it full despite EAA's acquisitions of land for both airplane and non-airplane camping. Last year, Scholler even filled up midweek and they rushed to mow some of the newly acquired land to get people in. I don't think Scholler has ever filled up before.

So, if you get there a day earlier than you did last year, you'll probably get a worse spot! A couple more days early and you might do as well or better.
 
Interesting. Having done plenty of both, I much prefer Scholler. More facilities, you can have campfires, you can ride around on a tiki bar being towed by a Jeep, you can have your own wheels to get places off field for supplies, and if you have a travel trailer or motor home you've got the best of all worlds. Well, the best is a motor home in Scholler AND your plane in GAP, but...
There are no right or wrong answers here and all of the areas have their pros and cons depending where your actual site is, to be sure. My perspective was from flying in and tent camping. I'm a homebuilt welcome wagon driver so get to see all of the camping areas and have a good feel for what's what. That said, we still fly in but now camp in a rented RV in Sleepy Hollow as we value our comfort more and more as we get older. If we still tent camped, we'd be in HBC for sure and not Scholler as campfires and towed tiki bars have no appeal neither does all the vehicular traffic. Don't get me wrong, we do our fair share of partying, but that can be done all over the airport, not just in Scholler. YMMV....
 
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Let's see...

1 year staying in the dorms
2 years camping with the plane in the north 40
5 years or so camping with the plane in vintage
1 year camping in Scholler with our EAA chapter
18 years camping in the woods (with or without the plane) behind the hangar cafe.
 
Let's see...

1 year staying in the dorms
2 years camping with the plane in the north 40
5 years or so camping with the plane in vintage
1 year camping in Scholler with our EAA chapter
18 years camping in the woods (with or without the plane) behind the hangar cafe.
I always camp in Vintage. There was one years I got stuck in the North 40 because the grounds were too wet and they wouldn't let us into Vintage. I hated every minute of it!

If I wasn't going to camp with my plane, I've always looked at the tents in the woods by the hangar cafe and thought, that's the place to be! Close to the action, but with amazing shade!
 
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Hi everyone — I’m an FAA PPL from Portugal and will be in the U.S. in time for Oshkosh 2025. I work with FlySto (flight data analysis) and would love to tag along with someone flying there this year. Happy to help with planning, logistics, or debriefing.

If you might have an open seat or just want to connect, feel free to DM me!

P.S. I plan to camp in Scholler, so I’m all in for the full experience!
 
I have a question about amenities. I am going this year and staying at the university. I don't think it opens until Sunday. I am considering flying. I don't want to fly in during the mass arrival. I was thinking about flying in Friday.

Question - when are the portable showers and bathrooms usually set up? Would they be on site as of Friday? I could spend two nights in the plane, or under a wing and survive on MREs. I wouldn't be renting a car, so off field travel would be by bus or ride share.

Is this the best plan? Could I find a reasonably priced hotel for the two nights before Airventure? Does the uni open up early?
North of the airfield (walking distance) is a strip mall with a Target, US Bank, grocery store and others. There are a few restaurants/fast-foods nearby, in the mall and not far. Thumbing yoru way around isn't unreasonable.
 
I have a question about amenities. I am going this year and staying at the university. I don't think it opens until Sunday. I am considering flying. I don't want to fly in during the mass arrival. I was thinking about flying in Friday.

Question - when are the portable showers and bathrooms usually set up? Would they be on site as of Friday? I could spend two nights in the plane, or under a wing and survive on MREs. I wouldn't be renting a car, so off field travel would be by bus or ride share.

Is this the best plan? Could I find a reasonably priced hotel for the two nights before Airventure? Does the uni open up early?
Lots of people are there early. Many of the bathhouses open up on Friday in the N40 (last I checked). Trams and stuff don't usually start running yet but thumbing a ride is completely reasonable. I don't know when the Uni opens up. There probably won't be food vendors operating on Friday but they are usually a few open on Sat and Sunday in years past.
 
If I wasn't going to camp with my plane, I've always looked at the tents in the woods by the hangar cafe and thought, that's the place to be! Close to the action, but with amazing shade!
And probably the most expensive camping you'll ever do, since it fills up almost immediately you have to be there on day 1 that Scholler opens, and that'll cost you $840 or more...
 
And probably the most expensive camping you'll ever do, since it fills up almost immediately you have to be there on day 1 that Scholler opens, and that'll cost you $840 or more...
The tent camping area?
 
The tent camping area?
Depends on what you consider the tent camping area since that’s not really a thing. Scholler fills up East to West starting in late June when Scholler opens. The choice spots in Paul’s Wood and maybe the 101 Woods go the first day and a lot of the adjacent spots are gone by the end of the first week. It’s luck of the draw after that. After Friday before the show it starts filling up fast and finding any spot East of Stits is probably unlikely.
 
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Depends on what you consider the tent camping area since that’s not really a thing. Scholler fills up East to West starting in late June when Scholler opens. The choice spots in Paul’s Wood and maybe the 101 Woods go the first day and a lot of the adjacent spots are gone by the end of the first week. It’s luck of the draw after that. After Friday before the show it starts filling up fast and finding any spot East of Stits is probably unlikely.
Ah. I think we’re talking about two different areas. This area is only tents, inside the fence.
 
I always camp in Vintage. There was one years I got stuck in the North 40 because the grounds were too wet and they wouldn't let us into Vintage. I hated every minute of it!
I've only ever camped in the North 40. In 2019 (my first year flying in), I flew my mid-60's PA32 up and -could- have camped in Vintage, but for whatever reason picked the N40. Got a spot within rock throwing distance from red shower house. All years since, I've gone up in planes that don't qualify for Vintage. All but one year ended up similarly within stones throw from either red or green shower houses.

Pros/cons, I get that Vintage is more "show center". Much shorter walk back to tent after the night shows at the ultralight field. But, I'd be sorta 'trapped' there. If I needed to get off field it's a good walk. N40, I can bike/scooter into town for food/supplies/etc. I'm curious about the bathroom/shower situation in Vintage.

Two more months!!!
 
I've only ever camped in the North 40. In 2019 (my first year flying in), I flew my mid-60's PA32 up and -could- have camped in Vintage, but for whatever reason picked the N40. Got a spot within rock throwing distance from red shower house. All years since, I've gone up in planes that don't qualify for Vintage. All but one year ended up similarly within stones throw from either red or green shower houses.

Pros/cons, I get that Vintage is more "show center". Much shorter walk back to tent after the night shows at the ultralight field. But, I'd be sorta 'trapped' there. If I needed to get off field it's a good walk. N40, I can bike/scooter into town for food/supplies/etc. I'm curious about the bathroom/shower situation in Vintage.

Two more months!!!
People love the N40, it just wasn't for me. I report to the photo building every day, which is next to the tower. That's quite a hike from the N40 and it gets almost impossible to get on a tram later in the day.

I hated the showers in the N40, but have since found out I was probably next to the worst ones. In Vintage, we have the showers in trailers, so you get your own shower, although at 4AM when I shower there's nobody else there anyway!

But mostly, like any other area, I've met a lot of Oshkosh friends in Vintage from camping there year after year. And yeah, being at show center, sitting under the wing of my 182 in the shade during the airshow isn't a bad deal either!
 
I've only ever camped in the North 40. In 2019 (my first year flying in), I flew my mid-60's PA32 up and -could- have camped in Vintage, but for whatever reason picked the N40. Got a spot within rock throwing distance from red shower house. All years since, I've gone up in planes that don't qualify for Vintage. All but one year ended up similarly within stones throw from either red or green shower houses.

Pros/cons, I get that Vintage is more "show center". Much shorter walk back to tent after the night shows at the ultralight field. But, I'd be sorta 'trapped' there. If I needed to get off field it's a good walk. N40, I can bike/scooter into town for food/supplies/etc. I'm curious about the bathroom/shower situation in Vintage.

Two more months!!!
I've done N40, Scholler, Vintage, Warbirds.

Vintage is by far my favorite. Not because of the showers, but the showers are also the best. The vibe in Vintage is awesome. The planes are awesome. Sitting under your wing and being able to see and hear the show is awesome. The yodeler is awesome. Tall Pines cafe is awesome.

Unfortunately, having been built in 2010, my plane is a few decades away from qualifying. So I've been camping in warbirds for a few years. It has the same community benefits as Vintage and cool planes, but otherwise Vintage wins for sure.

I live close enough that it's as easy to drive in as to fly in, so I haven't brought my maule in like a decade, but if I were flying in N40 is definitely good enough to have fun. If I had to camp in Scholler that would probably be the only place that I'd just skip air venture rather than suffer through. But I've definitely been spoiled!
 
The tent camping area?
Ah. I think we’re talking about two different areas. This area is only tents, inside the fence.
I thought you were talking about Paul's Woods. Where are you talking about?

Regardless, the camping rates are the same everywhere unless you're paying extra for hookups: $30/day starting on the day you arrive/stake out your site. So yes, I expect those spots *especially* are $840 or more.

Pros/cons, I get that Vintage is more "show center". Much shorter walk back to tent after the night shows at the ultralight field. But, I'd be sorta 'trapped' there. If I needed to get off field it's a good walk.
Buses and trams are right there, though, and you can catch a lift to the Bus Park and get a lift to places off field. I'm not sure where they're doing Uber pickups, but that's a thing now too.

N40, I can bike/scooter into town for food/supplies/etc. I'm curious about the bathroom/shower situation in Vintage.
Vintage has good showers, from what I've heard. I've seen the trailers there, so I expect it's like the "hidden" shower trailers in the North 40 and a few other places.

I hated the showers in the N40, but have since found out I was probably next to the worst ones.
Red shower building are the worst ones. I've been coming to Airventure long enough that they were the only ones when I first started!

I've done N40, Scholler, Vintage, Warbirds.

I live close enough that it's as easy to drive in as to fly in, so I haven't brought my maule in like a decade, but if I were flying in N40 is definitely good enough to have fun. If I had to camp in Scholler that would probably be the only place that I'd just skip air venture rather than suffer through.
Again, interesting... I like the ability to have my own wheels there, I like being able to have a trailer or motor home so I can sleep in comfort and have my own bathroom and shower, and after doing N40 and Scholler because I don't own the right kind of airplane for Vintage or Warbirds, I choose Scholler.

But, I'd rather walk from Fond du Lac than miss the show entirely.
 
Again, interesting... I like the ability to have my own wheels there, I like being able to have a trailer or motor home so I can sleep in comfort and have my own bathroom and shower, and after doing N40 and Scholler because I don't own the right kind of airplane for Vintage or Warbirds, I choose Scholler.
Yeah, that's why I drive in. I like to get out to a supper club or two during the week and the ease of making a supply run if necessary. I just have my wheels in warbirds instead of scholler.
 
If I were to fly in and arrive Thursday or Friday, do I need a reserved spot for the airplane? I would camp with the plane until Sunday. I have a spot at the dorms for Sunday through the end. I have no problem sleeping in the plane, or under a wing for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. How do I make those arrangements?
 
If I were to fly in and arrive Thursday or Friday, do I need a reserved spot for the airplane? I would camp with the plane until Sunday. I have a spot at the dorms for Sunday through the end. I have no problem sleeping in the plane, or under a wing for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. How do I make those arrangements?
Unle$$ you are re$erving a $pot with Ba$ler on their ramp, there are no "reserved" spots for GAC (general aviation camping, North 40, Vintage, Homebuilt, South 40, etc) or GAP (general aviation parking). I've never done GAP which is where people put their plane when they have other accommodations. I'm not even sure where on the field that is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no camping/sleeping with your plane in GAP.

If you need to sleep by your plane for the first few nights, then you'd need to be in GAC. What might raise the ire of some people is for a highly valued GAC spot in the N40 to be unattended for most of the show when there are 10K other people that would love that spot. I've seen it done, though.
 
If I were to fly in and arrive Thursday or Friday, do I need a reserved spot for the airplane? I would camp with the plane until Sunday. I have a spot at the dorms for Sunday through the end. I have no problem sleeping in the plane, or under a wing for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. How do I make those arrangements?
There is not really any such concept as "reserve parking spaces" in the bulk of the show. The FBOs have a few $$$ hard surface parking. Other than that it's pretty much first-come first-serve. It used to be that they let you stake out space (provided you paid for it) and allow the plane to arrive later. At least in Vintage, they've been putting an end to that.

The good news is that the EAA has a goal (which I don't think they made) to not turn anybody away. They have added more and more space, and they're moving things they can away from the aircraft parking area to open up more space.
 
If I were to fly in and arrive Thursday or Friday, do I need a reserved spot for the airplane? I would camp with the plane until Sunday. I have a spot at the dorms for Sunday through the end. I have no problem sleeping in the plane, or under a wing for Thursday, Friday and Saturday. How do I make those arrangements?
You can't reserve any aircraft camping in advance nor can you preorder camping credentials like you can for Scholler. https://www.eaa.org/airventure/plan...trip/eaa-camping-and-lodging/airplane-camping When you land, IAW with NOTAM, you'll hold up a sign https://www.eaa.org/airventure/eaa-fly-in-flying-to-oshkosh/ground-operations to show the marshallers where you want to park and they'll direct you accordingly although if you arrive on Thursday before the show you might need to work with Ground to get taxi instructions depending on exactly when you land and the level of volunteer staffing at that point. So it would behoove you to understand where the parking/camping areas are and the taxi routes to them. If you camp the fee is a 3-day minimum but you pay for the whole week in advance and get refunded for the days you don't use.
 
If you need to sleep by your plane for the first few nights, then you'd need to be in GAC. What might raise the ire of some people is for a highly valued GAC spot in the N40 to be unattended for most of the show when there are 10K other people that would love that spot. I've seen it done, though.
I'm not sure there is a separate parking area in GA anymore. You're free to camp anywhere, but they tend to put parkers further from the facilities. In all the places on the field (well the regular spaces), you don't pay to park. All camping, anywhere, on the grounds is the same fee (other than the Scholler hookup spots). This is due to an agreement with the Oskosh lodging folks.
 
if you arrive on Thursday before the show you might need to work with Ground to get taxi instructions depending on exactly when you land and the level of volunteer staffing at that point.
Prior to Friday (before the show), there are no EAA marshallers allowed on the taxiways, so indeed they will ask you where you want to go. Once you get turned off into the parking area, there will be EAA volunteers to guide you to a space.
 
I'm not sure there is a separate parking area in GA anymore. You're free to camp anywhere, but they tend to put parkers further from the facilities. In all the places on the field (well the regular spaces), you don't pay to park. All camping, anywhere, on the grounds is the same fee (other than the Scholler hookup spots). This is due to an agreement with the Oskosh lodging folks.
Not 100% sure but my observation over the past 4 years of driving around the whole airport is on the north side of 9-27 about mid-field heading east towards Basler is all GAP and no GAC.
 
They start filling in GAP from the terminal going toward the Hilton. The GAC comes around the end of the runway heading toward the terminal. There's no defined boundary between the two. There's just fewer toilets and showers the closer you get to the terminal. I've seen the odd tent in there. As long as you pay for your camping if you camp, nobody will care.
 
They start filling in GAP from the terminal going toward the Hilton. The GAC comes around the end of the runway heading toward the terminal. There's no defined boundary between the two. There's just fewer toilets and showers the closer you get to the terminal. I've seen the odd tent in there. As long as you pay for your camping if you camp, nobody will care.
They're pretty strict on no camping the closer you get close to Kermit Weeks hangar. I think they've extended it some, but I don't think they allow anyone to camp in the areas I've highlighted in red. If they do, it might be the western (bottom) portion of it.

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Unle$$ you are re$erving a $pot with Ba$ler on their ramp, there are no "reserved" spots for GAC (general aviation camping, North 40, Vintage, Homebuilt, South 40, etc) or GAP (general aviation parking). I've never done GAP which is where people put their plane when they have other accommodations. I'm not even sure where on the field that is. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no camping/sleeping with your plane in GAP.
Correct on all counts. IME, "GAP" gets stuffed in several areas that are undesirable/disallowed for camping for various reasons, and only the marshallers really know the rules.

If you need to sleep by your plane for the first few nights, then you'd need to be in GAC. What might raise the ire of some people is for a highly valued GAC spot in the N40 to be unattended for most of the show when there are 10K other people that would love that spot. I've seen it done, though.
This... One possibility would be to fire up during the day you're done camping, preferably late morning after you pack up your site, and begin taxiing out from your GAC spot, and throw a "GAP" sign in your window and taxi to whatever new spot you're directed to.

It used to be that they let you stake out space (provided you paid for it) and allow the plane to arrive later. At least in Vintage, they've been putting an end to that.
They put an end to that in the North 40 long ago.

The good news is that the EAA has a goal (which I don't think they made) to not turn anybody away. They have added more and more space, and they're moving things they can away from the aircraft parking area to open up more space.
Their main issue is that attendance has been going crazy enough that everything fills up as fast as they add and clear the space. I used to like to bring the plane up and put it in GAP even when I was camping in Scholler. However, since it's only a 1-1.5 hour drive to get to it anyway, the years that the field filled up I didn't bring it. A couple years ago it seemed like they'd cleared enough room and I brought the plane in, but I ended up with my tail against the south fence of the airport, so there certainly isn't an excess of space. I think it was nearly 40 minutes of taxiing to get down there, but I got a good laugh when I was well down past the south end of 18/36 and someone had posted a sign next to the taxiway that said "Welcome to Fond du Lac!" :rofl:

I'm not sure there is a separate parking area in GA anymore. You're free to camp anywhere, but they tend to put parkers further from the facilities. In all the places on the field (well the regular spaces), you don't pay to park. All camping, anywhere, on the grounds is the same fee (other than the Scholler hookup spots). This is due to an agreement with the Oskosh lodging folks.
They start filling in GAP from the terminal going toward the Hilton. The GAC comes around the end of the runway heading toward the terminal. There's no defined boundary between the two. There's just fewer toilets and showers the closer you get to the terminal. I've seen the odd tent in there. As long as you pay for your camping if you camp, nobody will care.
I'm not sure this is true, I think @Lowflynjack has it right below. You're definitely handled differently, and there's definitely no camping down near the terminal. The bus doesn't even go that far, it turns around at the fire station. I don't think there's any camping east of the green dot/taxiways B3&N4.

They're pretty strict on no camping the closer you get close to Kermit Weeks hangar. I think they've extended it some, but I don't think they allow anyone to camp in the areas I've highlighted in red. If they do, it might be the western (bottom) portion of it.

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@lprellwitz and I will be returning this year, after taking a year off! We'll be staying in an RV in Camp Bacon (if ya know, ya know) and plan to be there from Saturday through the following Sunday.
I have a sad announcement, however. We will not have our Jambalaya/Chili Night this year. Afraid we're not ready to resurrect that! We really enjoyed having a hundred friends show up at the last one in 2023, though!

(And we are already signed up for 6Y9, too!)
 
Thank You for sharing this information. Hopefully the infrastructure will be completed before the big show. Nobody wants to shower from a garden hose!!
 
For those of you driving in, there are some improvments for parking, and a new camping area called Camp Scholler Southeast. Sorry if this has already been discussed!
Click here for EAA story: Parking and Camping Updates for 2025
Interesting. From what I heard, they weren't intending to have the "South Ripple" or "Scholler Southeast" areas open for a couple of years yet, and quickly opened them up when Scholler filled up on Wednesday last year.

Having the new bus to the Purple Lot as well as having the new camping areas further south should alleviate some of the traffic and pedestrian congestion that happens in certain areas at certain times such as the night airshows ending. However, it is going to create more traffic for the "back ways" in, and they should probably be um, "monetarily encouraging" the local governments to rebuild/widen Knapp, Waupun, and Ripple. Might be time to expand Poberezny Rd from 3 lanes to 4 as well.

Thank You for sharing this information. Hopefully the infrastructure will be completed before the big show. Nobody wants to shower from a garden hose!!
Hopefully they'll at least have some shower trailers in both areas this year, and get the facilities more built out.

Even having gone to the show for 20+ straight years now, it's hard to believe how big it's gotten. When I last flew in 2 years ago, I was right along County Highway N. Several years earlier, I'd been in GAP near the terminal. Those two airplane parking spots are literally three MILES apart from each other as the crow flies.
 
There's definitely no camping down near the terminal. The bus doesn't even go that far, it turns around at the fire station. I don't think there's any camping east of the green dot/taxiways B3&N4.
Now that the NOTAM is out, it clearly says no camping east of TWY B3. So it looks like they're allowing areas N1 & N3, but N4 and east won't be parking only. This has been their normal approach since that area would be past the fireline for the airshow.
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Now that the NOTAM is out, it clearly says no camping east of TWY B3. So it looks like they're allowing areas N1 & N3, but N4 and east won't be parking only. This has been their normal approach since that area would be past the fireline for the airshow.
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Yup, exactly. That fits with what they've done in the past as well.
 

Some of the 2025 updates include:
  • Maintaining 90 knots until entering downwind at Oshkosh
  • New depiction of gravel pit and the beginning of the descent over the gravel pit (any portion) when arriving to Runway 27
  • Addition of a QR code on the cover that directs to the EAA “Flying In” webpage
  • References to mass arrival schedule, transient helicopter operations, and the EAA Seaplane Base.
  • The ATC-assignable transition points approaching Oshkosh from the west that will ease holding and congestion will again be in effect in 2025. These points are at Endeavor Bridge, Puckaway Lake, and Green Lake. They will be announced on the arrival ATIS when ATC activates them at times of highest traffic flows.
 
Some of the 2025 updates include:
  • The ATC-assignable transition points approaching Oshkosh from the west that will ease holding and congestion will again be in effect in 2025. These points are at Endeavor Bridge, Puckaway Lake, and Green Lake. They will be announced on the arrival ATIS when ATC activates them at times of highest traffic flows.
Those points aren't new. I'm not sure I understand what changed here. Maybe the "from the west"?
 
*will again be in effect in 2025*
Just weird it's listed as an update! I thought maybe there was a slight change. I've only had to use Endeavor once and it was when a lot of us got stuck out during Sloshkosh and we all converged as soon as the airport opened!
 
Some of the 2025 updates include:
  • Maintaining 90 knots until entering downwind at Oshkosh
Interesting that this is a "change"... I think at one point it said something about maintaining that speed until as late in the approach as possible, but that particular notation on page 8 wasn't there last year.

Seems like it would be obvious that if you slow down right after crossing Fisk that you'd be stacking people up right on your tail, but I guess the obvious isn't always obvious to everyone.
 
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