The testing center has accused me of cheating on my IR written.

[weilke]

So if I understand you correctly. No one should take anything they read on the internet as anything but a joke.

Example: The internet tells the authorities, via a post, that xyz house will be invaded by gun wielding thieves who intend to kill the occupants because money is owed for a drug deal. Should the authorities ignore the post because everything on the internet is garbage? Should they make an effort to protect the occupants? If the authorities ignore the post and the occupants are slaughtered including a few children, should the authorities be held accountable, after all, they had a warning?

Cops frequently go to social media to get leads in investigations. Plenty of property crimes that get solved because the dumb ****s who commit them post instagram pictures on which the loot is clearly visible. Felons who got arrested after they posed with firearms they were prohibited from possessing etc. I talked to the deputy who covers our local high schools, a good part of his work is keeping an eye on the social media 'chatter'. He has a few different profiles and through the 'friending' and 'tagging' system many of the kids dont know that everything they post gets back to officer friendly. Whenever we have those 'social media threat' or 'gun in the school' incidents, they usually get cleared up pretty quickly.

 

[-KLB-]

Cops frequently go to social media to get leads in investigations. Plenty of property crimes that get solved because the dumb ****s who commit them post instagram pictures on which the loot is clearly visible. Felons who got arrested after they posed with firearms they were prohibited from possessing etc. I talked to the deputy who covers our local high schools, a good part of his work is keeping an eye on the social media 'chatter'. He has a few different profiles and through the 'friending' and 'tagging' system many of the kids dont know that everything they post gets back to officer friendly. Whenever we have those 'social media threat' or 'gun in the school' incidents, they usually get cleared up pretty quickly.

And sometimes they get downright lazy. Allegedly there is at least one case of a crime stoppers style post with video going somewhat viral. A lady comments, tagging her boyfriend, so he can see it. The posting jurisdiction decides it is a tip, and somehow gets an arrest warrant, never mind investigation, or that he lives, and was 4 states away at the time.

 

[weilke]

And sometimes they get downright lazy. Allegedly there is at least one case of a crime stoppers style post with video going somewhat viral. A lady comments, tagging her boyfriend, so he can see it. The posting jurisdiction decides it is a tip, and somehow gets an arrest warrant, never mind investigation, or that he lives, and was 4 states away at the time.

Thats why I said 'leads'. Its on the judge in whatever jurisdiction that happened in if he signed a warrant based on nothing more than a 'tag' to a social media post.

 

[Zeldman]

Wait a second..... shouldn't we be allowed to have a ''cheat sheet'' during a FAA test.??

I mean we are allowed to use a checklist in the airplane during a check ride....

 

[Witmo]

I've seen the National Park Service fine drone operators who were foolish enough to post yourtube videos of drone flights in National Parks where they are prohibited. The fine is something on the order of an amu.

 

[denverpilot]

You must be tons of fun at a party.

I’ll let you in on a secret. Nobody talks about their IT strategy or how dumb their company looks online because they don’t hire professionals, at parties.

If you’re talking about that at parties, God help you.

He works in IT. Thinking everyone else is an idiot is part of the job description.

Everyone? Nah. Just the ones like this one...

That’s today’s “the printer isn’t working” post.

So if I understand you correctly. No one should take anything they read on the internet as anything but a joke.

Example: The internet tells the authorities, via a post, that xyz house will be invaded by gun wielding thieves who intend to kill the occupants because money is owed for a drug deal. Should the authorities ignore the post because everything on the internet is garbage? Should they make an effort to protect the occupants? If the authorities ignore the post and the occupants are slaughtered including a few children, should the authorities be held accountable, after all, they had a warning?

Pretty much. Find me a case where “the internet” did that. Good luck!

Meanwhile calculate the false alarm rate. Let us know what it is.

If you find it’s a measurable positive result for society, let us know.

But it has little to do with reporting a guy for joking about a non-question on a test acting like a proctor is coming in a room under camera surveillance.

Well, unless you think people under 24 hour camera surveillance by cops kill themselves. But that could never happen to poor Epstein. LOL.

Let's see: Bryan, after a prior post about doing stuff against the regs and the resultant result, does essentially the same thing again, and gets the same result. The fact (if it is one) that someone want to punish him is irrelevant. It's a strawman; anyone who was interested in the integrity of testing could have reported it in good faith.
You are blaming the wrong person for wasting the FAA's and testing center's time.

Nah. It’s highly relevant. Someone reporting a joke in good faith is just a run of the mill idiot. Someone reporting to punish is an azz hole.

There’s a big difference between the two.

Cops frequently go to social media to get leads in investigations.

Historically FAA doesn’t. But if they want to start, fine. It’s not the Punisher’s job.

But hey. Like I said. Call the cops. I killed somebody today. Blood everywhere. Coming to kill you next.

See? You have a “warning” now! LOL.

It’s on social media so it must be true!

Hurry. Report it!

Meanwhile still nobody discusses that the camera... that the idiot punisher guy had access to ... shows the truth. And nobody did anything illegal.

Y’all with your stories of killers and such are so cute.

I wonder why y’all pretend the camera wasn’t there? Hope that it’ll show something different?

It’s some sort of codependent thing where you all like the beatings, so everybody else should be beat, isn’t it?

We’ve already seen the post where dad beat someone so he wants everybody else beat.

Go Punishers! Rah rah. Report everything you see.

Especially report all your customers making jokes you’re too dumb to get ... about non-questions on social media... for a test y’all regularly recommend cheating on, here.

I will let everyone know how many reports are made of my murder spree above by the badass Punishers of the Internet above... who never lie online ever... and always follow their own advice about such things because everything they post is true. LOL.

I’m expecting the count to be zero from all you internet heroes.

But your bull**** about the importance of reporting untrue things you read online is entertaining, which is why most of us are here. Especially when you know a camera watching the test was mandatory.

PoA Warriors paraphrased:

“I want to be as dumb as that guy someday and soothe my twisted inner desire to punish people online too!!! Did you know some cops once caught a real criminal from an online post once? It gave me a boner because usually they just tell me to fill out my own report for my insurance company. Yay they caught 1/1000!”

 

[denverpilot]

Ahh, Bryan is the one who included the companies social media into his joke. Its not like they went out to look for his post, they got a 'dinggg, you have been tagged on 6PCs post' message on their page. Can't wave it in their face and then expect to be ignored.

Uh oh. They got a ding. What time did they get that ding again?

Waved what in their face? Their own fear that their proctor wasn’t doing the job, and the camera wasn’t working?

Maybe they do worry about that. I wonder why...

 

[smv]

That’s today’s “the printer isn’t working” post.

Hey... If it fits, it should work... Jus' sayin'...

 

[jonvcaples]

Freedom is a wonderful thing, unfortunately it also comes with responsibilities and should be used in conjunction with common sense. The OP thought he was posting a humorous thing. Yes we have freedom of speech but that does not mean every thought should be articulated. The old saws about not yelling fire in a theater or arguing with a cop spring readily to mind. This is a possibly unpleasant reminder that sometimes it is better to be silent.

Sometimes the line between humor and stupid is hard to discern so when in doubt it is usually better to stay well clear of the line. Liberty is not license.

 

[overdrive148]

I've seen the National Park Service fine drone operators who were foolish enough to post yourtube videos of drone flights in National Parks where they are prohibited. The fine is something on the order of an amu.

Funny enough, it is legal to fly drones over national parks - just illegal to take off or land in them since they own the land not the airspace.

 

[weilke]

Uh oh. They got a ding. What time did they get that ding again?

Whenever someone opened their facebook page, probably after 6PC was done with his test. He went and told them, they didn't go out looking for the information.

 

[weilke]

I’ll let you in on a secret. Nobody talks about their IT strategy or how dumb their company looks online because they don’t hire professionals, at parties.

If you’re talking about that at parties, God help you.



Everyone? Nah. Just the ones like this one...

That’s today’s “the printer isn’t working” post.



Pretty much. Find me a case where “the internet” did that. Good luck!

Meanwhile calculate the false alarm rate. Let us know what it is.

If you find it’s a measurable positive result for society, let us know.

But it has little to do with reporting a guy for joking about a non-question on a test acting like a proctor is coming in a room under camera surveillance.

Well, unless you think people under 24 hour camera surveillance by cops kill themselves. But that could never happen to poor Epstein. LOL.



Nah. It’s highly relevant. Someone reporting a joke in good faith is just a run of the mill idiot. Someone reporting to punish is an azz hole.

There’s a big difference between the two.



Historically FAA doesn’t. But if they want to start, fine. It’s not the Punisher’s job.

But hey. Like I said. Call the cops. I killed somebody today. Blood everywhere. Coming to kill you next.

See? You have a “warning” now! LOL.

It’s on social media so it must be true!

Hurry. Report it!

Meanwhile still nobody discusses that the camera... that the idiot punisher guy had access to ... shows the truth. And nobody did anything illegal.

Y’all with your stories of killers and such are so cute.

I wonder why y’all pretend the camera wasn’t there? Hope that it’ll show something different?

It’s some sort of codependent thing where you all like the beatings, so everybody else should be beat, isn’t it?

We’ve already seen the post where dad beat someone so he wants everybody else beat.

Go Punishers! Rah rah. Report everything you see.

Especially report all your customers making jokes you’re too dumb to get ... about non-questions on social media... for a test y’all regularly recommend cheating on, here.

I will let everyone know how many reports are made of my murder spree above by the badass Punishers of the Internet above... who never lie online ever... and always follow their own advice about such things because everything they post is true. LOL.

I’m expecting the count to be zero from all you internet heroes.

But your bull**** about the importance of reporting untrue things you read online is entertaining, which is why most of us are here. Especially when you know a camera watching the test was mandatory.

PoA Warriors paraphrased:

“I want to be as dumb as that guy someday and soothe my twisted inner desire to punish people online too!!! Did you know some cops once caught a real criminal from an online post once? It gave me a boner because usually they just tell me to fill out my own report for my insurance company. Yay they caught 1/1000!”

My ISP bills me by the number of characters displayed on my screen, so I usually have you on ignore for your 'wall of words' posts. Curiosity got the better of me and I checked what you had to say, and it hasn't changed a bit in 10 years. You are as abrasive and annoying as ever.

 

[Kritchlow]

UGH!!!!! EXACT SAME SCENARIO AS LAST TIME!!!!!!
3 hours before my exam I posted a joke on facebook, someone screenshot it and once again...

It was a good joke too. Fortunately, I posted it 3 hours before I took the test so the time stamps should save me.

Before you say, I have this coming. I know it and I am not going to stop.

View attachment 82777

IMO, that is what will eventually lead to real trouble with the Feds.

 

[schmookeeg]

Fake news. IT people neither attend, nor get invited to parties of any sort.

 

[denverpilot]

My ISP bills me by the number of characters displayed on my screen, so I usually have you on ignore for your 'wall of words' posts. Curiosity got the better of me and I checked what you had to say, and it hasn't changed a bit in 10 years. You are as abrasive and annoying as ever.

You should get a better ISP.

As far as whatever the rest was about, sounds like a personal preference thing. I’m not for everybody, don’t try to be, and really don’t care if you’re bothered by that.

But it’s interesting you wanted to share your Tinder preferences with everyone.

Smootchies.

 

[denverpilot]

Whenever someone opened their facebook page, probably after 6PC was done with his test. He went and told them, they didn't go out looking for the information.

If they opened it later the test was over and the camera system was there nearby awaiting their review.

And remember it wasn’t about checking for cheating. It was about punishment.

Nice try. Try again. Think harder.

 

[chartbundle]

Fake news. IT people neither attend, nor get invited to parties of any sort.

"I Don’t Want to Belong to Any Club That Will Accept People Like Me as a Member"

 

[flyingron]

Humor has no place in the FAA hierarchy.

We at the FAA do not have a sense of humor that we are aware of.

 

[Half Fast]

We at the FAA do not have a sense of humor that we are aware of.

Not quite true. New FAA motto: "We can't laugh until you can't laugh."

 

[Weekend Warrior]

IMO, that is what will eventually lead to real trouble with the Feds.

I'm an investigator for the feds (not the FAA), and I agree. Keep poking the bear, just to find out what happens, and you might not like what you discover. Eventually, they will get tired of dealing with him and start expanding their investigation. Better make sure your flying is 100% by the book, all the time.
Then all his supporters on here will cry foul, etc.

 

[flyingron]

I worked for five years for the US Army (as a civilian). A few of my pranks got me into some hot water. The strangest one is when I caused a mail failure message to be sent out to one of the lists that read "Your mail could not be delivered for the following reason: slight weapons mishap at BRL." What was odd to me was that some people thought that it might have happened. Yeah, it happens all the time, this is why we had to handle it in the mail system.

 

[denverpilot]

The old saws about not yelling fire in a theater or arguing with a cop spring readily to mind.

The fire thing is a perfect example of protecting idiots who can’t look around and notice there isn’t a fire, just like the idiot who thought an internet joke was real.

As far as the cop goes, depends on the cop and the department. Some have very low educational standards for hiring and it’s the best job Bubba could get after high school. Again, true. Just watch out for the the dumb ones. The cop even gets full personal liability immunity, it’s so bad. Had to slap body cameras on them, because the dumb ones were so honest and forthright.

Both panicking idiots about fires in theaters and bad cops are deeper threats to society and your personal safety than a joke about an aviation test facility that had cameras and a proctor supposedly not doing their job.

And a vindictive staff member who dislikes jokes so much he wants to punish people instead of look at timestamps, footage, and ... oh you know... his job.

There may be two idiots in this story but only one has broadcast clear malicious intent while hiding behind “the rules”. Don’t forget that.

We should definitely defend the malicious person over the non-malicious one. That’s smart.

So basically... Never inconvenience a really dumb azz hole. It’s too bad they don’t wear t-shirts or something identifiable.

As far as IT jokes go, I take those in stride. They pay us a lot of money not to want to “punish” the computer illiterate. LOL. It’s a good trade off. Something between two and six times the people who can’t figure out they plugged their USB cable into their Ethernet jack.

 

[Weekend Warrior]

10 pages of thread and I still have some unanswered questions for the op:

Did the test proctor actually say that he was reporting you just to punish you, or are you (and apparently Denverpilot) just assuming that?

Did he report you for cheating, or for saying you were cheating (or for your post)?

Why did you tag the testing center, instead of making the joke without the tagging?

 

[timwinters]

You are as abrasive and annoying as ever.

He definitely can be but like you're not just as bad or worse...

...and then there's me!

 

[timwinters]

Sometimes the line between humor and stupid is hard to discern so when in doubt it is usually better to stay well clear of the line. Liberty is not license.

oh, freakin' please. It was a JOKE on Facebook. Not a tweet threatening to bomb the place. Come out from under your rock a bit more often.

 

[nauga]

Did the test proctor actually say that he was reporting you just to punish you, or are you (and apparently Denverpilot) just assuming that?

It appears to me that DP has gone on a multi-day rant based on something he read on the internet. The same internet he says only fools believe. OTOH he’s peppered it with rants about police and bureaucrats and anyone who’s not an IT type, so I’m sure we’ll hear why his assessment is different, because we’re all idiots, y’know.

Nauga,
who doesn’t care

 

[nauga]

He definitely can be but like you're not just as bad or worse...

At least he’s mercifully brief.

Nauga,
and a big brown wall

 

[denverpilot]

It appears to me that DP has gone on a multi-day rant based on something he read on the internet. The same internet he says only fools believe. OTOH he’s peppered it with rants about police and bureaucrats and anyone who’s not an IT type, so I’m sure we’ll hear why his assessment is different, because we’re all idiots, y’know.

Nauga,
who doesn’t care

You’re clearly not an idiot.

The peppering was with things a hell of a lot more important than the oh-so-important FAA written test or anybody cheating on it, just for the folks here who pretend they’d report anything on the internet to anybody.

 

[PeterNSteinmetz]

I'm an investigator for the feds (not the FAA), and I

Oh dear.

 

[wsuffa]

Oh dear.

Maybe he's just here to help us...

The more I read in this thread, the more I'm reminded of Kathy Griffin....

 

[smv]

Maybe he's just here to help us...

The more I read in this thread, the more I'm reminded of Kathy Griffin....

It makes you want to puke??

 

[Eric Brunelle]

Freedom is a wonderful thing, unfortunately it also comes with responsibilities and should be used in conjunction with common sense. The OP thought he was posting a humorous thing. Yes we have freedom of speech but that does not mean every thought should be articulated. The old saws about not yelling fire in a theater or arguing with a cop spring readily to mind. This is a possibly unpleasant reminder that sometimes it is better to be silent.

Sometimes the line between humor and stupid is hard to discern so when in doubt it is usually better to stay well clear of the line. Liberty is not license.

Yes - that's the whole point. If you have to explain to someone how and why the joke is funny, then it's not really that funny. Tell that joke to the wrong person, and there might be consequences based on them not seeing your humor. That said, I've put my foot in my mouth a few times...more than a few...

And I'm not going to tell my unfunny (to some) comments here in case they somehow get to the wrong person.

 

[schmookeeg]

Yes - that's the whole point. If you have to explain to someone how and why the joke is funny, then it's not really that funny.

In this instance, it is easier for both my ego and my worldview to assume the joke was just too smart for the room.

 

[Eric Brunelle]

In this instance, it is easier for both my ego and my worldview to assume the joke was just too smart for the room.

There you go...

 

[denverpilot]

I'm an investigator for the feds (not the FAA), and I agree. Keep poking the bear, just to find out what happens, and you might not like what you discover. Eventually, they will get tired of dealing with him and start expanding their investigation. Better make sure your flying is 100% by the book, all the time.
Then all his supporters on here will cry foul, etc.

That’s not generally how FAA works, but thanks for letting us know how your department handles annoying but innocent people.

Of course you highlighted the real problem. In a system with law books stacked so deep you need whole libraries to contain them, nobody is innocent.

And regulators simply want to control people. Not actually protect them from anything really dangerous.

Don’t bother me. I have a pension and you don’t, plebe. I have other important things to do like expand my investigation of the last guy or gal who annoyed me with their non-harmful behavior.

 

[Kritchlow]

Oh dear.

Maybe he's just here to help us...

The more I read in this thread, the more I'm reminded of Kathy Griffin....

It makes you want to puke??

That’s not generally how FAA works, but thanks for letting us know how your department handles annoying but innocent people.

Of course you highlighted the real problem. In a system with law books stacked so deep you need whole libraries to contain them, nobody is innocent.

And regulators simply want to control people. Not actually protect them from anything really dangerous.

Don’t bother me. I have a pension and you don’t, plebe. I have other important things to do like expand my investigation of the last guy or gal who annoyed me with their non-harmful behavior.

Perhaps I am reading too much into these responses, but they just don’t seem fair to the @WeekendWarrior guy that posted... in my opinion.

 

[smv]

The more I read in this thread, the more I'm reminded of Kathy Griffin....

It makes you want to puke??

Perhaps I am reading too much into these responses, but they just don’t seem fair to the @WeekendWarrior guy that posted... in my opinion.

Either you mistakenly quoted me or you completely missed the joke (which had nothing to do with anything "WeekendWarrior" said...)

 

[nauga]

You’re clearly not an idiot.

Count it as taking a lesson from you if you'd like. I don't believe that's an accurate reflection of your opinion of me, but this isn't about me and I don't particularly care.

The peppering was with things a hell of a lot more important than the oh-so-important FAA written test or anybody cheating on it, just for the folks here who pretend they’d report anything on the internet to anybody.

I believe oral hygiene and proper tire inflation are important, but I'm not ranting about them in a marginally relevant thread. I think you're cherry-picking and obfuscating and just plain making **** up to support your own agenda.

Nauga,
done

 

[Kritchlow]

Either you mistakenly quoted me or you completely missed the joke (which had nothing to do with anything "WeekendWarrior" said...)

Quite possibly missed the joke.

 

[smv]

Quite possibly missed the joke.

My "puke" quip was in reference to being reminded of Kathy Gifford.