Keyless entry (home)

The better touch screen units will randomize the key order every time access is attempted. Makes it harder to watch and memorize the combination, but don't think you'll find that on home grade locksets.
 
Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't even lock anything when I'm home... or even if I'm out for a few hours. If anyone wants in bad enough they can break any one of a number of windows I'm sure. Simple residential locks are going to be more than enough, I'm more concerned about being locked out than trying to stop ninjas and secret agents from stealing my pizza dough recipe.
 
If you have a garage door they are also uber simple to open... but a little bit conspicuous.
 
cowman said:
Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't even lock anything when I'm home... or even if I'm out for a few hours. If anyone wants in bad enough they can break any one of a number of windows I'm sure. Simple residential locks are going to be more than enough, I'm more concerned about being locked out than trying to stop ninjas and secret agents from stealing my pizza dough recipe.
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To each their own, I guess. We lock the house and cars to keep the casual / lazy thieves and numbskulls, of which there are many, out of our stuff. We live in a nice, quiet neighborhood, but the scumbags have figured out they can steal better stuff here than in their neighborhoods. We see way too many doorbell videos of people walking through the neighborhood at night trying car doors.

Our neighbors across the street left their garage door up one night, and the keys were in their cars. One could argue that a thief could defeat the garage door opener and steal a car anyway. But when you make things that easy for them... in the morning they found the door open and a car gone, along with a purse that had been inside the house.

"I don't have to be able to outrun the bear, I only need to be able to outrun the other guy."
 
DaleB said:
To each their own, I guess. We lock the house and cars to keep the casual / lazy thieves and numbskulls, of which there are many, out of our stuff. We live in a nice, quiet neighborhood, but the scumbags have figured out they can steal better stuff here than in their neighborhoods. We see way too many doorbell videos of people walking through the neighborhood at night trying car doors.

Our neighbors across the street left their garage door up one night, and the keys were in their cars. One could argue that a thief could defeat the garage door opener and steal a car anyway. But when you make things that easy for them... in the morning they found the door open and a car gone, along with a purse that had been inside the house.

"I don't have to be able to outrun the bear, I only need to be able to outrun the other guy."
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That makes sense, but I don't even live in a neighborhood. My house is approximately where the red circle is. Big building is my shop/barn, clearing is the horse pasture. I could walk down to the road and sit in the middle of it likely for hours without there being a car. People walking by isn't a thing that happens... you'd have to drive up a long driveway to even get up to the house. If anyone comes up here they're specifically targeting me and I figure at that point seeing as how there's nobody around they'll just break a window to get in.

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DaleB said:
We lock the house and cars to keep the casual / lazy thieves and numbskulls, of which there are many, out of our stuff.
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It helps if you have a sign on the exterior side of the door that reads; This Door Locked For Your Protection! :biggrin:
 
TCABM said:
We used these cypher locks on our vault doors for a long time before we switched over to proximity badges and managed access.

The problem with these locks are the buttons collect oil from finger tips, which collects dust, which over time identifies what buttons are used in the unlock sequence. That just leaves the handful of combinations to run through before it’s defeated.

An alcohol wipe across the buttons does much to erase that evidence.
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There is a new lock set that randomly changes the position of the numbers on the keypad to prevent the "button identification" problem.
Unfortunately I read the article way back yesterday morning and can't remember the company that makes the lock, and a search turned up nothing.
 
cowman said:
Like I said earlier in the thread, I don't even lock anything when I'm home... or even if I'm out for a few hours. If anyone wants in bad enough they can break any one of a number of windows I'm sure. Simple residential locks are going to be more than enough, I'm more concerned about being locked out than trying to stop ninjas and secret agents from stealing my pizza dough recipe.
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The sign of a break in is pretty important for what comes next
 
Bill said:
Touchscreen can be a nightmare in the rain. My bike GPS/computer is touchscreen, and you have to lock the screen when it begins to rain. If you forget, it interprets each rain drop as a button push, goes nuts, and suddenly you’re being routed to some obscure city in China.
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We used to have a lock with a touchscreen. It was almost impossible to read in direct sunlight.
 
Shepherd said:
There is a new lock set that randomly changes the position of the numbers on the keypad to prevent the "button identification" problem.
Unfortunately I read the article way back yesterday morning and can't remember the company that makes the lock, and a search turned up nothing.
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Are you thinking of Lockly?
 
I've got Yale locks on a few properties and we've had good luck with them.
Except I've never had good luck with the wifi functionality. That part isn't something that we really wanted anyay so I've turned that off to help with battery life... so for the more recent purchases, I've just bought the models without wifi
One place we bought had a Kwikset lock and it was ok, but since it was a different ecosystem I never liked it as much. Just not used to it. It ended up failing and so I replaced it with another Yale. I've also used Schlage ones in the past too.... I don't remember for sure but I think the kwikset and the Schlage locks were both victims of leaking Duracell or dollar store batteries

whichever one you use, I suggest not using Duraleak batteries. I prefer Energizer lithium cells, even though I think the literature might say to use alkaline and not lithium...
 
I have Yale locks on my house mostly because Yale is the only one who makes smart locks that fit some of the doors I have.

On my rental, I have the Kwikset locks mentioned earlier. They work well and they use the quickset rekeying system which is pretty handy. I have keyed all the schlage cores in my home locks to be the same and it's not too hard or involved, but the Kwikset things I don't even have to unmount from the door. Takes about 10 seconds.
 
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