Lawsuit Filed in Fatal Flight School Accident

Alaska and Horizon = Deep Pockets. Looks like the Estate’s of the CIF and student are spared. This will kill off flight academy’s sponsored by Airlines and Universities if successful…just my take but having been on the deep pockets side of an aviation accident it’s probably the reality of it.
 
Jeff Oslick said:
The CFI numbers in the final report really stand out...198 total hours? As an MEI - how is that possible?
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The report is sketchy. The times are estimated, and it estimates the student has 12 hours in type, which is really odd if this was his first lesson. It's possible to get your CFI under my part 141 with 190 hours, so maybe they just went with the minimums.
 
No injuries to the plaintiffs. This will settle for quite a bit less than the claimed damages. Alaska and Horizon will pay their deductible, and the insurance company will negotiate for the rest.
 
Ed Haywood said:
No injuries to the plaintiffs. This will settle for quite a bit less than the claimed damages. Alaska and Horizon will pay their deductible, and the insurance company will negotiate for the rest.
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A woman once sued universal studios haunted house for scaring her too much. At a place she paid to scare her just enough. Despite the lack of physical injuries.
 
Racerx said:
A woman once sued universal studios haunted house for scaring her too much. At a place she paid to scare her just enough. Despite the lack of physical injuries.
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And the result was?
 
Ed Haywood said:
No injuries to the plaintiffs. This will settle for quite a bit less than the claimed damages. Alaska and Horizon will pay their deductible, and the insurance company will negotiate for the rest.
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But nobody wants to think about where the insurance company get their money from. It’s a disappointing culture we live in.
 
Bacho said:
But nobody wants to think about where the insurance company get their money from. It’s a disappointing culture we live in.
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The insurance company assumed the risk of insuring a flight school. The acturial tables or whatever statistician calculated the risks and charged appropriately. That's the system, and it works well.

In realty I would run the school as a corp and not have insurance, are the very minimal amount to operate, and expect the CFI and students to indemnify me.

In this case none of the litigants died, they have are making mental/emotional distress claims. They should get a new house (or the value of their old one) and that's it.... but I have no idea how wacky OR laws are. This is all on the CFI who could be an employee, but again, a smart flight school would 1099 them.
 
According to the lawsuit, the Ferris family’s home was damaged beyond repair, and the yard was damaged by both the impact and the removal of the wreckage. They have moved six times since the crash and have struggled due to the “financial and emotional strain from the destruction of their home.
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uh, wat?

Nice of them to pick an easy, round 2.5MM number per person, but they're getting approximately the value of the house and losses they can prove, and that's about it. I assume there is a LOT more to that "moved six times" story which has nothing to do with spinning seminoles.
 
pfarber said:
The insurance company assumed the risk of insuring a flight school. The acturial tables or whatever statistician calculated the risks and charged appropriately. That's the system, and it works well.
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The money that insurance hands out, comes from people like you and I. It works so well that everybody I know is quite content with stable insurance rates are certainly not increasing rapidly. :rolleyes:

It’s disappointing that our culture has evolved into every tragedy immediately turns into a money grab. L
 
Bacho said:
But nobody wants to think about where the insurance company get their money from. It’s a disappointing culture we live in.
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The cost of litigation is factored into most premiums and most insurers purchase re-insurance policies to balance out the risk of an outsize loss. What we don’t know, and I’m too lazy to dig up the docket, is whether the insurer made the payout process painful in the initial claim.

There’s also the possibility the defendants are looking to win the lottery.
 
Hang 4 said:
There’s a difference between no liability and a settlement in the 100’s of millions for damages that are far less.
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He didn’t say “settled for less” or “settled for something reasonable,” (which is pretty much the definition of “settlement”), but should “not be settled.”
 
midlifeflyer said:
He didn’t say “settled for less” or “settled for something reasonable,” (which is pretty much the definition of “settlement”), but should “not be settled.”
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Yeah. I mean, were not privy to the deets and what the insurance has already offered. But I could see why the lawsuit was brought up.
 
Racerx said:
Yeah. I mean, were not privy to the deets and what the insurance has already offered. But I could see why the lawsuit was brought up.
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I would hazard to guess if Alaska and Horizon were not DBAing a 141 program, this lawsuit would look much different if it existed at all.
 
TCABM said:
I would hazard to guess if Alaska and Horizon were not DBAing a 141 program, this lawsuit would look much different if it existed at all.
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Certainly a firewall between both parties.
 
TCABM said:
I would hazard to guess if Alaska and Horizon were not DBAing a 141 program, this lawsuit would look much different if it existed at all.
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That's probably an accurate statement. Ability to collect is always a consideration, even if liability is relatively good. So with smaller pockets/insurance, it might well have settled before the suit was filed.
 
midlifeflyer said:
So, you would say flight schools should have no liability when they crash into a home? Interesting.
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You jumped to conclusions.

Fighting it doesn't mean no liability, it means getting the value of the home from the insurance companuy, plus whatever else was damaged, not 2.5 mil per person.

Just because you were "scared" doesn't mean you deserve 2.5 million.
If that was the case, I deserve that every day as idiots cut me off in traffic.
 
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AV8R_87 said:
Just because you were "scared" doesn't mean you deserve 2.5 million.
If that was the case, I deserbe thst every day as idiots cut me off in traffic.
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Except "scared" is actually a form of tort and falls under Negligent Infliction of Emotional Distress and can lead to some large payouts especially if your attorney is good.
 
Bell206 said:
Except "scared" is actually a form of tort and falls under Negligent Infliction of Emotional Distress and can lead to some large payouts especially if your attorney is good.
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And since the children were home...every jury is going to be sympathetic to that.
 
Racerx said:
And since the children were home...every jury is going to be sympathetic to that.
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Ok, everyone be ready to add a couple or three hundo to your insurance payment next year, because them kids just HAVE to be millionaires because scared.
 
Bill said:
Ok, everyone be ready to add a couple or three hundo to your insurance payment next year, because them kids just HAVE to be millionaires because scared.
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I'm not saying I like or agree with it. It's just the sad state of the world we live in
 
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