How hard is the pull? steep grade? pretty level? I really wouldn't yank it hard.Is it advisable to tow/pull a c182 out of a hangar by the tail tie down?
Yes, but I can't get it over the hump at new pavement by myself.No room for a towbar on the nose wheel to push out?
Considering there’s a factory glider tow hook option for the 182, that tail tie down isn’t as fragile as folks think. The forces imparted to the same location are pretty big when doing that.
But I get it, when folks say to be careful doing stuff like that.
Some friends have a 182 that they winch into their hangar that way, and have for years. Same problem with a hump where the grass meets the concrete. They push it to the edge, then hook up the tail tie down to a winch and let it do the hard work.So denverpilot, you fly a 182, would you tow by the tail in my above description?
Some friends have a 182 that they winch into their hangar that way, and have for years. Same problem with a hump where the grass meets the concrete. They push it to the edge, then hook up the tail tie down to a winch and let it do the hard work.
Considering there’s a factory glider tow hook option for the 182, that tail tie down isn’t as fragile as folks think. The forces imparted to the same location are pretty big when doing that.
But I get it, when folks say to be careful doing stuff like that.
Jesus, they pass a medical?
Eat a steak
It'll be a sad day when I can't push my amphib skywagon into the hangar by myself
Well that day is coming, though it may not seem like it right now. Age has a way of humbling the youthful arrogance right out of ya!
It was a funny response though.
I've seen them bent to **** trying to pull it out of mud. Cracks the aftmost bulkhead, tares the skin, buckles the stringer. Its about $10k to fix that, with a USED aft bulkhead.
I've seen them bent to **** trying to pull it out of mud. Cracks the aftmost bulkhead, tares the skin, buckles the stringer. Its about $10k to fix that, with a USED aft bulkhead.
There is a big difference between ground movement and towing gliders. Towing gliders your airborne and any side load on the hook pulls the tail sideways and it moves in the air. Any side load on that hook/ring on the ground gets translated through the fuselage to the resistance of the nose gear, and the aft fuselage bears the load. Hence the tail damaged as described above.
I’m not familiar with the current tow hook installation for C182s. I think Previous installations included a Y brace inside the aft fuselage.
POH advice doesn't always carry much weight around here.I would check the POH. It may not be advised...
Never noticed struts on my 140....Y-rope around the struts for mine. That's what the book says (PA-28).
The Tow hook does have a little bit different geometry than tie down ring and may put less bending stress on the bolt than the tie down ring does when pulling backwards.
they are oleo struts...you'll find them under the wings if you look very carefullyNever noticed struts on my 140....
the topic is talking about cessnas and pushing on the struts.they are oleo struts...you'll find them under the wings if you look very carefully
Really? I thought it was about krispy kreme donuts and pour over coffee...the topic is talking about cessnas and pushing on the struts.
POA > POHPOH advice doesn't always carry much weight around here.
see: https://www.pilotsofamerica.com/com...p-though-in-cold-weather.107393/#post-2413355
Catch up, Clarkbar.Really? I thought it was about krispy kreme donuts and pour over coffee...
I like a glazed donut with a dark roast. Of course a pressure brew is always better than a pour over.Catch up, Clarkbar.
BTW I don't think towing a Cherokee by the main lg is kosher. You got a source that says it's a good idea?
If you're looking for common ground that's three blocks down on the left. No donuts there.Well if nothing else we have similar taste in snacks.
My tears are salty.If you're looking for common ground that's three blocks down on the left. No donuts there.
Catch up, Clarkbar.
BTW I don't think towing a Cherokee by the main lg is kosher. You got a source that says it's a good idea?
I'd like to see that. My POH, and up to -E that I've seen, make no mention other than towing by the nosewheel.My POH describes the procedure.