Got my New Ride

Discussion in 'Flight Following' started by Radar Contact, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. gsengle

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    I mean, hell, you can buy some nice twins for the price of the upcoming double overhaul...


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  2. gsengle

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    Although when Lyc announced price cuts I did my small part...

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  3. charheep

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    I hear great things about JA. I used them from time to time for rentals. Decent place and nice FBO

    Great plane. Guess the "you should just get a Bonanza" wont work on you.

    Congrats!
     
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  4. DutchRoller

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    Nice plane. 310 is one of my favorite twins.
     
  5. mapasha

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    Congrats! Welcome to the 310 club. They are great airplanes.
     
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  6. dell30rb

    dell30rb Final Approach

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    Oh, duh
     
  7. TheTraveler

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    Beautiful plane, congratulations!
     
  8. Checkout_my_Six

    Checkout_my_Six Final Approach

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  9. OkieFlyer

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    Congrats! You suck! ;)


    Not really. I'm just freakin' green with envy because 310s reek of badassery.
     
  10. GRG55

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    Less, once you factor in the accessory overhauls and labour to remove/install. And in the meantime you can buy a lot of fuel for the capital investment uptick to buy a comparable high performance single of similar vintage, TT and avionics.
     
  11. denverpilot

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    Nice looking 310. Fun
     
  12. jsstevens

    jsstevens En-Route

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    First, beautiful airplane! 310 is on my bucket list.

    Second, that airplane has a "ACTUATE SURF" switch! Whatever you paid for it, it's worth it! :D
     
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  13. Kritchlow

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    I'm not sure about his exact airplane, but that doesn't necessarily make it FIKI.
     
  14. AU_James

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    DAYUM. Very nice- congrats!!

    Maybe I'll get there one day......
     
  15. SkyDog58

    SkyDog58 Touchdown! Greaser!

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    Charlie don't surf!
     
  16. James_Dean

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    It isn't FIKI based upon not having inner boots, vertical surface tail not deiced, and no hot plate. Still looks like a great example though. Welcome to the club!
     
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  17. Kritchlow

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    Agreed!!
     
  18. Radar Contact

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    I purposely looked for full de-ice (wings, tail, props, windshield) without FIKI. I'm not looking to float around in known ice. I wanted a fairly well equipped escape method without having the crazy expense of replacing the hot plate if needed.
     
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  19. PaulS

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    Nice!
     
  20. James_Dean

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    Are you familiar with AD-2014-03-03? In the real world it probably doesn't matter too much, but it does present a few issues to be aware of. Has the placard been installed per the AD?
     
  21. Radar Contact

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    I did come across it and read it on TTCF. I will have to ask my A&P about the placard. Long story short, it says to add 15 kts after encountering icing. Is that what you get from it? Thank you for bringing it back to my attention.
     
  22. James_Dean

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    Happy to have @Ted DuPuis chime in here to correct me if I'm wrong -

    To me it is more of a mindset thing. Something that was pretty grey is now black and white. I don't believe there was anything in the limitations section of your POH(somebody correct me if I'm wrong on that) about flying your bird in icing conditions before this AD. There is now. You want to blast through a 2,000 ft layer to get to sunshine above in the winter in Illinois? It was done without a second thought before, but now is pretty tough to do legally. Is there anything that changed from a safety perspective? Heck no. This nuance was what led me to look for a FIKI bird when I bought mine. I think it is just something to be aware of.


    I think the items required for FIKI were inner and outer wing boots, vertical and horizontal tail boots, 100 amp alternators, ice light, heated/non-icing fuel vents, heated props, electric windshield heat plate, headed stall vane, heated pitot, and heated static vent.
     
  23. Shepherd

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    Sweet!
    I hope it's everything you dreamed it would be, and more.
     
  24. James331

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  25. Ted DuPuis

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    I would recommend that he attempt to leave the wings attached. They don't fly none too good when the wings come from together. ;)

    There are a few aspects. It's also not FIKI because it's not in the appropriate model and serial number range. The only 310s that are eligible for FIKI are 310Rs (and even then I think there's a subset of them, but I don't recall the specifics - Tony wrote about it in an article not long ago).

    From a practical perspective (ignoring the potential legalities surrounding the AD), you need someone who's got some ice experience to help you understand what your plane really is capable of. 310s do alright in icing, but not great by any stretch of the imagination. The best plane I ever flew in icing was the Aztec, it just didn't care. I can give you some more thoughts from my 1,000 hours in the 310 if you'd like.

    Most importantly, congrats! It's a beautiful airplane and I'm sure you'll love it. I'll fully admit to missing the 310 I used to fly.
     
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  26. Radar Contact

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    Thanks again. What you said makes perfect sense. Other than the hot plate, inner boots and vertical boots, I have all the rest of that equipment installed. If I was using it as a work horse I would want FIKI. It is just a travel/family fun machine so I won't be too aggressive with clouds in the winter.
     
  27. AdamZ

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    Kevin, thanks for the apologies now please accept mine for drooling all over you 310! Sexiest twin out there. Congrats. fly her well and be safe!
     
  28. James_Dean

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    Other things I learned along the way-

    1. You can fit six sets of clubs in the nose if needed as long as they're not "pro" bags. Ensure all the golf balls are properly secured.
    2. On the ground rule #1 is: only brake straight ahead. Never in a turn.
    3. Personally ensure that your A&P is rigging the gear per the manual. Ask to see the proper tools and ensure the log entry says that the rig was "done IOC with..."
    4. Do an inflight shutdown of each engine and ensure that your props feather fully. I see the placard that indicates yours has unfeathering accumulators.
    5. When flying in the cold, periodically check that your fuel selectors are free and turning. This caused my one and only 'real deal' engine out experience.
    6. I'm assuming you have the fuel system figured out? I will admit to pumping fuel overboard once.
    7. Take Ted's class on baffles and temp management. It's worth the effort.
    8. Take the time to really learn the electrical system and the different busses. I found it confusing until I understood it a little better. Not something you want to be figuring out in the dark.
    9. Mine was perfectly happy going high and didn't lose much TAS. It might be worth the time to get oxy and go up there once to see how you and it perform. I routinely went to 15k and above to take advantage of winds and/or weather. Also helps put the kids to sleep. :) Down low you will be flirting with or in the yellow arc at normal cruise settings.
    10. The heater can be a bit of a PITA. Don't wait for it to break on you.
    11. I was a bit of a stickler for mags, plugs, and injectors. Once I had it dialed in the dispatch was very good and she ran deep LOP no problems. It is some effort, but worth it in my opinion.
    12. I would do every other or every third annual at TAS with Tony Saxton. It won't be cheap, but you'll have peace of mind and it will add to the value at resale.

    This advice is worth what you paid for it and YMMV, but I'm sure you will have fun. It is definitely more work than a fixed gear single, but it can be very rewarding. I flew mine for about 400 hours and it got me into the Conquest, and now Ted has me looking at Citations. Keepin' it in the family. :)
     
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  29. Ted DuPuis

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    Glad to be of assistance. ;)
     
  30. FlyGirlKHWO

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    A gorgeous twin and a great choice. Congrats!!
     
  31. Twin_Flyer

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    :rofl:, you know I didn't mean it literally...:nono:
     
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  32. James_Dean

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    This thread is making me regret trying to sell the ChickenHawk. This photo is after landing when she brought me safely to a runway after losing one above the cloud deck. I killed a tire trying to get her stopped on that icy runway, but we got the job done. :rockon:

    No matter where I go in aviation, this girl will always be my first love.

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  33. Ted DuPuis

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    Laurie and I often reminisce about the Aztec and wish we still had it. Many fond memories and narrowly cheating death a dozen or more times in the 1,000 hours I had in that plane.
     
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