Is a pilot controlled airport the same as an uncontrolled airport? Just wondering.How 'bout pilots who call the runway in use at a pilot-controlled field the "active runway?"
I'm far more annoyed by those who stop mid-transmission to think about what they're going to say, while holding the PTT.
Nauga,
the wordsmith
Only if you remember that the FAA used to use “uncontrolled” terminology before they decided it was a bad idea.Is a pilot controlled airport the same as an uncontrolled airport? Just wondering.
And yet...pilots still know what you mean. I'm far more concerned with how people fly than what they say while they're flying as long as their message is conveyed.
Depends on how good* the pilots are, I suppose.Is a pilot controlled airport the same as an uncontrolled airport? Just wondering.
Some say "Cessna" which is unhelpful, as the approach speed can be anywhere from 50 knots to over 150 knots.
One of the more dangerous reasoning in aviation is that, "I was taught to . . .". That's exactly how poor technique gets spread. It's like a virus.
“Because my CFI told me to” should be grounds for a 709 ride.
Except in this case, AC90-66C addresses self announcing with the following guidance.
and
Where does it recommend “traffic” at the end of the transmission?
nobody said that about the CFI, but if enough 709 rides occur as a result of the same instructor, he probably should be evaluated as well.
And three of them are Ramona, Pomona, and Corona, but the locals just call them all, "County"
Nah, that doesn't bother me.
"active runway" only really bothers me when I have been listening to CTAF for the past 10 minutes while inbound and 3 people do it in a row and I then have to ask which runway is the active runway so I can decide which way I am going to land.
"Clearing the active" only bothers me because it's just as easy to say "clearing runway (number)" and that can give VERY useful information to the pilots that are five or ten miles out in planning their approach to the field, which makes it safer for everyone in the pattern.
If I hear either at an airport with only 1 landing surface, I just "harumph".
At Sugarbush with an active glider operation, the field crowns in the middle and it's impossible to see an airplane on the opposite end of the runway. We absolutely require radio communication that a plane is clear of the runway and what some pilots consider taxiways, i.e. the grass on either side of the pavement which is also used as a runway. Otherwise we need to wait until it taxis back towards the middle of the runway to get positive visual separation.
Old school. Which is to say, "done correctly".
Amazing what you can work out with competent controllers.
That's the way I think of it too. (I'm not saying that the extra word is a big deal, however.)Old school. Which is to say, "done correctly".
Think about it. If you hear a transmission but didn't get the whole message, what's the most important thing you want to know?
I want to know where it applied, not that it addressed "traffic" where it applied. When I hear that the name of the airport isn't where I'm flying, whatever was said is typically meaningless to me and I concentrate on something else.
did you reply, "mercy sakes alive, it looks like we got us a convoy!"
Since nobody else has explained: it refers to a video game in which three or four guys are outside the kill room discussing a plan of attack for killing all the opponents inside when one of them just runs inside yelling “Lerooooooooy Jenkiiiiins!!” and subsequently dies because he didn’t have any teammates to back him up
Your life is incomplete. Although I don’t think you’ll fully appreciate him.
