STL Approach and Departure

[Notatestpilot]

When is it permitted to call Saint Louis Approach or departure ‘Gateway’ Appraoch or Departure?
I have heard of an airliner call Gateway instead of the typical St Louis App/dep...
please let me know.
Thanks.

 

[RyanB]

What do they normally respond with? In all reality, it probably doesn’t matter an ounce.

 

[Rgbeard]

I doubt that they care. I have flown a lot in StL and never heard it myself.

you can probably call them Fred.

 

[RussR]

I don't see any official reference calling it "Gateway Approach" in any of the usual spots. A/FD, instrument approach charts, etc. For example:



Perhaps "Gateway Approach" was a term used years ago and the airline pilot you heard was just being nostalgic?

 

[iamtheari]

you can probably call them Fred.

You mean “Fred Approach”

 

[cowman]

Been through STL airspace a lot and I haven't heard it either.

It probably doesn't matter though, as mentioned above I don't think they care beyond any possible confusion. Sometimes when getting passed over to a new center I forget what the name of it was and I just call "center" and they'll reply with the correct nomenclature.

 

[RyanB]

I doubt that they care. I have flown a lot in StL and never heard it myself.

you can probably call them Fred.

ATC only responds to pilots who speak robotically with proper lingo, so I doubt that would work.

 

[jordane93]

Never heard gateway approach. Probably doesn’t matter. I just say “approach” or “departure” and omit the name usually.

 

[luvflyin]

When is it permitted to call Saint Louis Approach or departure ‘Gateway’ Appraoch or Departure?
I have heard of an airliner call Gateway instead of the typical St Louis App/dep...
please let me know.
Thanks.

If you are going to fly through the Arch, Gateway would be the one to use

 

[NoHeat]

I call them “St Louis Approach.”

But you know, it’s a fairly sleepy place in the radio spectrum. There can’t be many Class B Approaches that are less busy. Surely they’ve got enough time to entertain the question, “how should I call you?”

 

[kep5niner]

I call them “St Louis Approach.”

But you know, it’s a fairly sleepy place in the radio spectrum. There can’t be many Class B Approaches that are less busy. Surely they’ve got enough time to entertain the question, “how should I call you?”

MCI is not far behind them..as far as “sleepy.” Not quite what I’m used to with most my time at MDW and ORD, stateside at least.

 

[Clip4]

To sound cool, Call them Crazy Louie Approach.

 

[Initial Fix]

I’m in Saint Louis. I can’t remember the Tracon approach / departure folks calling themselves Gateway. Maybe that was the case longer ago than my 30+ years of flying here. There is the Gateway Departure procedure.

 

[RussR]

There is the Gateway Departure procedure.

I wonder if that's what the OP heard.

 

[ldhilljr13]

On a similar vein, in Connecticut and parts of Massachusetts, the IP approach plates refer to "Yankee Approach," but I have never heard anyone use that term -- I've always heard (and used) "Bradley Approach" (for Bradley Airport KBDL).

 

[Zeldman]

Never heard gateway approach. Probably doesn’t matter. I just say “approach” or “departure” and omit the name usually.

I have done that when I forgot where I was going...

I do know that calling Phoenix approach Albuquerque is usually met with silence...

 

[jordane93]

I have done that when I forgot where I was going...

I do know that calling Phoenix approach Albuquerque is usually met with silence...

Those are fighting words lol

 

[Todd82]

I still like to call "Dayton approach" occasionally, to remind those Columbus folks know who invented aviation.