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It's more that a UI (good or otherwise) will be made, then altered two minutes later in an 'update' that only serves to move the buttons around. Like moving the start menu to the middle, away from the place it's been for decades. Why? Because the UI person they hired had never in her life used Windows before being hired.
 
2-Bit Speed said:
It's more that a UI (good or otherwise) will be made, then altered two minutes later in an 'update' that only serves to move the buttons around. Like moving the start menu to the middle, away from the place it's been for decades. Why? Because the UI person they hired had never in her life used Windows before being hired.
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Lucky UI person to never having been subjected to windows
 
Bob Noel said:
Lucky UI person to never having been subjected to windows
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That's like saying it was lucky of the top Ducati engineer to never have ridden a motorcycle before his job at Ducati and how wonderful it is that the new Ducati has a third wheel.
 
Bob Noel said:
I suppose if one thinks the UI from microsoft isn't an example of what not to do.
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There are four places on a screen that provide infinitely large clickable areas. They are the corners. It's wise to place vital functions in those places to make accessing them both easy and quick. Having the start menu in a corner obeys this rule. Placing it somewhere in the middle and allowing it to move every time a new window opens does not, and that's ignoring the fact that such a movement betrays a long tradition.
 
Moving the Start menu to the left corner is one of the first things I do after installing Windows 11 on a PC.

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:) A which UI is better argument is kinda like a discussion around which grocery store does the best job of making it harder to find stuff when they re-arrange things every few months just for the fun of it.

I'm old enough to remember when command line was the only thing and GUI first hit the streets. If, back then, someone said that people would still be screwing around with changing the UI every few months forty years later, they'd have thought they were nuts. But here we are.
 
Albany Tom said:
:) A which UI is better argument is kinda like a discussion around which grocery store does the best job of making it harder to find stuff when they re-arrange things every few months just for the fun of it.
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I really wasn't trying to argue that one was better than the other, just that there are reasons for the prior setup and that I'm against capricious changes. Like in grocery stores.
 
AV8R_87 said:
It's all clever marketing.
By forcing you to spend more time looking at the shelves, you are more likely to buy stuff you weren't going to buy otherwise.
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I know...years ago I had a customer that did consulting around that industry. The amount of time spent making the store brand stuff easier to grab than what you really want is kinda staggering.

Kinda like when you're trying to find something on the Internet and instead you get an ad for something they think they can sell you.
 
Years ago a local supermarket wasn't selling as many cans goods as they wanted with them priced at twenty five cents each. But at four for a dollar on an end cap with a sale sign they went much faster ...

Strange but true!
 
AV8R_87 said:
It's all clever marketing.
By forcing you to spend more time looking at the shelves, you are more likely to buy stuff you weren't going to buy otherwise.
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I gave it a "like" because it is true. But like almost everyone else, I really hate it. But it does generate additional profits sales along with the grumbles. I changed profits to sales because I don't know if the extra sales offset the cost of moving things around. Also, I have left a few stores when I couldn't easily find what I wanted.
 
Daleandee said:
Years ago a local supermarket wasn't selling as many cans goods as they wanted with them priced at twenty five cents each. But at four for a dollar on an end cap with a sale sign they went much faster ...

Strange but true!
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Years ago my dad and my uncle had a Champ…they advertised it in Trade-A-Plane for $5000. Got a bunch of phone calls from people who just wanted to talk airplanes.

A storm came through and damaged the shed it was in, resulting in some damage to the airplane. They advertised it for $5500 “damaged,” and it sold the day after the ad came out.
 
AV8R_87 said:
It's all clever marketing.
By forcing you to spend more time looking at the shelves, you are more likely to buy stuff you weren't going to buy otherwise.
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Sounds good, in theory. In reality, it just takes me longer to buy the things I was going to buy anyway, resulting in me shopping less and/or elsewhere.

But yeah, the grocery industry is one of the more f'ed up ones I've ever worked with. You would not believe what your money gets spent on...
 
flyingcheesehead said:
Sounds good, in theory. In reality, it just takes me longer to buy the things I was going to buy anyway, resulting in me shopping less and/or elsewhere.

But yeah, the grocery industry is one of the more f'ed up ones I've ever worked with. You would not believe what your money gets spent on...
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You and me and probably 90% of all pilots, engineers and other technical types. We have a list, we work the list, we leave. But that seems to be about 2% of the population. Most see "squirrel" and have to buy one, and the matching little shoes, etc.

I found out a couple of years ago that some people actually impulse buy cars! They walk in to see what's there, next thing they're actually listening to the sales guy talk, and then they own a car. Me, even when I'm shopping for a car, could stop the typical conversation part way through and honestly say "guy, I know you've been talking because I hear a buzzing sound and your mouth is moving, but unlike you I'm not being paid to be here, so I really didn't hear what you were saying. But that's ok. Here on this piece of paper is what I'm looking for, can you go talk to somebody and give me a quote? I know I sound like a jerk, but it's good because this will be quick."

I may need to take a couple of days off.
 
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Albany Tom said:
You and me and probably 90% of all pilots, engineers and other technical types. We have a list, we work the list, we leave. But that seems to be about 2% of the population. Most see "squirrel" and have to buy one, and the matching little shoes, etc.

I found out a couple of years ago that some people actually impulse buy cars! They walk in to see what's there, next thing they're actually listening to the sales guy talk, and then they own a car. Me, even when I'm shopping for a car, could stop the typical conversation part way through and honestly say "guy, I know you've been talking because I hear a buzzing sound and your mouth is moving, but unlike you I'm not being paid to be here, so I really didn't hear what you were saying. But that's ok. Here on this piece of paper is what I'm looking for, can you go talk to somebody and give me a quote? I know I sound like a jerk, but it's good because this will be quick."

i may need to take a couple of days off.
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I’m the same, I don’t “shop”. I go to a store knowing exactly what I am going to the store for and get nothing else. On big purchases I have already done extensive due diligence, researched the product, it’s alternatives, it’s weak points. Going to buy it is to do a confirmatory inspection that there is no damage or changes to the the actual unit from the published information that will be an issue. If a pushy salesperson starts bothering me I ask them complex questions I know the answer to already to judge their character. If they say they don’t know they will be getting the commission, if they try to brush it aside and go back into their sales pitch I’ll walk away. If they can answer it correctly, they will have a repeat customer.
 
Another list shopper, strict adherence to. If they shuffle the locations and I can’t find things in a reasonable time, I go to another store where I can quickly fill the list.

New car research starts months and sometimes years before I ever darken the doorstep of a dealer.

Impulse buys? Not even a cup of coffee.
 
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