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I have an outlet in my bathroom that is GFCI.
I want to daisy chain an outlet off it to the other side of the wall.

Do I need to buy a GFCI outlet or does the fact that the one to which it is daisy chained is GFCI make it GFCI as it is on the same circuit?
Any special considerations that would be different than non GFCI outlets?
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I have an outlet in my bathroom that is GFCI.
I want to daisy chain an outlet off it to the other side of the wall.

Do I need to buy a GFCI outlet or does the fact that the one to which it is daisy chained is GFCI make it GFCI as it is on the same circuit?
Any special considerations that would be different than non GFCI outlets?
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You only need one GFCI so long as it’s the first receptacle in the chain.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I have an outlet in my bathroom that is GFCI.
I want to daisy chain an outlet off it to the other side of the wall.

Do I need to buy a GFCI outlet or does the fact that the one to which it is daisy chained is GFCI make it GFCI as it is on the same circuit?
Any special considerations that would be different than non GFCI outlets?
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In my Kitchen, only the first outlet in the chain is GFCI. Any issue beyond it in the circuit trips the GFCI. Just make sure you don’t overload the rating of the wire.
 
GFCI protects all the circuits downstream...
 
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As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.

The things you learn...
 
midwestpa24 said:
As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.

The things you learn...
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How the **** you s'posda make bath toast??????
What a stupid rule.


Also just measured. closest outlet to the tub is 4 feet. But built in 03. Also in Texas where I don't know the rules.
 
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midwestpa24 said:
As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.

The things you learn...
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And dumb rules like that are why we have to use extension cords in the bathroom....
 
midwestpa24 said:
As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.

The things you learn...
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There are bathrooms that are six feet wide? Fancy...
 
ja_user said:
GFCI protects all the circuits downstream...
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This.

Of added benefit, I think most GFCI receptacles come with a tiny pamphlet that shows various installation options, of which this is one. For example:

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midwestpa24 said:
As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.
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Just wait until hair dryer and toaster makers start equipping with 7 foot cords.
 
eman1200 said:
Don’t stand in a full bathtub while installing the outlet.
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Another rule our electrician informed us of. My wife wanted a fancy hanging chandelier over her soaking tub. Code apparently does not allow a light fixture to hang within reaching distance of a person standing in the tub.

Building codes, taking all the fun out of life...
 
FastEddieB said:
This.

Of added benefit, I think most GFCI receptacles come with a tiny pamphlet that shows various installation options, of which this is one. For example:

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Who can trust that?? As we've established, GFCI's protect the downstream loads, but this illustration clearly shows the loads "upstream":
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Sheesh... :rolleyes:

:biggrin:
 
bbchien said:
I'd wire it to the hot side and install a second GFCI. WHy? The moisture will have that thing tripping all the time. Its' a BATHroom, after all. Guess how I learned that?
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Our master bathroom has the controlling gfci inside a closet.
 
Our current house, the GFCI is a breaker in the panel protecting the entire circuit. Sounds convenient, until it trips and you have to go down two flights of stairs to the basement to reset it, then back up two flights of stairs to the bathroom again.
 
midwestpa24 said:
As I am learning from our new home construction, codes don't allow for an outlet within 6 feet of the tub. Apparently that is the normal length of the cord of a hair dryer or toaster.

The things you learn...
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Apparently in my previous house I was not allowed to have an outlet in the Bathroom. The bathroom just wasn't big enough to get the outlet that far away from the tub.:)
 
midwestpa24 said:
Our current house, the GFCI is a breaker in the panel protecting the entire circuit. Sounds convenient, until it trips and you have to go down two flights of stairs to the basement to reset it, then back up two flights of stairs to the bathroom again.
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my version of that is the outside outlet is protected by the GFI outlet in the bathroom. So every time I forget to unplug the extension cord I might have plugged in outside it trips the GFI in the bathroom when it rains.

Brian
 
brcase said:
Apparently in my previous house I was not allowed to have an outlet in the Bathroom. The bathroom just wasn't big enough to get the outlet that far away from the tub.:)
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So THAT’S why the toilet was in the hallway!
 
brcase said:
my version of that is the outside outlet is protected by the GFI outlet in the bathroom. So every time I forget to unplug the extension cord I might have plugged in outside it trips the GFI in the bathroom when it rains.

Brian
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Before GFIs, but when I was a kid we discovered that my grandpa had wired the machine shed outlets onto the house bathroom circuits. Breaker tripped every time someone used a hair dryer, but only in the winter when the frost plug heater on the tractor was plugged in.
 
bbchien said:
I'd wire it to the hot side and install a second GFCI. WHy? The moisture will have that thing tripping all the time. Its' a BATHroom, after all. Guess how I learned that?
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If ambient humidity is tripping a GFCI, and you're not living in a swamp, something is wrong with it.
 
Breakers. GFCI. Psh.
I just wired the whole house in 8ga wiring, took out all the breakers, and went straight to the hots in the panel. Never worry about anything tripping. Have had several house fires when using the oven/range, but hey, no fumbling through the dark in the middle of the night.
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
I have an outlet in my bathroom that is GFCI.
I want to daisy chain an outlet off it to the other side of the wall.

Do I need to buy a GFCI outlet or does the fact that the one to which it is daisy chained is GFCI make it GFCI as it is on the same circuit?
Any special considerations that would be different than non GFCI outlets?
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You don’t need a GFI for the ‘downstream’ outlets. They are the ‘Load.’ The GFI it starts at are ‘Line’. You then wire the downstream outlet to the Load terminals. You’ll see when you look at the GFI outlet
 
EdFred said:
Breakers. GFCI. Psh.
I just wired the whole house in 8ga wiring, took out all the breakers, and went straight to the hots in the panel. Never worry about anything tripping. Have had several house fires when using the oven/range, but hey, no fumbling through the dark in the middle of the night.
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Reminds me of a Tiktok video showing some crazy wiring. The voice asks, "Who'd you say did your wiring?" An old lady responds, "Oh my grandson" The original voice says, "When did his house burn down?" The old lady responds, "About 2 years ago, how did you know his house burned down?"
 
SixPapaCharlie said:
How the **** you s'posda make bath toast??????
What a stupid rule.


Also just measured. closest outlet to the tub is 4 feet. But built in 03. Also in Texas where I don't know the rules.
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Jus' hardwire your bath toaster and kitchen hair dryer.
 
midwestpa24 said:
Our current house, the GFCI is a breaker in the panel protecting the entire circuit. Sounds convenient, until it trips and you have to go down two flights of stairs to the basement to reset it, then back up two flights of stairs to the bathroom again.
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Must be nice to live in a house with the breaker indoors! Our panel is outside. On the side of the house furthest from any door. Maybe 100 feet down a side deck from which I don't bother to shovel the snow in the winter. In a location furthest from the garage, in which I've set up my woodshop. The woodshop with the stationary tools that trip breakers with some regularity. I'm looking at you, bandsaw...
 
GaryM said:
Must be nice to live in a house with the breaker indoors! Our panel is outside. On the side of the house furthest from any door. Maybe 100 feet down a side deck from which I don't bother to shovel the snow in the winter. In a location furthest from the garage, in which I've set up my woodshop. The woodshop with the stationary tools that trip breakers with some regularity. I'm looking at you, bandsaw...
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And uphill both ways! :biggrin:
 
Get a GFCI breaker, eliminate the GFCI outlet
 
GoFly said:
Get a GFCI breaker, eliminate the GFCI outlet
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Depending on the size of the house and total number of circuits, having a GFI outlet may be far more flexible. If a kitchen has one outlet circuit, having non-GFI outlets "in front" of a GFI on the same circuit makes sure that compressors etc do not trip everything off. Same with multiple lights or outlets on a circuit shared by a bathroom.
 
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