Air Wagner..... He’s baaaaackk.

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Mike Blackburn, Nov 12, 2019.

  1. MauleSkinner

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    So either Jerry does things differently with his MEI, or the MEI isn’t applying standards.
     
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  2. AlphaMike

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    I still believe Jerry is a troll (and a dang good one!). His videos are almost like an Easter egg hunt or where’s Waldo. He always does something or says something that is blatantly wrong. I treat it like a game. “Sweet, Jerry put out a new video. Let me see if I can catch what he does on this one” Sometimes it’s easy, then other times I completely miss it and have to come here to find out what it was. Always fun though.
     
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    It's fun to think about how you know so much about him and what his MEI thinks about him.
     
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    You may want to re-read what you've posted in this thread because you have said he's good, proficient, and safe - which he's not, or at least doesn't demonstrate it in hie videos.
     
  5. N1120A

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    Well, I've actually talked to his MEI, so...¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    He's certainly proficient, even many of his his haters think he can handle the airplane and his record suggests he is generally safe. I've certainly commented that I don't think he's always made the best decisions, but I also don't think anyone can say that.
     
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    I’ll mildly defend the MEI here. What he does with the MEI on board and what he posts on the Internet MAY be two different things.

    I just know I’d be embarrassed to sign the logbook if a student were as unrepentant about the instrument procedures as he is.

    I’ve said a few times I think he has a reasonable feel for the stick and rudder stuff. Gasp, maybe better than some. Because it lets him get away with a lot of low level maneuvering and things I personally wouldn’t recommend doing in the generally larger aircraft he flies (related to GA). There’s a reason crews of even bigger things don’t fly like that.

    But students doing crap when the instructor isn’t on board? Common anti-authority rebellion. It definitely happens or there wouldn’t be accidents eh? LOL
     
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  7. EdFred

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    Someone who is proficient wouldn't make that many mistakes - especially the same ones over and over.

    Managing not to kill yourself != proficient.
     
  8. MauleSkinner

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    His record, as far as we can see, is his trail of YouTube videos, which doesn’t suggest “generally safe” to me.
     
  9. MacFlier

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    And there's a new video out where he explains the hold entry... :) have fun!
     
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    The problem with this whole flying thing is that only being "generally safe" is probably not a good plan. You should really be "always safe". Jerry does some really sketchy things that so far hasn't bitten him, but luck only lasts so long.
     
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    I think all of us, including Jerry, think we're "always safe." I think none of us actually are.
     
  12. dmspilot

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    Obviously Jerry is not a 20,000-hour professional pilot and should not be expected to be able to follow a simple "hold as published" instruction. Making up your own unpublished hold is an excellent solution to this problem.
     
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    Just like the honey badger, Jerry don't give a crap. Not sure what is less safe, his actual flying, or his attitude.
     
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    You mean he explains that holding South on a completely different course is darn close to holding West, and a left holding pattern is darn close to a right holding pattern.
     
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    I actually detected a faint whiff of penitence in his latest video. Despite the load of excuses he gives at the beginning, he actually discussed it with his CFI, learned a way to do it correctly and practiced on the simulator. Plus, he turned the comments back on.
     
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    I sensed that too, although in his verbal description, he says the controller told him to hold west of the fix, which he says he did. I went back and listened again, and the controller clearly says, hold west as published. For me, the easiest way to get that hold loaded correctly is to reload the approach, choosing the fix he was to hold over as the IAF, then activate it with the procedure turn and suspend when you cross into the turn. That's how I would have handled it, let the automation help you.
     
  17. midlifeflyer

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    I can't tell if he a actually learned why the correct way was the correct way and would be able to apply it elsewhere.
     
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  18. midlifeflyer

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    I agree reloading is a better way.
     
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    Yup. @midlifeflyer in the other thread inspired me to practice that the other day. Just make sure you don't accidentally hit "Activate approach" when you're at the PROC menu, especially if you are on autopilot. :)
     
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    Yes, it was a very faint whiff. :)
     
  21. RyanB

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    If that’s the case, I really question the judgement of that MEI. Something doesn’t add up there...
     
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    Yes, my CFII showed me how to do it when I had selected VTF in the Cirrus and ATC played their favorite joke on me and cleared me to the IAF that wasn't on the final approach course. It works well in a lot of cases. The most important thing I've learned about this IFR stuff is to not let yourself feel rushed and to make sure you confirm everything you do, especially after a curveball is thrown at you.
     
  23. MacFlier

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    That's what I was thinking too. Just reload the approach, say "yes" when it asks to do the procedure turn...
     
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    There is a catch. Depending on where you are, you may not have a choice other than "load and activate." That would happen in Jerry's situation because he already crossed a fix on the approach. If you run his scenario, I think you'll see it. Not a big deal. Just suspend when you enter the hold and unsuspend when cleared.
     
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    I don't make the assumption either way. On the one hand I think his videos show a pattern of procedural weakness when confronted with something different going back to videos with no IFR GPS and paper charts. OTOH, I have seen him take suggestions made in comments and incorporate them.
     
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    I always wondered what happens to pilots that squeak by on the written tests...now I know. ;-)
     
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    The written test is a very low barrier which has more to do with test taking than flying. I'd bet he did very well on it.
     
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    988...and it keeps rolling..
     
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    As long as Jerry keeps posting videos this thread will continue.
     
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    I recon Jerry will post videos until he’s dead. I hope the thread never ends.
     
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    I suppose there could even be a posthumous video, given that if he crashes, there will no doubt be several cameras running. And with solid state memory cards, it seems like these can often be recovered.
     
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    In his latest video, Jerry explains why he goes to VTF on the RNAV approach into KOAK. I agree with his reasons.

    Only problem is, he reprises the recurrent theme of letting communicating with his audience distract him from aviating and navigating. The result is he busts the minimum altitude at the FAF, CUVSA, by almost 500 feet.
     
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    he had comments on at first then took them off.. he must have gotten called out at busting the minimums. U could see him climbing once he realized he was too low.
     
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    I follow this thread entirely for the entertainment value.
     
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    Is there other value? :)
     
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    Yep, people do dumb things when showing off for the camera. You see the same thing in other venues like skydiving and driving.
     
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    And rock climbing and SCUBA diving and mountain biking and surfing and whitewater kayaking and skiing/snowboarding and on and on.

    One could probably correlate an increase in thrill sports fatality rates with the presence of a GoPro.
     
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    It's the technological equivalent of "Hold my beer!"
     
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    Yes, as Mark notes, Jerry did indeed bust the FAF altitude by 500'... and my YouTube comment to that effect got "closed" with the whatever other comments had been made to that point. Here's my original comment (partial) followed by the partial response from Jerry (the full comment and response are of course now hidden).

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    Sorry Jerry, that’s not how that works. :)
     
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