PA-32R-300 POH

USAF JD

USAF JD

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New to me bird coming home Monday!

Does anyone know of anyplace to download a POH for a PA32R-300? I'm going to pick her up Monday and I would like some model specific airplane porn for the weekend.:):goofy::)
 
I have PDF's of each chapter. They came from a site that I was just about to post the link to, but alas, looks like it has gone down recently.

Congrats on your purchase, and welcome to the Lance club!

PM Sent with some Christmas gifts!
 
Keep an eye on eBay auctions for various manuals, POH, autopilot, etc.
 
USAF JD said:
You guys rock. Any advice for the new Lance owner?
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I have owned two straight tails. T-tails may be a bit different than what I've put here:

1) When doing your transition training, definitely do a few trips around the pattern at max gross. She flies a bit differently at gross than at "standard training weight."

2) Related, do NOT rotate early when hot and heavy. You can easily get behind the power curve. Be very dedicated to flying by the numbers, particularly in these conditions. Approach/landing is pretty forgiving.

3) Try some takeoffs with a notch of flaps and some without. Personally, I like the feel better with a notch. Without, it seems to skate around a bit at near rotation speed.

4) Depending on how you plan to fly it, you might want to generate some weight and balance sheets with/without some of the seats just to have on hand. (Assuming you have the quick release ones.)

5) Never try to reverse the gear until it has cycled fully. The hydraulic power pack does not like that at all!
 
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Enjoy!!

And get some practice flying it with various loadings. It has a different personality at gross with the seats full than it does with only one up.

[edit: Ken beat me to it! And I agree with him about a notch of flap on takeoff. With a notch out it feels more like just a big Cherokee.]
 
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Pilawt said:
Enjoy!!

And get some practice flying it with various loadings. It has a different personality at gross with the seats full than it does with only one up.

[edit: Ken beat me to it! And I agree with him about a notch of flap on takeoff. With a notch out it feels more like just a big Cherokee.]
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It IS a big Cherokee :yes:

Never tried the 1 notch takeoff method. Got a few hours in the T tailed Lance.
Trim is your friend.
 
Ken Ibold said:
I have owned two straight tails. T-tails may be a bit different than what I've put here:

1) When doing your transition training, definitely do a few trips around the pattern at max gross. She flies a bit differently at gross than at "standard training weight."

2) Related, do NOT rotate early when hot and heavy. You can easily get behind the power curve. Be very dedicated to flying by the numbers, particularly in these conditions. Approach/landing is pretty forgiving.

3) Try some takeoffs with a notch of flaps and some without. Personally, I like the feel better with a notch. Without, it seems to skate around a bit at near rotation speed.

4) Depending on how you plan to fly it, you might want to generate some weight and balance sheets with/without some of the seats just to have on hand. (Assuming you have the quick release ones.)

5) Never try to reverse the gear until it has cycled fully. The hydraulic power pack does not like that at all!
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:yeahthat:
 
I am back on the map after a crazy week. I did a lot of flying with my CFI to get acquainted with my new bird. I am moving up from a Grumman so this is a polar opposite as far as flying machines go.

I did my primary in a PA-28 so the Piper feel came back pretty quick. The landing sight picture took a bit to get used to as well. It really is a big Cherokee as advertised. I don't know that I will EVER be able to be comfortable in a standard width GA plane again. I haven't had her at gross yet and plan on doing that along with some approaches next week with my CFI. It is an awesome bird. Oh, and she glides like a brick.:yes:
 

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USAF JD said:
I don't know that I will EVER be able to be comfortable in a standard width GA plane again.
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One of my favorite things about the PA-32 is that I'm not rubbing shoulders with whoever is next to me. You don't realize how big a deal that is until you try it.

Getting back into a PA-28 sure seems small by comparison.

Looks nice! Post some interior pics too, please.
 
Nice looking plane. Matt K. does a great job reworking them.
 
ahkahn said:
Congrats on your purchase, and welcome to the Lance club!

PM Sent with some Christmas gifts!
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...and where were my Christmas gifts?! ;)

+1 on parts hoarding...anytime I see something on eBay, Barnstormers, or the salvage yard that might be useful down the road, I buy it.
 
I flew the T tail Lance several times in the last year. The takeoff in this aircraft is not like your regular Cherokee. Be ready for a boot full of right rudder on the roll and for the climbout. I always left the rudder trim at half deflection and the result was a tired right leg.

I only ever flew with myself or one other person on board. The rotation in this aircraft is not an enjoyable experience. It does not want to lift off the ground even at rotation speed and requires a very hefty pull. In my experience, for takeoff this is a plane that you muscle around. Do not treat it like a nice light C172.
 
woxof said:
I flew the T tail Lance several times in the last year. The takeoff in this aircraft is not like your regular Cherokee. Be ready for a boot full of right rudder on the roll and for the climbout. I always left the rudder trim at half deflection and the result was a tired right leg.

I only ever flew with myself or one other person on board. The rotation in this aircraft is not an enjoyable experience. It does not want to lift off the ground even at rotation speed and requires a very hefty pull. In my experience, for takeoff this is a plane that you muscle around. Do not treat it like a nice light C172.
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I mentioned this on another thread, but a PA32 is like driving an F-250 compared to a Taurus (PA28).
 
Okay, I am really loving this airplane so far except for moving it in and out of the hangar.

What are you Lance Saratoga owners using to move your planes? I have a slight incline to get out and I just cant do it on my own. I am looking real close at Redline Aviation, the Sidewinder looks awesome but the price is painful. They have a Stiffy....yes, a Stiffy that looks like it would work. I may have to start a new Stiffy thread....
 
USAF JD said:
Okay, I am really loving this airplane so far except for moving it in and out of the hangar.

What are you Lance Saratoga owners using to move your planes? I have a slight incline to get out and I just cant do it on my own. I am looking real close at Redline Aviation, the Sidewinder looks awesome but the price is painful. They have a Stiffy....yes, a Stiffy that looks like it would work. I may have to start a new Stiffy thread....
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I'm sorry, are you asking for advice PRIOR to posting pics of ur new plane? I don't have the handbook in front of me, but I'm sure that's against PoA policy.
 
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