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Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by RyanB, Jun 1, 2020.
Eventually, most of us will be 2 degrees of separation..... we know somebody who knows somebody.
Nobody you know knows they have it, and nobody you know knows anybody who knows they know they have it.
I suppose it's also true that nobody you know knows they know anybody who knows they have it.
If you’re going to get technical, you should also be accurate.
Covid-19 is the disease that results from the virus. The name of the virus is SARS-CoV-2.
sure, but then Noah forgot to load them onto the ark.
Friend of mine's (he works in healthcare) wife, she has several comorbidities, got pneumonia and ended up in the hospital tested positive for Covid-19 she was prescribed hydroxichoroquine and zpac got better was home in 3 or 4 days. Had a resurgence of pneumonia went back to hospital and that time tested negative for Covid was in the hospital 5 or 6 days. She is home now doing well.
My friend and his daughter that is staying with them during the quarantine both have tested positive for antibodies. Both say they remember having a slight fever and not feeling great for a day or two back in March but no other symptoms.
I know two people who have lost a total of three family members to it. I don't know anyone personally who has been diagnosed.
Plus, it's a lot harder to do testing on prisoners and G.I.'s now.
Correct. Nobody that doesn't have it know nobody that has it. Nor do they know anyone that has if, and so on, and so on. And she told two friends and they told two friends.......
It really is. You could get it 5 minutes after being tested... Or you could have even gotten it just before testing but not have your test show up positive.
So, you kinda don't know if you have it until you test positive... Or, you can find out via the antibody test that you used to have it. But you really don't ever know whether or not you have it right now, unless you test positive. Kinda like cancer.
My cousin, a triathlete in the 60 and over category, was required to get a test for employment three weeks ago. Positive. Not even the sniffles before, during, or after. Freaky.
I've known three....all recovered. Two older than 50's and recovered....but they were rough non-hospitalized recoveries. The other was a 21 yo nurse and it was a 4-5 day flu deal...not too bad for her.
Here in the UK I lost a friend to Covid-19 He was a porter in a hospital, healthy 47 yr old got it 4 weeks ago finished up in ICU at the hospital he worked at. Came through what looked like the worst and left ICU for a general ward early last week, was awake and joking about being cared for by his work collegues, Thursday night he said goodnight to his wife and kids on Skype, early hours of Friday morning his wife got a phone call to say he had taken a turn for the worse and they couldn't revive him !
Sorry about your friend. 47 is way too young.
Up until last week, I would have said no. Now I know two. My sister is an RN in north central Florida, and she came down with it last week. The second one is my neighbor. We will be going to his funeral mass on Wednesday. He was 60.
I got it, tested positive for the antibody 2 weeks ago.
I know quite a few more now...
And my wife is a teacher, so I'm afraid I'm going to know many more shortly after school starts, probably including myself.
My wife teaches as well. She had been really worried about going back. I told her it was Ok not to go back and she decided that she is finished.
I think that story is going to be very common. As if our teachers didn't have enough **** to deal with.
Yes, I feel you are right.
My wife's decision was more about the attitude of kids and parent(s) around here. The Chinese virus was the final straw.
(plus we plan to move to the big city in Wyoming hopefully before the snow flies..)
The nurses are laughing at y’all.
Today was Day 96 in the hospital for a friend’s husband, most of that in intensive care on a vent. Trying to get him stable enough now to go to a rehab center. Late 50’s, Muni bus driver in Northwest Indiana.
Know three others that have/had it. One Early 50’s, dId ok after about two weeks, but now, weeks Later, Neuro issues are starting to show up.
This thing is a real bitch if it gets you hard.
My dad had it. I drove him to the ER the day he tested positive and was a close contact and had to self isolate myself also. Missed a month of work due to the quarantine/assisting with his in home care. His case wasn’t severe enough for a hospitalization but he was nowhere near well enough to be left on his own. Thankfully he recovered and never passed it on to me. It was an extremely difficult thing to go through but it teaches you how short life really is and really put things in perspective.
Us essential daycare workers are laughing, too.
Infuenza is also a real ***** if it gets you hard.
A tenant of ours at a condo that we own had it.
He's early 30s, said it was a medium-bad to bad flu-like experience.
A property owner that I know of another condo said he got it early. Same experience.
News is coming out that cholesterol drugs could be helpful into making this more into a cold-like disease:
One of the older couples that died the same day (but apart, even though in the same hospital) were distant cousins of mine. I had never met them, I think they were about 15 years older than me (and I'm old.)
Interesting. Seems like cases are still rising in the US but fatality rate seems to have stabilized for now. Hopefully that's because we're getting better at treating it.
I have had a couple of employees test + for it, also my BIL tested + for the antibodies.
More likely that more of the people getting it are younger and in the .00001% mortality rate group.
Because I had to take a plane flight for work and I help care for an elderly FIL, I had a test last week. Yay. Not It.
I live in the hot spot of Florida, where there is supposedly chaos and panic. I don't know anyone around here that has it or knows anyone that has it, except that my nephew, who is a doctor at the county hospital is aware of some cases. People generally wear masks, and nobody shakes hands any more, but few people act scared. When I go get take-out restaurant food, they tables and counters are as full as they are allowed to be.
I do know people in other States (Ga, Arkansas) that know people that have it, but nobody I know personally has it (that I am aware of).
Just heard from a friend that got sick about a week and a half ago, tested positive for COVID-19 and is now starting to recover. Symptoms included high fever, phlegm in the chest, fatigue and loss of smell. Although it wasn't bad enough to require hospitalization, it was bad enough that "I would not wish it upon my worst enemy." Apparently the vector was some sort of social gathering in an enclosed area.
I don't know anyone directly, but know someone who knows someone who had dinner with someone who tested positive a few days.. the whole group went into panic and got tested. After waiting about 10 days (you go to the bottom of the queue if you are not symptomatic) the people who thought they may have been exposed all tested negative
what I've been hearing as well.. but if it's more than 2 degrees of separation I don't really consider myself as "knowing someone with COVID"
Or we're diagnosing more cases, which makes the death rate go down.
Our Environmental, Health, and Safety group has been slammed with it. Dear boneheads, do a better job.
Anyway, they broke up the group and redistributed the non-infected people to other offices around the complex. I offered one of our unused offices to one of the refugees and the person they placed in "my" office turned up sick/positive 2 days later. Rrrr.
So I've got that going for me.
My neighbours weren’t believers. Needless to say they got it. Well, the father, 38, and son, 8, got it. Both appear to be healthy in general. They had it for 2 weeks and did not hospitalize. They explained it as a flu but the father also had trouble breathing.
They also continued to employ their housekeeper. She got covid-19 5 days after working in their home. She could have caught it from anywhere but it is a scary thought.
I personally know two pilots at my airline, one is 55, one is in his lower 30s.
Be careful out there! To reiterate, I know 5 people who got it, ages ranging from 8-55 years old. I also know of other people at my airline, but not personally. Everyone appears to my untrained eye to have been in good health to begin with, but I am not going to be part of a HIPPA lawsuit
I can tell you that the two pilots hold 1st class medicals if that tells you anything about their general health.
Or the average age of those contracting it is moving down into a more survivable population.
Then there's this. Think of it what you may:
I think that it is no secret that false positives exist in covid-19 testing just as false positives exist in pretty much every other kind of diagnostic health testing. The fact that in this case it was a person who (I assume) carries some sort of celebrity status among pro golfers means absolutely nothing in terms of how likely one is to receive a false positive result. We all know that lightening strikes and when it does, its gotta strike somewhere. Odds are still incredibly low that it will strike you.
Shifting gears a bit and possibly pushing this topic closer to needing to be locked, it occurs to me that this topic is really quite pointless. The sense I get is that this topic was created out of a belief that this pandemic was being largely overblown by the media and that it really isn't nearly as serious as people make it out to be and therefore any and all precautions are an unnecessary overreaction to a problem that doesn't actually exist.
At least that is my suspicion for the motives behind the thread. And if I'm correct about that, then this thread is pointless. Because this like it or not, this topic has become political and like any political topic, any information which agrees with our preconceived notions is regarded as further proof and any information which disagrees with our preconceived notions is regarded as insignificant outlier data or just plain lies.
If you don't believe me, reference comments earlier in the thread pointing out that the topic asked about 'those you know' and posters were reporting on 'those who know people I know...' Put another way, the number minds likely to be swayed either way by this topic is zero.
False positives on a PCR text is extremely rare. It’s more likely he had it and they caught it at the trail end. (Or someone screwed up ID).
False negatives on a PCR though Is very common - up to 25%.
False positives on a Ig (anti-body) however is common-ish (1 to 2%).