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OK. Note you didn't include the AA5 in your list. It is a superior plane to the others, in most circumstance.
Purely out of unfamiliarity....
OK. Note you didn't include the AA5 in your list. It is a superior plane to the others, in most circumstance.
Purely out of unfamiliarity....
Purely out of unfamiliarity....
Grummans are great aircraft, the sliding canopy makes boarding quite easy.
You should consider buying a plane for your 80-90% of the time missions and find a rental for that occasional mission.
I have a car that I use daily, maybe once or twice a year I need a full size pickup, thus I have a car and just rent a pickup once or twice a year, saves money, suits my mission better, same deal with aircraft.
Uhhh... Don't you have Cessna 185 on amphib floats?
I knew that was going to come up lol
Just because I don't follow my own advise doesn't mean it's not good
7,000 TT and 1900SMOH if it's free you cant afford it, run away.I saw that one too, and was going to ask my CFI about it. I looked up the registration number and it says it expired a couple months ago. Bad sign?
Where are you out of?
Here is another one that will fill your needs until you move up.
http://missoula.craigslist.org/for/5070204472.html
Loads of aircraft for sale these days. the radios in this one needs update but they will work for your training.
I flew a 152 for about 30 hours of my nearly 250 hours. They are cheap for a reason-- they can't do much. I won't fly in them given a choice and I won't buy one that's for sure. I'd rather save the 20,000 for the 152 and put it into the next step type plane( 172, PA28, Grumman Tiger AA5, Warrior, Sundowner).
If I had a bit more money I'd be all over the Grumman Tiger AA5. Crushing at 125+ knots on 8 gallons an hour sounds like a dream for this 172 renter!
Uhhh... Don't you have Cessna 185 on amphib floats?
I might only be able to do it a few days per year, but if I could fly out to the gulfstream, spot a weed line from the air, land and fill a cooler with mahi, then take off for home...
On a calm day you could do it nicely.
I'm going Sunday, forecast 2' seas with a period of 13 seconds
Could external load a canoe with a trolling motor.
I would more think to put the trolling motor on the plane.
Why stop there? Bonanza will cruise you at 165 and is the easiest SE plane out there to fly and land.
Yeah I'd love a bonanza too but I'm more talking about planes that can realistically be had for around 30,000. I'd be hard pressed to find a Bo for that.
Yeah I'd love a bonanza too but I'm more talking about planes that can realistically be had for around 30,000. I'd be hard pressed to find a Bo for that.
You're hard pressed to find anything good past 152 or Tomahawk for that, maybe a PA-22.
There are planes out there.
http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail...e+Piston/1973/Piper/Cherokee+140/2078685.html
Sure, it has no real capability either. Plus you have no idea what condition it's in. I've looked at a couple dozen of these low cost wonders over the last couple of years for people, and rarely do they qualify as "Good".
Do you remember the OP? He is looking for a trainer. This airplane fits that mission through primary and instrument. Of course you don't know the true condition until it is inspected, but it is very likely "good" if not better than good. It has plenty of capability! I know you won't say you're wrong, but perhaps you misunderstood?
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I'd just buy the family plane first assuming you are going to 1) stick with flying and 2) get said family plane anyway.
Go ahead and spend 60k and get an Archer/Tiger or a Bonanza if that's what you'll need. You can train in those planes without much fuss. You'll have a few more hours learning in a complex but those are hours you'll have to get sooner or later anyway.
I'd just buy the family plane first assuming you are going to 1) stick with flying and 2) get said family plane anyway.
Go ahead and spend 60k and get an Archer/Tiger or a Bonanza if that's what you'll need. You can train in those planes without much fuss. You'll have a few more hours learning in a complex but those are hours you'll have to get sooner or later anyway.
This is in his budget, much better deal than some Cherokee 140 for him.
http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail...+Piston/1963/Cessna/182F+Skylane/2076274.html
add another 10K for radios, for the nave portion of the practical.
But after the PPL is obtained that is a screaming deal.
I'd just move the 97 and transponder down and make room for a hand held GPS docking station.
But and that's a BIG BUT, he wants a real IFR aircraft to cross the Cascades in the winter.
To me, that is an aircraft way out of his budget. (fully deiced & pressurized)
Well, I talked to the guy that runs the flying club my CFI referred me to. They have an IFR equipped 172M and a Champ.
After a reasonable buy-in amount (and monthly dues), they're fine with doing training in the 172M, and they are charging between $50 and $55/hr wet.
Seems like a good place to start to me.
For very basic IFR, a 150/152/172/PA-28 can be bought for that. If you can up the budget to $40k you can add some older 182s, Bonanzas, and Mooneys, but they will likely have antique panels in them, not just old.
Do you start your training in the Champ then? How much is it?
What I ran into is my required plane is a 182 or a 206. The problem is low hours look at insurance costs. Low time = way to high of insurance costs. So we are buying a 172 as our first plane. About $50k and about $1k insurance makes it a great trainer until instrument rating and reach that magical 250 hours. Then we can afford the insurance for a 206 or a 182. Awareness I was getting $6-7k quotes for insurance on the 206 and due to 6 seats and no instrument rating.
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