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Looking at the damage to the Airbus the Dash was no doubt on the runway at C4, probably awaiting a take off clearance. You can see damage to both Airbus engines likely from hitting the back side of the Dash wings. Fuel in the Dash wings was likely the initial explosion.
Saw a short video taken by a passenger of a dark, smoky plane filled with Japanese people calmly following instructions, waiting their turn, and not grabbing their luggage. Can't help but wonder if the outcome would've been different on a US carrier.
Well, if it was Spirit, they’d be getting out their credit cards to pay for using the slides, and for leaving their carry-ons on board. (And I’m passing this cute one-liner on to my buddy who’s a Spirit pilot.)
It may be time for you to step away from the mirror skyking3286 and speak for yourself.
"Taxi to the runway 34R C5 hold point" is standard phraseology in many parts of the world. The US deviates significantly from ICAO standard phraseology.
Slightly disagree. The Dash 8 was on the runway lined up and waiting for some time when the A350 hit it.
Mebbe. But with a runway all lit up for approaching aircraft, it would still likely be too difficult to discern until too late.
Airports need brake lights?
Saw the ATC transcripts, never CLR FOR T/O, Might be CVR knows what’s cooked.
This from that article : Investigators will also look closely at how an aircraft could be on an active HND runway for nearly 1 min. without being detected, even in the dark. An ICAO document shows HND is one of many airports that uses surface movement radar—a long-used method of supplementing the visual view of the airfield controllers have. The system’s performance and controllers’ familiarity with it are other likely topics investigators will probe.
Technically the airport had brake lights in the form of Stop Bar lights before entering the runway. You aren't allowed to enter the runway if the stop bar lights are flashing red.
Might want to rethink that.
Video of the cabin as the airplane slid to a stop was fascinating. Pax initially seemed surprisingly calm, some capturing the event on their phones, but their anxiety rapidly grew with a big orange fireball clearly visible through the windows and the cabin filling with smoke. Yet, they remained seated, awaiting instructions from the crew. I was puzzled by the length of time that transpired before the crew initiated the evac. One clip showed an F/A sitting in her jumpseat, looking quizzically at her colleage cross-aisle, as if asking "what now?" Today I read a report stating that the evac required a little over 18 minutes(!) That would seem like an enternity under the circumstances. The timing was stopped when the Captain, the last person on board, exited, so it may be that the Captain spent several minutes searching the cabin after everyone else evacuated, thus skewing the total evac time. Another report stated that the PA was inoperative, possibly delaying the initation of the evac. Another interesting aspect is that the right engine appears to be running well into the evac. If that is the case, one might wonder if the extensive damage caused by running-over a Dash 8 at, like, 100kts, rendered flight deck controls such as the PA and engine controls inoperative.
The reason the Captain spent so long before leaving is he kept finding people still in their seats.
What, they were trying to finish the movie?
