FlyDubai - cockpit altercation

[Half Fast]

Maybe we need an additional emergency squawk code. 7800 = knife fight in cockpit.

Israel-Dubai flight: Pilots taken to hospital after reported cockpit stabbing on Israel-bound flight

The plane, which appeared damaged after landing, dropped 17,000ft in less than two minutes. One passenger says two other pilots came from the back of the aircraft to land it.

www.bbc.com

 

[Warlock]

This is disturbing…

 

[Let'sgoflying!]

see? see?
and the FAA wants us all to have 2 pilot crews lol

 

[AV8R_87]

7800 = knife fight in cockpit.

Make it 8888.

I do wonder if the initial speculations of an intended 9/11-style attack directed at Tel Aviv have any merit.

 

[flyingron]

The life of everyone on board depends upon just one thing: finding someone back there who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner or get stabbed by the first officer.

 

[Skymac]

Impressive the aircraft didn’t come apart besides the visible rudder damage. Wonder what their Mach got up to.

 

[sourdough44]

Early indications seem to point that the f/o wanted to crash the plane. That’s not good.

 

[Kenny Phillips]

Make it 8888.

I do wonder if the initial speculations of an intended 9/11-style attack directed at Tel Aviv have any merit.

Well, if so, gonna guess the perp doesn't care that Israel just reinstated the death penalty.

 

[Warlock]

Looks like a flight 93 success story…god bless Todd Beamer and fellow passengers for setting the example…all American hero’s.

 

[nauga]

This is what you get when you run non-deterministic wetware in a flight-critical environment.

Nauga,
half-joking

 

[ionel]

The life of everyone on board depends upon just one thing: finding someone back there who can not only fly this plane, but who didn't have fish for dinner or get stabbed by the first officer.

Surely all modern jets have one of these now?

 

[geezer]

Captain reported to be Emirati, and victim of knife attack.
First officer, Omani, and had knife.
Dead heading pilots:
One Russian.
One Ukrainian.
There were also some Israeli civilians who feared cuts much less than a crash.

Yes, Todd Beamer set a standard for taking action regardless of your personal outcome.

 

[Lindberg]

see? see?
and the FAA wants us all to have 2 pilot crews lol

and having two pilots saved a lot of lives in this case

There were also some Israeli civilians who feared cuts much less than a crash.

There are no Israeli civilians of military age.
(Ok, not none, but not a lot.)

 

[danhagan]

Maybe we need an additional emergency squawk code. 7800 = knife fight in cockpit.

Probably 7400 at engine start and prior to push = My co-pilot seems unhinged

I can't believe this guy got all the way to ATP level without someone noticing something "a little off"

 

[FlightmechH3]

Maybe all pilots and crews need full body cavity searches for each flight now.

 

[nauga]

1234 is 'knife fight in a phone booth cockpit', 0234 (or 1034, 1204, etc) is knife fight with injuries.

Nauga,
on fingers

 

[francisco collazos]

You would think the airlines would add some back door Autoland software they can activate remotely.

Personally I like "8008"

 

[wilkersk]

At least there were no "Furries" in that cockpit.

 

[ateamer]

This is what you get when you run non-deterministic wetware in a flight-critical environment.

Nauga,
half-joking

 

[ionel]

1234 is 'knife fight in a phone booth cockpit', 0234 (or 1034, 1204, etc) is knife fight with injuries.

Nauga,
on fingers

What for a an atomic wedgie?

 

[wilkersk]

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Coder's slang for "the nut behind the stick".

 

[nauga]

What for a an atomic wedgie?

Flight manual says subtract 1 or 2 from prior squawk, as appropriate.

Nauga,
double-aught

 

[bonefishpete]

Fighting over PIC time got serious.

 

[Half Fast]

I can't believe this guy got all the way to ATP level without someone noticing something "a little more off than usual for a pilot.”

FIFY.

 

[JOhnH]

see? see?
and the FAA wants us all to have 2 pilot crews lol

Read on another forum where someone said we should have an AI as the second pilot.

AI CoPilot: "I can't let you do that Abdul".

 

[geezer]

The Omani may have been a normal pilot until something in the recent events flipped his awareness of political and military issues.

He may even have made a decision during this flight

 

[Cesarmx]

Hope the FAA does not come up with a new idea for mental test/evaluation requirements for class II and I Medical renewals!…..$$$$$$$

 

[Fearless Tower]

Looks like a flight 93 success story…god bless Todd Beamer and fellow passengers for setting the example…all American hero’s.

May be more like FEDEX 705...

 

[aterry1067]

Surely all modern jets have one of these now?

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Yes, most modern jets have at least one female flight attendant, but not all. And don’t call me Shirley.

 

[Bill]

May be more like FEDEX 705...

What a horrowing ordeal that one was, absolutely brutal.

 

[Larry in TN]

You would think the airlines would add some back door Autoland software they can activate remotely.

Software can't do it. Still need someone on the flight deck to get the airplane onto the ILS at the right altitude, airspeed, configuration, and to setup the autoland. Then, at least with a 737, it isn't going to stay on the runway without help.

 

[Bacho]

How does the pax get into the cockpit to fight knife wielding FO?

 

[mryan75]

How does the pax get into the cockpit to fight knife wielding FO?

He told Ben N. that the captain got the door open before collapsing. Said they had a tough time pushing it open because the captain was inside the door on the floor. I read one of the deadheading pilots was British.

So much for the idea of impenetrable doors. Wonder what the next solution will be. Thank God he got it open.

 

[ArrowFlyer86]

This whole event seems... odd.

 

[nauga]

Software can't do it. Still need someone on the flight deck to get the airplane onto the ILS at the right altitude, airspeed, configuration, and to setup the autoland. Then, at least with a 737, it isn't going to stay on the runway without help.

Maybe as currently implemented in commercial airplanes, but unmanned airplanes definitely can do a more difficult landing task than a field ILS.

Note that I'm saying that they CAN, not that they SHOULD...yet.

Nauga,
and Ian Malcolm

 

[wanttaja]

You would think the airlines would add some back door Autoland software they can activate remotely.

"The more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it 'tis to stop up the drains."

Hacking a remote control routine is probably easier than subverting a pilot. Plus, such a routine will probably be designed to NOT allow onboard people to override it....

Ron Wanttaja

 

[Lindberg]

This whole event seems... odd.

Yes, thank heavens this isn't a common situation!

 

[Larry in TN]

He told Ben N. that the captain got the door open before collapsing. Said they had a tough time pushing it open because the captain was inside the door on the floor.

FlyDubai operates the 737. The cockpit door on 737s opens out, not in.

Maybe as currently implemented in commercial airplanes

My comment was in the context of the quote to which I was replying.

 

[Datadriver]

737-Max descended 17,000 feet in one minute. Flight 93 simulation PASSED

 

[GeorgeC]

This is what you get when you run non-deterministic wetware in a flight-critical environment.

Nauga,
half-joking

They must have forgotten the dog.

GeorgeC,
Kung Furry