TSA actually find a gun this time...

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    Little bit of an overreaction by TSA. It happens. Unfortunately.
     
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    We throw big parties on the airpark so I have some commercial restaurant stuff that I bought at Sams Club. Included in this are a whole stack of grey bus trays we use for cleaning up and various other purposes. Our airline guys have dubbed these our TSA trays as they do look like the ones from the security checkpoints.
     
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    Just another underpaid TSA agent,without common sense,doing his job.
     
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    Cheerleader.... full pat down. Hmmm.......
     
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    A cavity search would have helped too. ;)
     
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    Most confused I've ever seen the TSA was in Huntsville,AL. I was staying at the airport hotel and the only food was inside security.

    So I showed up in gym clothes and my crew ID. It took a supervisor and a phone call to figure out if I was allowed past! I didn't help when I said I could get a "ticket" in about 30 seconds if they needed me to...
     
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    Up next: overzealous LEO shoots and kills front seat motor vehicle passenger who proclaimed they were “riding shotgun.” You laugh now... a few years ago this wouldn’t have even made sense as a joke. Now, unfortunately, it sounds plausible.
     
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    Is that you, Mr. Weinstein? Or have I confused you with a trusted government official?
     
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    Those eyelashes are what probably caught their attention. :yikes:
     
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    I dropped a bomb going through the metal detector.

    I mean I cropped dusted going through the metal detector. The never suspected me because my wife was next in line....
     
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    Ahh, security theater.

     
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    They knew. You just thought they didn't. :)
     
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    :eek: ..... do you mean...
     
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    Checking out the s***hole? :D
     
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    TSA did a strip search of my 97 year old mother-in-law, who needed a wheel chair to get around in the airport.
    There are not enough insults, in enough languages, in enough countries on the planet to describe my feeling for TSA.
     
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    I know I always feel safer thinking of these morons protecting me, don't y'all? LOL.
     
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    Same with my 95 year old mother-in-law. Not a strip search but a patting down...I probably would've been irate at that one too. I guess TSA figures if they've been around that long they must be up to somethin'...:confused:

    She did poke at one of the TSA Agents with her cane for giving another TSA Agent a hard time. At least they laughed and didn't knock her out of the wheelchair, they put her in, and pin her down.
     
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    Touch Sacks Always. :)
     
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    Just don't crop dust through an explosive monitor, it will alarm.
     
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    Lesson learned through experience..?? :lol::lol:
     
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    The TSA is just an allegedly "professionalized" version of the overreaction after 9/11.

    Feb 2002. We're living overseas in the Middle East. My wife must have surgery. The #1 surgeon for this is in Bend, Oregon.

    On the first leg out, after recovery, we have to fly a commuter turboprop to Portland. There's no gates or a bridge, just a little waiting room overlooking the ramp, and you walk out to the planes. Because we are tired of the hotel we arrive quite early. Good thing. More than two hours before flight time in marches a small troop of cadets. Moments later the PA announcement to line up for security. I have my back to the makeshift security entrance and ignore the announcement. Couple minutes later another announcement, followed by a third one that warns if one is not through security one will be denied boarding. Two hours before scheduled departure. In Bend, Oregon.

    Seniors, of which there are many in Bend, trying to balance on one foot then the other as their shoeless soles are wanded. Grandmother's purses being completely emptied of their contents, and stirred around by a pimple-faced prep schooler. Young mothers being instructed to drink a portion of the contents of their infants baby bottle contents. What? They are going to poison the flight crew with baby formula? And after we are through this nonsense down comes a metal curtain to isolate the completely sterile waiting room from the rest of the terminal. No plane in sight, of course. It was probably just leaving Portland.

    Not ten minutes later an elderly gent needs to use the bathroom. It's on the other side of the curtain. After much pleading the cadet finally relents. Coming back in poor fellow was subjected to a repeat performance with the strip down and wanding.

    Ussama bin Laden couldn't find Bend, Oregon even if they had written the GPS coordinates on the inside cover of his Quran. The picture of the idiocy of officialdom on display that day has never left me.

    Not as bad as your story Shepherd, but a pathetic foreshadowing of what was to come...
     
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    Standing in the monitor one day coming into the nuclear plant, felt the need to vent a little pressure. Didn't do that again.
     
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    The TSA finds nearly 10 guns per day, a significant number of which are loaded. Over 3,300 in 2016.
     
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    Which means they miss 190 guns per day, a significant number of which are loaded. Over 69,300 in 2016.
     
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    And, how many of those belonged to "terrorists" vs. how many were just a "daily carries" that someone forgot to leave at home.

    But, it does beg the question if only a significant number were loaded - what's the point of carrying a gun that isn't loaded?
     
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    This is hardly new nor limited to the TSA. Miss Attention Whore Cheerleader decided to get her social media ten minutes of fame.

    Security (even pre-TSA) had little tolerance for security jokes at the checkpoints. In my youth, I made an off-hand comment about a bomb to my coworker as we were passing through the checkpoint. Fortunately, that yielded just an admonishment like Miss TwinkleFinger got.
     
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    Pre-TSA also seemed to have a better quality of agents too.
     
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    Agree, but also a bit of an overreaction by the cheerleader and the news media.
     
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    In some places. The problem was that things were pretty inconsistent. That was the point of the TSA, but making things consistent by making everything uniformly bad is a problem.

    I remember one time I was trying to take a hard drive (not inside a computer) through security. Security wanted me to "turn it on." I pointed out without the rest of the computer that would be hard. While we were discussing this I had passed my briefcase (full of tapes and diskettes) through to my coworker who was on the secure side without it being screened. I had to go get a United employee to tell Security it was OK to take the disk on the flight.
     
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    So this is their symbol?
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    We shouldn’t be paying collectively for the airline’s security problems. Put the cost on the ticket. Let people decide what level of security they want to pay for.

    The chances an airliner is ever used again as a battering ram, went to zero, a few minutes before Flight 93 went down.

    Useless expensive security theatre, paid for by many who don’t use it via a payment system that anything but efficient.
     
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    But that is what millennials are taught to do. Don't treat me in a way I don't want to be treated or I will social media you out....
     
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    This is not just a millennial problem, all age groups do it, although millennials may be more aware of the power of social media.
     
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    My whole problem with the tsa is it was a solution looking for a problem. The terrorists on 911 didn’t get any weapons by security that were prohibited.

    If there was any failure at all it was in our immigration policies and how flight crew were trained to handle high jacking.

    The TSA is nothing but a power grab by the federal gov veiled in a cloak of making us safe. Complete ******** from day one
     
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    This is all pretty much true, except that I would say that 9/11 had more to do with failures in our intelligence community than with immigration policy. There will always be holes in any system, and there will always be folks trying to find those holes to exploit for malicious purposes. It's the job of the intelligence community to find the holes and those looking to exploit them before they are successful. Some of the revelations over the past year or so about our illustrious intelligence agencies perhaps indicate that [still] isn't their common focus, which means that the foundational problem still exists.

    The "Hi, Jack!" jokes and the like have been around for decades, and almost everyone is aware that there are certain places where they are not funny. With that being said, this case sounds like a gross overreaction by the TSA, but so is blowing it up on social media. Anyone standing in a security line anywhere should be prepared to be questioned about something that security thinks might be a concern, especially if done in a respectful way, without having a mini-meltdown.


    JKG
     
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    What is disturbing is people that forget they're carrying a loaded weapon.
     
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    True. Understandable with the girl though, she's young.