Things on the Yoke

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  1. luvflyin

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    So I’m up with a CFI getting a rental checkout. I gots my trusty IPad mini in the thing that clamps to the yoke tube. He has his trusty whatever it was clamped to his yoke tube. The clamp thingy was bigger than any I’ve seen before. Not long after departing he says he needs to adjust it. No biggie, I just make sure I keep my fingers on the yoke. Later we’re doing something that needs me to get the nose down and it ain’t doing what I need. Yup, he had moved his clamp forward enough to interfere. Moral of the story is ‘controls free and correct’ is on the pre departure checklist for a reason and don’t be f’ing around with things that change that after you do the check. Another thing that was happening is I seemed to be having to fight the trim. It was a C177RG. I’ve flown them and fixed gear Cardinals before and they are very stable in pitch. I noticed he was doing a lot of stuff on his pad and doing it with heavy enough fingers that I think it was messing up my trim.
     
  2. JScarry

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    Good point.

    If I put one style of clamp on the passenger side of the T210 the controls are free and correct until I pull out the cabin air knob. Then the yoke won’t turn all the way.
     
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    It’s not only gadgets mounted onto the yoke, but also other things like kneeboards. All of that stuff drives me crazy, especially when I see the person readjusting themselves because it gets in the way.
     
  4. Dan Thomas

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    Too many gadgets. When I was your age we used a paper map, a pencil, and a watch. That map was cumbersome enough in a small cockpit.
     
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    forget gadgets, my passengers cant seem to understand and follow the command - that pedal looking thingy is NOT YOUR FOOTREST
     
  6. Ryanb

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    Might not be able to do it as easy in your Piper, but whenever I take a new passenger in the 172, I always push their seat back enough so that they can’t reach the pedals.
     
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    Similar problems here, but stick instead of yoke.

    I'm flying a Tecnam Echo LSA, the cockpit is very small to begin with and has center sticks, and I have to have my seat all the way forward and use a cushion to get full travel on the pedals. Consequently my knees are against the panel and my kneeboard/iPad bumps into the throttle when I move my leg out of the way of the stick. I usually take the kneeboard off when I have my destination airport in sight, just so it can't get in the way during landing.

    A passenger just exacerbates the situation. My wife is shorter than I am (I'm 5'3" and she's 4'11") so she doesn't like having the seat all the way back since then she can't see out the front. We try to find a compromise position that keeps her out of the way of the controls.

    I'm really looking forward to having a plane that has a yoke or a side stick instead of this #%^@ thing between my knees.
     
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    I think the old adage was "Nothing fills a cockpit faster than a sectional." :)
     
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    One hand on the yoke is almost too much. More like thumb and forefinger. <- he said forefinger, not foreflight.
     
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    if your trim wheel is between the seats, make sure to prep your right seat pax about staying out of the way or that at least warn them that you might be bumping them out of the way on a regular basis.
     
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    Tell him to put that crap in the back or GTFO!
     
  12. Kenny Phillips

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    I'll take "Things on the Yoke" for $100, Alex ...
    I had my Lowrance GPS on the yoke more than two decades ago, and it was the heck in the way. I'd find some way to mount my iPad elsewhere. Perhaps on top of the glare shield, with the display reversed, as a HUD.
     
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    I can understand that frustration...I wouldn't want bulky things on the yoke either. That said, I've always used a yoke mounted iPad mini 4 and I try to use a yoke mount whenever possible. I've found it makes a huge difference (for me personally) to have it yoke mounted instead of on my knee. I prefer to not have it on my knee as it requires me to have my head down more than I'd like. If it is on the yoke I can implement it in my scan very easily.
     
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    Maybe he was purposely messing with your actual trim while you were looking the other way. I've had people do that to me. :mad:
     
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    That's cruel. Though I like to turn on the seat heater for my passenger when driving on a hot day.
     
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    I've never been able to tolerate ANYTHING clipped to the yoke. The chart/GPS/iPAD goes in the right seat or if that is occupied gets held by the person sitting in the right seat.
     
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    Right on brother, put them to work.
     
  18. BigBadLou

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    Tru dat!
    Why clip it to the yoke when they can mount their maxiPad right up on top of the panel? Right in front of their face is the best for perfect picture. They're not looking outside anyway, staring only at their toys so what's the harm? :D

    (while facetious, I am still partially serious)
     
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    Never been a fan of strapping things to the yoke
     
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    I agree with nothing on the yoke. When I was younger I was all about kneeboards and yoke mounts, but as I gain more and more experience I prefer a less cluttered cockpit. Ipad for plates and charts, and I look at it when I need to, then put it away. No reason for all that stuff in a cockpit.
     
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    Meh, that just need to be addressed with a more solid preflight briefing:

    "See those pedals?...don't hit them or we will die, got it?"
     
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    I don't know where, but read of a fellow pilot that sat in the back seat and would just lean forward or back whenever the pilot had just retrimmed.
     
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    hmm, so it's the leaning.... always thought it was the actual passing of the gallon of whiskey back and forth. Good to know!
     
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    I had a yoke mount for the iPad for a little bit and hated it..
     
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    And remember to compensate for the whiskey getting lighter as you go along...
     
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