(I did search and did not find a post, please direct me to an existing post if I missed it.) I am starting my Private Pilot training. I have my medical, IACRA submitted, logbook, and a 1.5 hour flight with a CFI logged. I have signed up for an in-person, classroom-based ground school, and I am already studying using Embry Riddle Avation 101, and a couple of BoldMethod courses. I am 53 and I can tell that I do not learn as fluidly as I used to. Flight time with a CFI here is pretty spendy. One school here charges $159/hour for the plane, plus $65 an hour for a basic CFI, an advanced CFI can be up to $100. They also charge straight time for brief and de-brief. So for a 1.5 hour flight, it might be: 30 mins brief at $65 1.5 hour wet rental at $159 1.5 hour instructor at $65 30 min de-brief at $65 8% tax $32 Total for 1.5 hours $433 So this gives an average of $288/hour of training based on the above 1.5 hour flight with 1 hour of brief/de-brief. There is a buy-ahead, get lower rates subscription plan that makes sense if you plan to fly regularly in a known period. There is another school a little farther away that has lower rates (172 wet rental at $140) but I am not sure of their instructor rate and their brief/de/brief policy. I assume that their instructor rate is similar, need to check. To help keep the expensive flight time to a minimum, I plan to take the ground school this winter and pass the written before getting into the flight training. My hope is this approach will minimize the amount of non-flight learning that has to be done at flight rates. == End of long, boring, background information. == I have a friend that has an Arrow 140 and loves to fly. He is a private pilot of many years -- he taught me to fly ultralights 33 years ago. So my idea is to spend some time in the right seat of his plane getting some of the basics down, and just generally becoming familiar with powered GA flight. Plus we can get a hundred-dollar hamburger So my question is: 1) Is it legal to have a PP/PIC let a student fly from the right seat? 2) I assume these would not be logged hours since the student is a passenger and the PIC is not a CFI. So then, armed with some cheaper stick time and having passed the written, my thought is that I could spend close to the minimum amount of expensive time need with a CFI in the flight school's plane. Thoughts? Comments? Ridicule? Pitfalls?