Good point...when I took my sport, I think there was only 1 around here that was willing or crazy enough to do those.Y'all have enough DPEs in your area to be picky? When I went for my PPL, my CFI set me up. If I recall, we only had 2 in the area at the time. Now there's 4 within a reasonable distance according to the database. But one of them is Michael Goulian.
In the past it was easier to see that the DPE had failed someone because they were 400’ down the runway when the standard was 200’. Now, sometimes it seems it’s a lot easier to meet a standard and still fail because of a a judgment call - and trust me, I’m all for students being taught good judgment, but some of the stories I’ve heard do leave me scratching my head a bit as to how a particular checkride gotcha failure could have avoided without gouge, and I don’t think that’s particularly a good thing.
what verbiage specifically changed to make 200 feet subjective rather than objective?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? That was not what I was saying at all.
You said that changes were made from the PTS to the ACS that make it more subjective. I’m asking for specific examples of that verbiage.
Yeah, that’s what I thought, and it’s probably exactly how people bust on “judgment.” Not because of some subjective idea of whose judgment is better than whose, but because the applicant tried to ******** the examiner by doing or not doing something based on judgement, and when the examiner probed further to find out what specific risks they were mitigating, the applicant didn’t have a clue.
Yea, but you are older than dirt. Over how many decades?
I've got way bigger fish to fry for the next several days than the response that this deserves. I hope I remember to circle back, because that crickets comment is irritating, nice job pushing a button.
Obviously you didn’t understand my post(s). Are you being deliberately obtuse?
I guess I’m too dense and I don’t want to argue just for the sake of it. I suspect we’d see eye to eye if I did understand. I’m just going to drop it.
Seems like that’s what you’ve been doing so far. You certainly haven’t provided any evidence for your argument.
Maybe the CFIs claiming they don’t use a syllabus because they are using the ACS aren’t using the ACS either.
A better question is, "How many people would this service benefit?"
Based on human psychology, I think there's only one answer to that.
Given that the “actual checkride experiences” that you list are largely based on the applicant and/or the applicant has little to no objective knowledge of the examiner in these areas, I would say no.
There are very very few 141's with self test authority.
Actually I believe it’s only a few colleges have them.
Aviator College? Yep - just looked it up. Hooray! Their CFIs and poor maintenance killed two people and maimed two others in less than a year. They’ve been widely known for dangerous flying for years.
Yup…not a great system, IMO.
We’re actually in the process of building something along these lines right now.
How did it pay off for you? Had you selected other DPEs do you believe you would have failed the practical test?
I think that this is an interesting perspective..... and as it should be.
one of the biggest errors I see is people who think peaking on the checkride is appropriate.
Rather difficult to peak during the test.
True…I don’t understand why it’s so important for pilots to intentionally regress and not meet any standard except on checkride day.
I changed my post because I thought I was misinterpreting your statement. Looks like I was, but regression is a simple process that does require intent.
Are you referring to the "you're the most proficient you'll ever be on the checkride" mythology?
“I can forget this crap as soon as the checkride’s over.”
Like CFI candidates who don’t possess the basic knowledge required for the private certificate. I just ask how they are going to teach you don’t know?