John221us
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fellas fellas. Simmer down. There is no pilot shortage in the AF. The fighter pilot shortage that gets alluded to frequently really isn't a shortage at all. The thing is, there's a plethora of 11F (AFSC for fighter pilot) STAFF BILLETS that currently go unfilled or filled by 11M (mobility) or 11B (bomber) coded pilots. There are NO SHORTAGE OF PILOTS to fill fighter cockpits. As a matter of fact, the FTU (schoolhouse) production is limited because there's nowhere to send those people to go fly.
So to recap. The title of the article should have been edited to read "USAF has pilot shortage.... to go fill desk jobs"
Sorry. No F-xx for you all I'm afraid...
Jeez, can you imagine the transition from a fighter jock to a drone operator? 153 pilots had their ride taken away, and were put in the couch as a drone-patrol op. Talk about losing incentive.
Well I guess that if it was "time" to step down anyway truly flying a desk might beat figuratively flying one
fellas fellas. Simmer down. There is no pilot shortage in the AF. The fighter pilot shortage that gets alluded to frequently really isn't a shortage at all. The thing is, there's a plethora of 11F (AFSC for fighter pilot) STAFF BILLETS that currently go unfilled or filled by 11M (mobility) or 11B (bomber) coded pilots. There are NO SHORTAGE OF PILOTS to fill fighter cockpits. As a matter of fact, the FTU (schoolhouse) production is limited because there's nowhere to send those people to go fly. They're not merely going to ramp up production just so they can fill staff billets with inexperienced guys. This is of course a side effect of the UAV plus up that decimated the late 00 fighter year groups.
So to recap. The title of the article should have been edited to read "USAF has pilot shortage.... to go fill desk jobs"
Sorry. No F-xx for you all I'm afraid...
Signed,
Sincerely,
A prior bomber guy who wanted to fly fighters but no musical chairs were available when my turn at spinning the wheel came up.
I perhaps doesn't help that you can be good enough to be a 47 year old Wing Commander, pass the fitness test even with a shoulder injury, and get fired because your waist is one inch too big.
and in the last couple years, they have been forcing a TON of officers (many of them pilots) out. Guys with good records and 15/16 years of service - no retirement for you - see ya!
Yep, this happened to a friend of mine. 15 years in, fully expecting to stay until retirement at 20 like virtually everybody else in previous years who made it that far. Got notified he was no longer needed. No retirement for you, hah hah, tricked you!
Needless to say, when talking to younger folks, it's pretty hard to recommend the Air Force as a career when they're pulling crap like that, and the other examples like in this thread. I forecast some pretty major personnel problems in the very near future. And they'd be well deserved.
Except that the difference between the Navy and Air Force is that if you don't make O5, the Navy will still keep you around until 20 because the Navy has been able to justify their demand for field grade staff officers.Up or out business, just like anywhere else. If you don't have the paper to screen for your next career milestone, then you just didn't make the cut....again, like any other line of work. The military doesn't owe anyone retirement; it is not a welfare program. Just my .02
Up or out business, just like anywhere else. If you don't have the paper to screen for your next career milestone, then you just didn't make the cut....again, like any other line of work. The military doesn't owe anyone retirement; it is not a welfare program. Just my .02
Except that the difference between the Navy and Air Force is that if you don't make O5, the Navy will still keep you around until 20 because the Navy has been able to justify their demand for field grade staff officers.
Really? "Like any other line of work"? So, working at McDonalds, if you don't make the cut to get promoted from fry cook to cashier, they fire you? If a salesman at a major retailer, if you don't get picked for promotion to department manager, you get fired? A mid-level employee at pretty much any company HAS to get promoted or be fired? Actually, I'd say that the "up or out" aspect of the military is completely UNLIKE any other line of work.