Interested in how many have trouble falling asleep in hotels?

Discussion in 'Hangar Talk' started by REMmedy, Sep 1, 2019.

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Do you have trouble falling asleep in hotels?

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  2. Sometimes

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  1. REMmedy

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    Hello. We are a start-up, building a system for Situational Insomnia (such as Hotel Insomnia) management. We have data on the extent of the problem in Business Travelers, Athletes and Shift workers. A recent conversation with a commercial flight safety director brought up the existence of this problem in commercial airline pilots. I am wondering how extensive is this phenomenon? We are interested particularly in pilots who sleep well at home but have trouble falling asleep in hotel rooms. Any insights would be appreciated.
     
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    There are medications for that. 80 proof works fairly well.
     
  3. REMmedy

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    Not an uncommon strategy. Does not increase quality sleep time.
     
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    This is why free wi-fi is so important. A few off the wrist is a great cure for temporary insomnia during business travels.
     
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    My wife loves our mattress at home. I hate it. I sleep much better at the Marriott.
     
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    If you only want pilots that fly for a living disregard the rest:

    For me it’s only the bed. Some hotel beds suck and some are awesome. Been to a fair number of places in this world and the irony...the most comfortable I’ve found yet is at a $75/night hotel in Cozumel. The worst was one at a hotel in Tucson...had what appeared to be actual Sleep Number beds but with limited control. Pretty much ensured I will never own a sleep number bed.

    After that is the typical time zone changes. Like waking up in Singapore a million hours outta whack...but that’s not the rooms fault.

    Curious how your product will help?
     
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    I’m a private pilot, not a professional, but I travel for business quite a bit. I can usually fall asleep easily in a hotel, but I’m easily awakened by noises I’m unaccustomed to. The AC cycling, the room refrigerator, the elevator down the hall, other guests opening and closing doors, the snoring from the strange woman next to me, the pounding on the door from her husband,...
     
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    Marriott sells their mattresses (you can buy a new one). We’re planning on buying one soon for the same reason.
     
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    Yup. My mattress at home is awful (beyond time for replacement) so when I travel, any bed is an improvement for the most part. The odd sounds can be a pain, but I typically stay with Homewood Suites by Hilton so the bedroom is separated and has a ceiling fan as well to provide some white noise.
     
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    We’re mostly going based on wherever Laurie stays and her opinions thereof. We stayed in a full service Marriott last weekend for our anniversary and I liked that bed well too. I figured we’ll see what she thinks after a rotation or two and buy based on that.
     
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    After a day of flying, don’t seem to have any trouble sleeping in hotels.
     
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    Westin is also part of Bonvoy, the stupid new name of Marriott Rewards. Give them a try on the next occasion. Birthday perhaps.
     
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    I’m not an airline guy, but I have stayed at many hotels over the years. Can’t say I’ve ever had a noticeable problem.
     
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    The Marriott does have exceptional comfort, I will say. My last stay at the Crowne Plaza in Redondo Beach also had some pretty comfortable beds. I think it’s time I upgrade my mattress at home. LOL
     
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    My requirements for hotels are simple: Dark, Quiet and Cold. The number of places that fail that is pretty high. Stupid climate control that stops cooling when you stop moving, stupid 'pretty' wood blinds that block no light, stupid thin walls. I tend towards chains because most of them are at least reasonably good at meeting my requirements. The 'boutique' hotels often fail dismally.
     
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    I'm glad to hear that I'm not the only one that thinks BONVOY is a stupid name. I'm just glad that if I type in "Marriott.com" it takes me to the right place.
     
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    I rarely have any more trouble sleeping in a hotel than any other place...home, in traffic, under the overpass. Worst sleep I got in a hotel was years ago in a hotel in DTLA. About 3am there was a drunk woman pounding on my door screaming at the top of her lungs. I had to wake up and let her out.

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    I have trouble paying for hotels. I sleep just fine.
     
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    Same..

    If a hotel's curtains don't block all the light, I will duct tape the blanket over the window, and that is where housekeeping will find it.
     
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    I used to travel 50+ hotel nights per year for work. My secret was foam earplugs. Worked like a charm. There was a period of getting used to them but after that it was quite time.
     
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    Often. Not eating to close to bed time, regular exercise and melatonin supplements help me.
     
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    All I have to do to sleep is close my eyes and count to about 5, doesn’t matter where I am.

    When flying commercial I will usually doze off by the time the pilot puts in the full throttle and the wheel gets off the ground and wake up with the landing “thud”. I try not to do that when I am PIC
     
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    I usually sleep better than at home, mostly because I work longer days when on the road.
     
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    I usually sleep better in them, don't know why. Probably the same reason I can't sleep some nights at home so I move to the couch and I'm out right away... something about a change of location.
     
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    I sleep with no less then 7 pillows. It practically a fort. Varying degrees of firmness, no feathers, all with a special place. I’m not sure how it got that way but, that is the way it is. On vacation I bring them and verbally sleep ok.
    We just stayed at a Hampton inn in mass that the bed was terrible. Bad combo of soft and hard, my shoulder were killing me.
     
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    Noise and bad pillows. I can handle a bad bed (though most places I stay are pretty good), but hotels that put 4 boulders in the bed thinking people can sleep with them drives me nuts. I used to travel with a small pillow but it takes up too much space.

    My routine is to turn the air way down, put the A/C fan to ON, turn on the bathroom fan if there is one, and put foamies in my ears. I also make sure the curtains are completely pulled and try to not be close to the elevator or ice machine. I detest thin walled hotels and will avoid them if possible.
     
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    Bed
    Pillow
    Odors
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    Light

    Bed - I cannot sleep unless it is as hard as a marble slab. That's just me.
    Pillow - I need a thin pillow. Someone has it in their mind that a big balloon is what we need. Ever see what that does to your spine alignment?
    Odor - Febreeze makes me want to eject my throat out of my mouth and my head to pound. Knock off the cleaning fragrances
    Noise - don't put me near an elevator, a family, a group of 21yo's pls.
    Light - why design curtains to 'just barely' cover the window (where a 5-billion watt mercury vapor parking lot light is ablaze)? Only 6" more would allow the curtains to cover the window with ease.
     
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    Me too. The first thing I do is find the most comfortable one and then toss the remaining three on the floor.
     
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    Ability to create white noise and cool the room down to the mid 60s really helps me. Beyond that, I prefer a firm bed with firm pillows.
     
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    If I'm armed, I usually sleep pretty well. Carry a door alarm; also, turn on the light in the bathroom, then close the door most of the way, so it appears you are in the potty - gives you a few extra seconds. If staying more than one night, change rooms. If really paranoid, a door wedge is nice - use the rubber ones, as they get through security OK, though sometimes you need a shim - bottom panel of a drawer usually works.

    Don't drink in the hotel bar, and don't order food delivered, either. . . just sayin'. . . .
     
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    Regarding pillows, my experience with Hilton/Marriott brands is that they typically have 4 pillows on the bed, two are soft, two are firm. The beds at the Hampton Inns are definitely not as good as the Hilton/Doubletree/Homewood Suites. The couple of Westin hotels I’ve stayed at actually had a bed in the lobby advertising the brand for sale. I think they called it the “Heavenly” bed.
     
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    Never had any issues. The room needs to be very dark though and I’ll usually put a pillow over the clock because the glow of the numbers is too bright.
     
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    It's not the bed that makes it difficult for me to get a decent night's sleep in most hotels. It's the abysmally poor heat/AC unit that makes the room uncomfortable as hell, and noisy as hell. Nothing like just driftng off to sleep, only to have the AC or heat kick on like a locomotive. You set the temperature -- IF they even bothered to put in a thermostat -- and sure, it will hold that temp, plus or minus five or ten degrees.
     
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    I can sleep anywhere. I usually am asleep in 2-5 minutes. Using a CPAP almost insures a perfect nights sleep for me...
     
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    Noisy AC and crappy pillows will keep me from sleeping. Most pillows are way too soft and thin.

    Jesus, where are you staying, Kabul?
     
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    I assume you travel to Chicago a lot?
     
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