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Yep. That's the one. Agreed - excellent."The Checklist Manifesto" by Atul Gawande? Great book - I finished it recently.
Yep. That's the one. Agreed - excellent."The Checklist Manifesto" by Atul Gawande? Great book - I finished it recently.
I'm a little late to the party here, and all the talk about reminders and checklists is good, but isn't this the real origin of the problem? Post-flight actions are important, don't be in such a hurry to leave the airport. Especially a whole 25% of the time.
The rush isn't to leave the airport. The rush is to get to the restroom in time!I'm a little late to the party here, and all the talk about reminders and checklists is good, but isn't this the real origin of the problem? Post-flight actions are important, don't be in such a hurry to leave the airport. Especially a whole 25% of the time.
His other book, "Being Mortal," is also excellent.Yep. That's the one. Agreed - excellent.
“In a hurry” is the bane of mishaps. Make a checklist for walking away at the end, follow it every time.Ok, I think I need a trick for this.
About 25% of the time, mostly after an aggressive acro flight, I hangar my aircraft and leave in a hurry without remembering to put the pitot tube cover on.
I am in central Florida, which is a highly "bio-active" environment in the summer. Lots of bugs, frogs, lizards, birds, snakes, mice, and various other critters everywhere, especially at a grass strip in a rural area.
About 3 times a year, some unknown creature decides my pitot tube is a really good place to stash some leaf cuttings for a later snack.
The material is not enough to affect ASI on takeoff. But when I get up to cruise speed, it gets jammed back in the bend and plugs the tube. Several times I have been on final and noticed I had zero airspeed indicated. I know how my plane feels so this is not a major stressor, but it clearly is something to be avoided.
If I have an acro flight and I notice during pre-flight that I forgot the tube cover, I blow the pitot tube out from the cockpit with compressed air.
So what do the rest of you do to remember to replace the cover after flight? Hang it from the panel or something?
So with that Bernoulli Brank, does the ASI instantly go from 0-40mph?So many rituals when you can adios this nuisance for the price of a happy meal.
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Pitot Tube Protector - 1/2 Inch These hinged pitot tube protectors open automatically in take off at speed of about 40 MPH and close automatically at end of landing roll.www.aircraftspruce.com
No idea. I imagine one could, ahem, recalibrate the little air-catch flappy doodle if they wanted a lower activation speedSo with that Bernoulli Brank, does the ASI instantly go from 0-40mph?
"Power up, engine gauges green, airspeed alive. Alive? Alive??? Oh ****!"
So many rituals when you can adios this nuisance for the price of a happy meal.
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Pitot Tube Protector - 1/2 Inch | Aircraft Spruce ®
Pitot Tube Protector - 1/2 Inch These hinged pitot tube protectors open automatically in take off at speed of about 40 MPH and close automatically at end of landing roll.www.aircraftspruce.com
Being ignorant of acro generally, and not knowing your plane specifically, are there maneuvers where the wing sees < 40mph forward speed?I've never seen one of those on an aerobatic aircraft and not sure I would trust it in that environment.
Yes: hammerheads. And also maneuvers where the wing sees angles of attack that might frustrate the flap. I’d have to be smarter and also have a model airplane to try to figure out the forces on the flap during, say, a spin or a snap roll.Being ignorant of acro generally, and not knowing your plane specifically, are there maneuvers where the wing sees < 40mph forward speed?
I'd add "Master Switch Off?" for ... reasons.My wife posted a big sign, complete with hand drawn graphics, right next to the light switch by the hangar door:
KEYS?
PHONE?
I see that right before I leave. I will leave it to you to figure out why she felt it necessary to put that sign there...
That's what the always-on beacon switch is for. If the big red idiot light is flashing on my tail when I'm trying to close the doors, it's a reminder that I probably need to run through my post-flight checklist again.I'd add "Master Switch Off?" for ... reasons.
Yes: hammerheads. And also maneuvers where the wing sees angles of attack that might frustrate the flap. I’d have to be smarter and also have a model airplane to try to figure out the forces on the flap during, say, a spin or a snap roll.
I bet you play a mean holophoner.Then my solution is bad and I should feel bad.![]()
Being ignorant of acro generally, and not knowing your plane specifically, are there maneuvers where the wing sees < 40mph forward speed?
@Ed Haywood what jumps out to me is the "mostly after an aggressive..."
That reads like an athlete who went a little deeper than they intended. TBH I'd reconsider if there are any other elements that are suffering when you go that hard. If you're tired, you're tired. It's probably not just the pitot cover.
I'd add "Master Switch Off?" for ... reasons.
I have always turned off the beacon and have never forgotten the master. I suppose the moment I do is probably a good sign for me to hang up my headset for good.I leave the beacon switch on at all times. So a quick look back seeing the flash tells you.
I've seen that before from whoever rented the plane before me.I put my pitot cover with the control lock. If I forget one, I forget both.
When removing your pitot tube covers during preflight, send yourself a text reminding you to put them back on. We all know, the first thing you do when you land is check your phone. Eventually it should become a habit? Maybe? Unless you're an old coot and texting isn't your thing!!!!![]()
@Ed Haywood how long do your practices typically last?
Do you have a box over or near your home airport?Typically 20-30 minute flights with 10-15 minutes of acro. Usually two 5 minute sequences of 12 maneuvers each, with a few extra interations of things I'm making mistakes on.
Do you have a box over or near your home airport?
I have to fly about 10 miles to one of two spots that are the required distance from airways.
One day I was talking to someone about this. Plane landed and parked. Pilot walked up and I pointed out his master was on. He said he left his beacon on for this reason.I have always turned off the beacon and have never forgotten the master. I suppose the moment I do is probably a good sign for me to hang up my headset for good.