Look it here I just added one to my own count.
You guys/gals (what is the ratio of guy members to female members - I await the next poll) for all your inputs. I figured it'd be a simple "forward slip is x and a side slip is y" But I'm all for boosting posting counts!
Ha, do a New Posts query and look at all the non-aviation related topics. I would rather discuss slips all day than try to figure out what my TV viewing habits say about my political opinions.
Maybe that's just me.
All of this talk about forward slips made me want to do some again so I just did one at Dutchess Co. Airport (KPOU) after a short one hour flight from Long Island. Boy I forgot how much fun it is to do. It's been awhile
It was a beautiful flight! I fly out of Republic so I went south of JFK out to the Hudson River Class B exclusion, then just followed the river up to KPOU. This was my first time landing there. Nice airport. On the way home I flew over Stewart via D transition then back out to the river, keeping well clear of West Point!
As for the forward slip, I was pleased at how well I remembered how to execute it. I think I did pretty good for someone that haven't done one in ten years! Can't wait to review my video footage.
What if you're both fixing a mild crosswind AND losing altitude at the same time... what do you call that slip?
I only ask to point out for the OP that the reality is, the two definitions aren't super important. Aircraft control is.
A slip is a slip.
FAA wants you to know if you've pointed the aircraft off centerline in essentially a no wind condition, and you're looking out your side window at the runway in a slip, that's a "side slip".
If you're pointed at the runway and have a big slip in to correct for a crosswind so the runway stays in the front window, that's a "forward" slip.
When the runway is hidden by the door pillar halfway inbetween and you're looking to both correct for wind and add more drag to lose altitude...
They don't have a name for that.
Call it whichever one you like. The airplane doesn't know the difference.
What if you're both fixing a mild crosswind AND losing altitude at the same time... what do you call that slip?
I only ask to point out for the OP that the reality is, the two definitions aren't super important. Aircraft control is.
A slip is a slip.
FAA wants you to know if you've pointed the aircraft off centerline in essentially a no wind condition, and you're looking out your side window at the runway in a slip, that's a "side slip".
If you're pointed at the runway and have a big slip in to correct for a crosswind so the runway stays in the front window, that's a "forward" slip.
When the runway is hidden by the door pillar halfway inbetween and you're looking to both correct for wind and add more drag to lose altitude...
They don't have a name for that.
Call it whichever one you like. The airplane doesn't know the difference.
Incidentally, when the great Wolfgang Langeweische wrote "Stick and Rudder" in 1944, "side slip" meant the altitude-losing type of slip. This actually makes a lot more sense to me than saying the opposite. Non-pilots who see me slipping (to lose altitude) in to land for the first time always comment about how nervous I made them coming in "sideways". Everything about the modern definition of "side slip" is actually forward...the airplane's trajectory forward down the runway, as well as the alignment of the nose forward down the runway. The modern terms make no sense and matter even less. And here I am again contributing to this pointless discussion.
The elevator doesn't necessary elevate the airplane even when you're trying to...think stall. Pull back a little and you go up, pull back more and you go down. Plus, the elevator can just as easily make the airplane descend - ie. forward elevator. And guess what - push forward a little and you go down, push down more and you still go down.
I flew with a guy who said that his instructor said, "Bad things will happen if you slip the airplane"....If it's so "bad", then why is it on the list of required pre-solo training?
I flew with a guy who said that his instructor said, "Bad things will happen if you slip the airplane"....If it's so "bad", then why is it on the list of required pre-solo training?
Sheesh. Good lord, posted before coffee again.
The slip just seems like a more skilled maneuver. But, at 8 hours - -what do I know?
That if you ask 2 instructors, you get 4 different answers?
It's interesting, though, getting two different perspectives -- and two entirely different sets of priorities. I am. As much as I'd love to learn in a tailwheel airplane, I have yet to see anywhere around here using them for primary training.
I think a Maule would make a dandy second plane, though, when SWMBO decides the cockpit of a Warrior or whatever is too small.Using the slip to track the centerline with the nose seems harder... which is why I want to master it. And, while I do worry a little about the amount of throttle needed and about suddenly ending up with too much bank too close to the ground, I don't worry about landing at an angle to the runway and either the airplane departing the pavement or the main gear departing the airplane.
And changing wind, of course. 