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RussR said:
Class E airspace is still labeled "Controlled Airspace".

And 91.123b says:
"Except in an emergency, no person may operate an aircraft contrary to an ATC instruction in an area in which air traffic control is exercised."

So, to me, while you are not required to request ATC services in Class E, if you do receive ATC instructions you must comply.

Now of course, in the OP's scenario, there was no requirement for him to have the radio tuned in to the tower freq, so that muddies the water, but just being outside of A-D airspace doesn't mean you can disregard ATC instructions.
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The regulation assumes valid ATC instructions.
 
texasclouds said:
New fone, who dis?
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Ok, can't resist an OT story.

2007, I'm in the Army, sitting at my desk. Land line rings.

Me: "SOCCENT special actions, LTC Haywood speaking."

Caller (female): "Where Terrell?"

Me: "Sorry, who?"

Caller: "You tell Terrell get he azz over now with the stuff!"

Me: "Sorry, I think you have the wrong number."

Caller (indignant): "I DON'T THINK I DO!" Hangs up.

I greatly regret I did not have the presence of mind to respond instead with "Terrell don't wanna talk to you. He say he done wit yo azz. He say git yo own stuff!"
 
roncachamp said:
No he doesn't. You're VFR in Class E airspace.
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Only caveat would be in you were inbound to that airport.

A couple of examples might be "remain clear of the Class D" or something like "turn left 180, join an extended Right Base for Rwy 01" (so basically a downwind totally outside the Class D). Anything like this might get you in trouble if you did not follow the instructions and either entered when told not to or did not enter where you were told to.
 
midlifeflyer said:
Not necessarily. I don’t always use flight following when VFR. When I don’t, depending on my 3D location, I will monitor TRACONs, Deltas, and even CTAFs I pass near as part of my situational awareness. IIRC, I was taught that in my student days.
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I often do that too, and I suspect a lot of other pilots are also doing that. I guess controllers have figured that out, which would explain the practice of cold-calling pilots based on their ADSB out.
 
Clip4 said:
Sure, “oh, I am the aircraft in the way, I just turn and help out”. If your 3D location warrants monitoring Tracons and Deltas, you are far in a better situation being a part of the ATC system than monitoring the system.
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It depends. In my local area, I know full well how to stay out of the way of routes frequented by airliners and other IFR traffic, whereas if I'm in the system, there are times when the vectoring gets kind of ridiculous.
 
M20K said:
Only caveat would be in you were inbound to that airport.

A couple of examples might be "remain clear of the Class D" or something like "turn left 180, join an extended Right Base for Rwy 01" (so basically a downwind totally outside the Class D). Anything like this might get you in trouble if you did not follow the instructions and either entered when told not to or did not enter where you were told to.
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In this scenario the aircraft is overflying Class D airspace and monitoring the tower frequency.
 
roncachamp said:
In this scenario the aircraft is overflying Class D airspace and monitoring the tower frequency.
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Which is why I clarified and said if the plane was heading into that airport.

Nothing to do with the incorrect cold call from a Tower, but just a clarification.
 
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