Timbeck2
Final Approach
Agreed. That goes for most anyone on this forum. I may kid around a lot at your expense Tom but no malice is ever intended; I hope you know that.
Weather I knew it or not, it doesn't bother me. but it is nice to see you say it.Agreed. That goes for most anyone on this forum. I may kid around a lot at your expense Tom but no malice is ever intended; I hope you know that.
Well there ya go. Lets all hold hands and form a circle now....
ahem......kum by ya
You wouldn't believe some of the things I found while performing parts receiving inspection. Parts marked "Overhauled", that clearly weren't. Parts sold as "New" that clearly weren't. Who'd want to pay the new price for a used part? Parts with identification that didn't match certification. There's all kinds of information online about bogus/unapproved parts, even an Advisory Circular (20-62E) if anyone is interested.Agreed, I just wanted clarification for what you were meaning. At least with some paperwork accompanying the part there might be a reasonable justification on why a mechanic installed said part beyond just the mechanic thinking it was the right one and acceptable for use.
It amazes me what some owners come up for with for parts and expect mechanics to install and sign off on. It is easy to see why some mechanics refuse to do anything with owner supplied parts or used parts, in an attempt to limit their liability.
you guys sing, I'll just hum along.Well there ya go. Lets all hold hands and form a circle now....
ahem......kum by ya
yup....and we knew you were a hum singer.you guys sing, I'll just hum along.
Talk about personal attacks.I know a lot of you don't like Tom,...
You mis-spelled it.yup....and we knew you were a hum singer.![]()
Please elaborate on this? Are you saying I was personally attacking anyone?Talk about personal attacks.
me thinks he was talking about his AoA.....Please elaborate on this? Are you saying I was personally attacking anyone?
don't have a Vari-Ez anymoreYes, absolutely you can use that part. put it in your long-eze.
notice the word OR in my above only post.if you yellow tag it or return it to service and it is the correct part # for the use yes
simply remember, end user declares airworthiness.notice the word OR in my above only post.
Then he sells the airplane with no record of anything to some unsuspecting soul.simply remember, end user declares airworthiness.
Who is the "he" you speak of.Then he sells the airplane with no record of anything to some unsuspecting soul.
certainly there wouldn't be -3's....maybe logs....but no work orders or -3's.Then he sells the airplane with no record of anything to some unsuspecting soul.
...Did anyone ever come up with a definitive answer to the question about how many Angels can dance on the head of a pin?
ya but....don't get caught with doing that.We have TSO and STC stamps in stock. Hell, if all it takes is a stamp, that's easy to do.
Jim
AC 20-62EOn my ride, I prefer to buy my parts at NAPA (when appropriate) and install them myself.
But, of course, on my ride it's safe and legal to do so since the laws of physics vary based on the color of the airworthiness certificate.
" This advisory circular (AC) provides information and guidance for use in determining the quality, eligibility and traceability of aeronautical parts and materials intended for installation on U.S. type-certificated (TC) products and articles, and to enable compliance with the applicable regulations."AC 20-62E
b. Acceptable Parts. The following parts may be found to be acceptable for installation on
a TC’d product:
(1) Standard parts (such as nuts and bolts) conforming to an established industry or
U.S. specification.
f. Standard Part. Is a part manufactured in complete compliance with an established
U.S. Government or industry-accepted specification, which includes design, manufacturing, and
uniform identification requirements. The specification must include all information necessary to
produce and conform to the part. The specification must be published so that any party may
manufacture the part. Examples include, but are not limited to, National Aerospace Standard
(NAS), Air Force/Navy (AN) Aeronautical Standard, Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE),
Aerospace Standard (AS), Military Standard (MS), etc.
OWT never cease to exist....
Even when you have a ton of paper with it, who makes the decision to use or not? ----> In the end it's always the installer." This advisory circular (AC) provides information and guidance for use in determining the quality, eligibility and traceability of aeronautical parts and materials intended for installation on U.S. type-certificated (TC) products and articles, and to enable compliance with the applicable regulations."
Does not apply if you are "in the pink".
" This advisory circular (AC) provides information and guidance for use in determining the quality, eligibility and traceability of aeronautical parts and materials intended for installation on U.S. type-certificated (TC) products and articles, and to enable compliance with the applicable regulations."
Does not apply if you are "in the pink".
should have kept him, at least he talks to you prior to doing and letting you hunt for it.I had one guy who wanted to replace the fuel tank screws on his Cherokee with NAPA sourced "same damn thing" hardware. I told him that would render his aircraft unairworthy and to then go find another maintainer.
I had one guy who wanted to replace the fuel tank screws on his Cherokee with NAPA sourced "same damn thing" hardware. I told him that would render his aircraft unairworthy and to then go find another maintainer.
Then go here http://www.aircraftspruce.com and order the correct part number from the aircraft IPC.Hardware store screws are not equivalent to aircraft structural screws. Standard aircraft screws are not equivalent to structural aircraft screws.
I like to use the right part for the right application.![]()
Alllllllllrighteeeey then.Hardware store screws are not equivalent to aircraft structural screws. Standard aircraft screws are not equivalent to structural aircraft screws.
I like to use the right part for the right application.![]()
probably reading a job card in his office.All this damn googling... Where's 3393 RP when you need him...