Meowing on Guard- can it be stopped?

I don’t expect the FAA to engage in enforcement action;
I (almost) positively identified one of these clowns a while back due to the pronounced and distinct 400Hz whine on his comms.
My home set-up monitors guard, a few local CTAFs and a couple approach frequencies. Seconds after the meowing I hear a regional jet with the exact same background noise make a call to approach about leveling at some altitude below 10k. So much for sterile cockpit.
 
It seems to be an almost exclusively US phenomenon. I have flown a fair bit internationally, and have never heard 121.5 shenanigans outside of the US.
 
Are you guys hearing this stuff more often than I am? I’d say I only hear something every 2-3 flights hours on average which really doesn’t seem like that big of a deal.
VHF is good for what, 150nm, so perhaps there’s a greater density of idiots in the air out my way? Depending on the time of day, I’ll here guard mischief multiple times a flight.

(It’s not up for discussion that there are more idiots on the ground, in traffic, and in the halls of Congress, etc. around these parts).
 
It seems to be an almost exclusively US phenomenon. I have flown a fair bit internationally, and have never heard 121.5 shenanigans outside of the US.
Absolutely true. Radio discipline in general is magnitudes better in Canada and pretty much everywhere else.
 
Don't get me started!! Show me "Last Call" in the AIM or any AC related to Non Towered fields.

You may fly out of a sleepy Non Towered field, but getting in the habit of saying "last call" or even worse, CFIs that are teaching it, really do a disservice when flying into a busy field. The AIM specifically calls out that “Traffic in the area, please advise” is not a recognized Self−Announce Position and/or Intention phrase and should not be used under any condition. Maybe "Last Call" will be added soon.

LC provides information and doesn’t clog up the frequency, invoking a poll of all traffic is the opposite.
Now should you transmit your full tail number every time? Hopefully no one is close enough to see it. Normally I’m the only Mooney so I don’t bother with my tail number at all.
 
Try barking. Might scare off the cats.
Most effective line I ever heard was during the pandemic, before hiring picked up again. Still a bunch of meowing, until someone replied "I thought all the p*ssies got furloughed." Silence on guard for the rest of that flight.
 
I'm hearing it on 122.8 now which is already over saturated. If you meow on guard or CTAF you are a moron.
 
"...turning downwind rat meow."
"...turning base rat meow."
"...turning final rat meow."

Gonna buy some land, put a strip on it, and name the field Meow. Just for Brad.
"Meow traffic [stuff here]. Meow."
Ha ha, Just don’t use 121.5 as your CTAF.
 
Before worrying about this how about making more of a push to segregate airports using other frequencies. 122.80 is an absolute cluster among others that create a bigger safety of flight issue.
 
Before worrying about this how about making more of a push to segregate airports using other frequencies. 122.80 is an absolute cluster among others that create a bigger safety of flight issue.
That would probably result in a response something like, “If there wasn’t so much meowing and excessive verbiage, it would be fine. It’s the pilots’ fault.”
 
Are we not required to do this since 9/11? That is the only way I knew this was a thing, we are required now to monitor 121.5 if the radio is not used for anything else; it is not just a good idea.

News to me. Source?
 
I have a hunch that if we triangulate the meow calls as Brad suggests, we'll trace the source to an overworked PO'd center controller.....
 
I only tune in 121.5 on cross country flights, and in almost 20 years and 1100 hrs, I haven't heard a meow yet ...
 
"...turning downwind rat meow."
"...turning base rat meow."
"...turning final rat meow."

Gonna buy some land, put a strip on it, and name the field Meow. Just for Brad.
"Meow traffic [stuff here]. Meow."
Literally, lol
 
I feel for the controllers that monitor guard constantly. At least we can turn down the volume.

I’m all for the death penalty for the meowers.
 
Radio discipline in general is magnitudes better in Canada and pretty much everywhere else.
I haven't flown in Canada yet, but Germany is better as well.

The exception that proves the rule is Mexico. Horrible radio discipline. And it's both sides of the radio. ATC and pilots both.
 
I only tune in 121.5 on cross country flights, and in almost 20 years and 1100 hrs, I haven't heard a meow yet ...
You’ve double-checked the volume and your audio panel setting for your second radio, right? :devil:
 
One of the nice things about flying Caribbean trips is that, once you get out over the ocean, there are hardly any meows on Guard.

Then there are the multiple "You're on Guard!" calls when someone is using Guard during an actual emergency. I've heard that a couple of times.
 
News to me. Source?

I don’t know of a FAR, but found this in the AIM:
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“Highly encouraged”


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The crap happening on 121.5 has degraded overall safety by causing people, like me, to quit monitoring the frequency.
It's all fun & games until a cat scratches an eye out or something like that. :rolleyes:
 
There is a NOTAM issued in 2004 (yes, 21 years ago), which reads:
"ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN UNITED STATES NATIONAL AIRSPACE, IF CAPABLE, SHALL MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON VHF GUARD 121.5 OR UHF 243.0."
You can interpet "if capable" however you like, but that is where the regulatory requirement is. Another example of temporary rules becoming effectively permanent without following administrative procedures required by law.
Jon
 
What if my cat meows by mistake on the frequency. I can see him doing this if he's looking for treats.
 
There is a NOTAM issued in 2004 (yes, 21 years ago), which reads:
"ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN UNITED STATES NATIONAL AIRSPACE, IF CAPABLE, SHALL MAINTAIN A LISTENING WATCH ON VHF GUARD 121.5 OR UHF 243.0."
You can interpet "if capable" however you like, but that is where the regulatory requirement is. Another example of temporary rules becoming effectively permanent without following administrative procedures required by law.
Jon
Yeah, that's not enforceable. That said, 93.339, which includes special air traffic rules for the Washington DC SFRA and FRZ, requires monitoring 121.5 if suitably equipped to do so, inside that airspace.
 
I haven't flown in Canada yet, but Germany is better as well.

The exception that proves the rule is Mexico. Horrible radio discipline. And it's both sides of the radio. ATC and pilots both.
De facto working in Mexico, our competition is not the air users, but the local taxi cabs poaching our VHF formation use freqs. In fairness, that has subsided quite a bit with the proliferation of online app ride sharing, even up here in poverty stricken, Chihuahuan Desert Marscape northern Coahuila.
 
Is it bad that I don’t listen to the guard?
I was not trained to listen when I learned to fly.
You’re right, the few times I have listened I have heard it.
I usually listen to 2 airports and sometimes 3 but never 121.5.
Should I Be?
 
De facto working in Mexico, our competition is not the air users, but the local taxi cabs poaching our VHF formation use freqs. In fairness, that has subsided quite a bit with the proliferation of online app ride sharing, even up here in poverty stricken, Chihuahuan Desert Marscape northern Coahuila.
That's wild. I spent over a decade in Mexico and never heard anything like that. Maybe it's a regional thing? I can't imagine hearing a pilot calling out his pattern in between dispatch calls for a taxi to Don Jiménez's house.
 
I thought "last call" was pretty standard. It's, like, I'm exiting the area. Particularly useful for pilot controlled areas with a lot of transition traffic (think: the shoreline over Miami Beach)
If you want to do that, the proper pro-word would be "Out."

But what good does it do for anyone else? You said you were departing the pattern, so why add another radio call. ESPECIALLY in congested areas.
 
News to me. Source?
In the United States, the FAA requires that all aircraft, if capable, maintain a listening watch on the VHF emergency frequency 121.5 MHz (also known as "guard") while operating within the National Airspace System. This is to assist in identifying potential emergency transmissions and to be able to respond to or relay distress calls. Air traffic control facilities are also required to monitor 121.5 MHz and must conduct two-way, ground-to-air checks at least weekly to ensure effective coverage.
 
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