Potty solutions for cross country

What type of plane ? Can you remove a rear seat and convert it into some type of restroom setup like a camping potty or diy lav setup with blue water etcthat's
that's an interesting thought. might require a new weight and balance i suppose but if you're trying to solve a bathroom issue in a single engine there's merit to that suggestion.
 
Obviously the solution here is an aircraft upgrade.
 
"In days of old,
when divers were bold
and pee valves weren't invented.
The best latrine
was neoprene,
especially when rented."

Nauga,
and the ladder courtesy-flush

I used to scuba dive a lot off Okinawa and Guam. Most dive shops I went to had a dunk tank outside the shop and required renters to rinse/clean their own suits before turning them back in. Even still, I was pretty quick to buy my own wet-suits because….ewww.

I never tried a dry-suit but went diving a couple times with other divers that were wearing them. I quickly learned that a leaking dry-suit is dangerous and can become deadly in open water, even more so if diving under cover. The water can’t drain out so the suit just fills up and sinks the diver.
 
*sigh*

I sincerely apologize for the hijack and will not drag it further in this thread.

Nauga,
the hypocritic oaf
 
That's kind of messy in a drysuit.

Nauga,
warm and fuzzy
Considering you are generally wearing thermal underwear under a dry suit if the water is really cold, you'd get the opportunity to clean both the suit and the thermals. I'd really try to hold it.

I did get an opportunity to snorkel in a drysuit, in the Silfra Fissure in Iceland. We got all suited up

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and in we went, snorkeling in between two continents, in almost freezing water.

We were given strict instructions not to touch our neck seals, and avoid fussing with the arm and leg seals.

Being over 60 at the time, this tour operator required me to get a physicians approval. I'm not sure why, it was probably the least strenuous thing we did on that trip, the suit is super buoyant, and I don't think you could drown even if you tried.

Anyway, back to your potty discussion.
 
I'm too scared to ever try a dry suit absent a scuba tank.
 
Lady J adapter is functional. Wife has used it probably 10 or so times over the years. We cruise high and long, this is a good fall back. We're careful to not drink excessive fluids to limit the need. That said, I recommend practicing at home, say in the shower, to convince yourself that it is doable without a leak event. In a relatively small 4 seat plane that getting over the front seats to the back seats is problematic(have a bunch of stuff there for instance), it's a front seat thing. Move seat back, recline seat if able for more maneuvering room, rotate to a knees down position and proceed. It's a little bit of a pain but is certainly a relief for her. Have never had a spill. Keep some TP with your equipment.
 
On family trips in the Lance as the kids were growing up we always assumed we were 30+ minutes from a restroom.

We started with a small potty chair on the back seat floor, but then they outgrew it.

Had a few close calls and accidents, so we always brought Travel John’s (bags with gel) but as they grew were uncomfortable about privacy using next to other gender siblings.

A couple of our kids were late bedwetters and wore goodnites pullups at night when traveling. So they asked if they could wear a pullup for the plane ride “in case of emergency”. Rarely used them, but was discrete/private and allowed longer flights without stress.

I’m guessing this option wouldn’t fly with a lot of kids but ours were used to wearing at night so it wasn’t a big deal.

When wife was pregnant she was nervous about being away from a restroom on flights, so she wore a depend diaper on a couple of flights. Claimed she never used it but said it was worth it as an insurance policy.
 
You guys are a whole lot more hardcore on your schedule and timing than I am. Even when I was still driving a truck everyday I was never up against it so much I couldn't stop to pi$$ :oops:
 
Seems complicated... any personal experience? Seriously, looking for real-world recommendations, and we are wondering if people actually use this.
Hospitals use this now. Seems like a better option than others.
 
My wife refuses to slow her drinking. It’s maddening. I’m thirsty. Get over it or hold it. I struggle to sympathize. Don’t want to hold it, don’t keep drinking. Seems simple to me.
 
My wife created the 2-1/2 hour rule. I wasn’t happy about it but it is nice getting out and stretching. And we’ve stopped at a bunch of interesting airports that we otherwise would have missed.
 
The biggest problem with rest stops is the fatigue they have the potential to add, at least for me. When it’s actual IMC conditions, that rest stop means a whole approach and departure in IMC. I do however prefer the rest stop over trying to flying an ILS when I really got to go.
 
Orville and Wilbur flew in a coat and tie, and I didn’t see a port-o-let on their plane at Kitty Hawk. They stopped to pee in their personal plane, so should we. Disclaimer: yes they only flew roughly the wingspan of a 777 (that has pottys) and could probably hold it that long.
 
OP here. I was hanging out with my hangar neighbors last night. When I raised this topic, I got two very different responses!

1: his wife has dignity and would die before peeing in a plane with any kind of device so we are limited to 2 or 2.5 hour legs.

2: his wife wears adult diapers on longer trips, and he thinks a lot of others do and just won’t admit it. Said his wife would deny it if you asked her! Said it’s the best kept secret to eliminate all stress or planning around potty stops. said it’s no big deal and once you get over the mental hurdle, you realize it’s the most discreet option, is comfortable and can’t feel any wetness.

Based on this thread, it all comes down to personal preference. Sounds like most people just fly shorter legs for convenience, and those who want to fly longer legs will come up with a practical solution that works for them.
 
traveljohn.com might work.

They are also sold on Amazon.
 
We had quite a few of the Travel Johns that my wife would use when camping, and I kept one in the airplane as well. She needed it one time, and it was a bit awkward for her to use, but it did work with no mess.

Years ago, I got into a friend's Bonanza for a short flight for breakfast. There was a woman's ankle-high boot on the floor. He chuckled and put it in the back seat area. He said he was flying back from their place in Florida when he had to urinate, so he used a plastic bag. But it started to "weep" at the seam, so he reached into a clothes basket and pulled out one of his wife's boots to hold the plastic bag. He said he didn't want to take it home because he figured the dog would be following her around sniffing her right foot. He made me promise not to say anything.

About two weeks later, we went out to eat and saw him and his wife. They invited us to join them for dinner. As we sat down, he laughed at me and said, "She knows."
 
I've been watching Ice Pilots NWT 'reruns' on YouTube. YouTube shows me targeted ads. Those targeted ads now include chemical toilets. Thank you, POA.
 
We've yet to need it, but if stopping isn't an option someday the plan is the unisex travel johns, plenty of towels, spare grocery bags, and wet wipes. We typically have all those in the plane for various reasons anyway.

What about a combo of a diaper / Lady-j thingy? Seems like any leakage would be quickly absorbed.
 
Flying 135 flights in Alaska we frequently found full barf bags post flight that had no barf.... Fly commando!
 
Flying 135 flights in Alaska we frequently found full barf bags post flight that had no barf.... Fly commando!
At least they used the barf bag.

There was times I found the seat back pocket full. And I don't mean full of barf bags and printed emergency instructions.
 
At least they used the barf bag.

There was times I found the seat back pocket full. And I don't mean full of barf bags and printed emergency instructions.
That doesn't sound very ladylike...:blowingkisses:
 
For the OP, a diaper sounds like the best option. I actually liked the baby diaper idea...much cheaper than the dedicated travel johns.

In our family, I'm the one who can't hold it. With strategic dehydration, the longest I've gone is 3.5, and I was dying. If I had to go missed I was going to have to pee my pants. After that I bought some of the travel johns because it turns out doing the potty dance makes it harder to land a plane. Anyway, I never plan longer than 3 hour legs; I need to get out and stretch my legs by then anyway. We've never tested it, but I think any of the females in my house could go 6 if they tried.
 
I'm with the people that said to limit fluids. But not sure if it was mentioned to hydrate heavily at least the day before, but better if you can do it for two days. Then stop drinking after dinner to get the extra fluids out of the body. On the flight day when you limit fluids, you're hopefully not going to actually get dehydrated.

Next is when she does hydrate. I'd have her drink some water about 30 minutes out from your next stop. That will hopefully get the water through her system by the time you land. And it may take some experimenting to determine how much to drink before that fuel stop.

And one that's out there... I think it was John Deakin a few decades ago that came up with potato chips and Coke. For some reason drinking the Coke and eating the salty potato chips at altitude kept him from having to make extra stops. I never tried it, but others swore by it. (At least I think it was John.)
 
Back in the 1990's the instructor at the airspace physiology course I took as a PPL holder at Langley AFB said something that stuck with me.
We were learning some things about the body and general health. At one point He was talking about general physiology, not particularly flight-only. Maybe DVT and such. He said that his personal rule on road trips is to stop every hour on the hour no matter if he needed to stop or not. He stops anyway even if it was to just do a lap around the car. Just to stretch and get the blood moving. He said he feels so much better at the end of the trip and it doesn't add that much time.
Seems plausible to me, and while I've not practiced the idea to the minute, I do have that in the back of my mind and don't mind stopping a little more frequently than "needed".

For flight, yeah it adds quite a bit more time than ducking into a rest area lot for a quick lap around the car...but if she's gotta pee, I say stop and make her happy.

and if she's asking for a container/solution, I would 100% be looking for a solution with containment...gel or something to soak it up. No way would I want a container of pee sloshing around, smelling up the place and risking spills!

Don't the female military pilots use some sort of gel containing piddle packs? I've heard mention of that in some interviews.
 
Wife and I were on IFR X country, 9000 feet. "I need to use a bathroom" "How soon?" "Now".

Sometimes even landing as soon as you can just isn't the solution. I now carry a stash of these for the "unexpected".

BTW - this flying thing is supposed to be fun for the spouse as well. So I don't plan on flying more than her usual "capacity". Got to get out of the mindset of "I'm the driver of the family truckster lime green wagon - we're not stopping - ever!!".


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When it’s actual IMC conditions, that rest stop means a whole approach and departure in IMC. I do however prefer the rest stop over trying to flying an ILS when I really got to go.

Yeah, agree big time. I hate having to make a fuel or pit stop on a longish cross country that involves shooting an approach. Especially if it's not needed for fuel.

Regarding flights with the little lady, the suggestion to avoid drinking liquids for a couple of hours prior to departure is a good one. And bring along some juicy grapes for snacks.

For me a large empty protein powder jug (2 of them on a long flight) works great, and allows the option and ability to drink plenty of water. No way the wife is interested in peeing during the flight, so unfortunately the leg distances are significantly shorter with her along.

Flying long legs alone with the jugs, minus a fuel stop, helps justify losing 5 to 10 knots by running LOP and still arriving at the final destination sooner. No can do with the little lady along.
 
Yet another reason GA is not adequate for long distance traveling.

Sure... for those who don't mind the possibility of being held hostage stuck on the ramp with overflowing toilets waiting for a gate to become available. Or some other weather related, personnel, mechanical or ATC computer issue is offered up.
 
Sure... for those who don't mind the possibility of being held hostage stuck on the ramp with overflowing toilets waiting for a gate to become available. Or some other weather related, personnel, mechanical or ATC computer issue is offered up.
Doesn’t matter.

GA is limited by weather, range, facilities (or lack of) and pilot and aircraft capability.
 
Yet another reason GA is not adequate for long distance traveling.
I guess it all boils down to what you like to do in aviation.

On the six or so X-US flights and multiple other overnight XC (all SEL), I've been delayed a couple of hours here and there. And one time I did spend a couple of days in Elko, NV of all places. It was Oct. and there was an early cold front with snow and ice passing through the NW. But it turned out to be a fun little town to explore and here is a large Basque contingent there, GREAT food.
 
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Doesn’t matter.

GA is limited by weather, range, facilities (or lack of) and pilot and aircraft capability.

Both methods of CONUS flying have their strengths, weaknesses, and individually determined level of fun, disappointments, risks and delays.

In 6200+ hours of little plane travel I can count on less than two hands the amounts of unexpected maintenance delays, auto rentals, and unplanned nights in hotels. Recent airline travel horror stories from family and friends doesn't come close.
 
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