https://www.usairnet.com radically changes format

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Anyone else notice USAirNet revamped (made worse?) its graphic format?

Here's my default view. Looks like a cartoon. Not sure if I like it better. I do like the addition of current conditions for nearby airports. I do like the % addition to "Sky Conditions--Cloud Cover." I suppose I'll get used to it as I have no choice.

Everett, Washington Aviation Weather Report and Forecast

The Everett, Washington Aviation Weather Report Forecast, Wind Speed, Wind Direction and Temperatures
www.usairnet.com
 
I use it a lot for aerial photography and the new format is NOT an improvement. Sigh...
 
Top of screen, legacy mode selectable. States only good through July 2027 though.
 
FORANE said:
Top of screen, legacy mode selectable. States only good through July 2027 though.
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I use this site all the time. Thanks for pointing out the legacy option!


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This is one of my main tools. I'm honestly having a hard time making out the differences. It seems to be better than before on phone screen.
 
dmspilot said:
Assuming the main draw is the 72-hr forecast, maybe you'll like mine better

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Interesting, I hadn't seen it before. I like it but find it harder to interpret at a glance. Perhaps that is in part due to lack of familiarity? I find the graphics in USAirNet help me instinctively visualize precip, cloud altitude, wind speed, etc.
 
FORANE said:
Interesting, I hadn't seen it before. I like it but find it harder to interpret at a glance. Perhaps that is in part due to lack of familiarity? I find the graphics in USAirNet help me instinctively visualize precip, cloud altitude, wind speed, etc.
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I haven't posted it before. Yes, I think familiarity is a big part of it. I tried to use colors, fonts, and other visual cues to help, rather than the graph-like visualizations on usairnet.
 
dmspilot said:
I haven't posted it before. Yes, I think familiarity is a big part of it. I tried to use colors, fonts, and other visual cues to help, rather than the graph-like visualizations on usairnet.
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Does your data come from the same place as usairnet? Their forecast accuracy isn't as accurate as I would like.
 
Lindberg said:
This is one of my main tools. I'm honestly having a hard time making out the differences. It seems to be better than before on phone screen.
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I'm also not seeing any significant change. Obviously they added the conditions at nearby airports, which seems nice, but the forecast graph seems exactly the same as before, except they updated the appearance of the icons and symbols.

I don't see anything that will take "getting used to".
 
RussR said:
I'm also not seeing any significant change.
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On a phone screen in portrait mode the leftmost column is now stationary. As you scroll sideways through the forecast you get to see less of it at any time.
 
AV8R_87 said:
On a phone screen in portrait mode the leftmost column is now stationary. As you scroll sideways through the forecast you get to see less of it at any time.
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The top row of stationary as well. Those are big improvements.
 
After playing with it some more, I'm liking it more. There are more rows available than in the legacy view. It's fairly customizable, though we will see if they hold through app and browser restarts. I ditched a lot of the "wave" presentations and deleted numerous rows. I'll get used to it.
 
On my phone it will not pinch zoom. That makes it pretty much unusable without significant aggrivation. Will stick with legacy mode for now.
 
FORANE said:
Does your data come from the same place as usairnet? Their forecast accuracy isn't as accurate as I would like.
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Yes.
Any particular elements you feel aren't accurate? When I checked awhile back (last year?) their precipitation forecast was 6 hours out of phase. Looks like they fixed it though.
 
dmspilot said:
Yes.
Any particular elements you feel aren't accurate? When I checked awhile back (last year?) their precipitation forecast was 6 hours out of phase. Looks like they fixed it though.
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I've watched that site for years. For years I've had 3 of 7 permanent tabs on my firefox browser set to 3 different locations on the usairnet website. After routinely looking forward a few days to optimize timing of my weekly flights, I've noticed cloud base and % cloud cover lacks the degree of accuracy that I would like. The forecast changes as time nears, but even forecast less than 24 hours seems to be less reliable than the TAF on Aviationweather.com. Being a forecast, I can't expect perfect accuracy, but don't know why the TAF on Aviationweather.com seems more accurate.
 
FORANE said:
I've watched that site for years. For years I've had 3 of 7 permanent tabs on my firefox browser set to 3 different locations on the usairnet website. After routinely looking forward a few days to optimize timing of my weekly flights, I've noticed cloud base and % cloud cover lacks the degree of accuracy that I would like. The forecast changes as time nears, but even forecast less than 24 hours seems to be less reliable than the TAF on Aviationweather.com. Being a forecast, I can't expect perfect accuracy, but don't know why the TAF on Aviationweather.com seems more accurate.
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TAFs are made by humans....
 
FORANE said:
I've watched that site for years. For years I've had 3 of 7 permanent tabs on my firefox browser set to 3 different locations on the usairnet website. After routinely looking forward a few days to optimize timing of my weekly flights, I've noticed cloud base and % cloud cover lacks the degree of accuracy that I would like. The forecast changes as time nears, but even forecast less than 24 hours seems to be less reliable than the TAF on Aviationweather.com. Being a forecast, I can't expect perfect accuracy, but don't know why the TAF on Aviationweather.com seems more accurate.
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Lindberg said:
TAFs are made by humans....
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Correct...since the NBM 72-hour forecast is automated, being less accurate than a TAF is probably a given. However, the advantage is that NBMs are available for many more locations than TAFs. They also include a lot of additional data (temperature, dewpoint, etc).
 
FORANE said:
Does usairnet not get their forecast from the TAF?
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No, it comes from here:

As you might see, the website and text format of the forecast itself are not very user-friendly, thus the popularity of 3rd party site(s).

RussR said:
I'm pretty sure they get it from the MOS.
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MOS is planned to be phased out as seen in the yellow box at the top of this page:

USairnet switched to NBM a few years ago.
 
I must say @dmspilot I really like it when actual pilots make digital tools for pilots. My flying the last couple of years has trended away from needing something like Weatherpliance, but I have bookmarked it for the flying I hope to do in the next couple of years.
 
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