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Asked a 28-yo employee the significance of this date.
Did ok but not quite as complete an answer as hoped for.
Did ok but not quite as complete an answer as hoped for.
Asked a 28-yo employee the significance of this date.
Did ok but not quite as complete an answer as hoped for.
For reference, there are kids graduating high school today with no recollection of 9/11 beyond what they read in the history books or see in documentaries.
Time marches on, and people who have even a tenuous connection with a given historical event get fewer and fewer. Thus memories of events tend to fade. It's the way life works.
Yep. One day I'll be the old codger who remembers that. Who am I kidding, I'm already that old codger.
''December 7th, 1941 -- a date which will live in infamy'' will one day be only known to historians and a few die hard folks.
I mean who remembers March 6, 1836 outside of Texas.??
Ask a 60-year-old the significance of August 24th, 1814.
There is a very major difference between not knowing/remembering and never being taught in the first place... I'm afraid that is where we are today... Our history, especially if it doesn't conform to the PC crowd, has no place in the classroom anymore.
Part of the problem, I think, is that students today are getting history through too many filters. Rather than returning to primary sources, they are hearing through teachers, commentators and editors that theirs is the only rational, moral, ethical generation in history; that all who came before were racist, sexist, superstitious morons and villains, whose words are not worthy of the time to consider them.Which history should be prioritized, that's up for debate.
For her it was a lot more US-focused history, where for me it was a lot more world history, and getting even to WW2 and later was at the very end.
Part of the problem, I think, is that students today are getting history through too many filters. Rather than returning to primary sources, they are hearing through teachers, commentators and editors that theirs is the only rational, moral, ethical generation in history; that all who came before were racist, sexist, superstitious morons and villains, whose words are not worthy of the time to consider them.
As the Soviet-era Russian joke said, "The future is certain. It's the past that keeps changing."
My history books were cave paintingsOurs was world history, and ended around WW2, mainly because the books were just that old!
Our neighbor Hilda has a different memory of WWII, she is old country German, She once told me that every young man in her high school was killed, Her husband was 14 when the brown shirts came and took him away. he once told me he had a choice, be killed or go with them. he said he and his group were hiding in a ditch, when the American troops saved him.
Very interesting to listen to their stories.
What do you consider a primary source? I ask only because to me, it would be the letters written by people, the photographs taken (if any), and documents by the people involved. Even so, those may lend a different view from what actually happened- the "Rashomon effect".Part of the problem, I think, is that students today are getting history through too many filters. Rather than returning to primary sources, they are hearing through teachers, commentators and editors that theirs is the only rational, moral, ethical generation in history; that all who came before were racist, sexist, superstitious morons and villains, whose words are not worthy of the time to consider them.
As the Soviet-era Russian joke said, "The future is certain. It's the past that keeps changing."
Exactly. First-hand witnesses contradict each other in court, too. But we still consider what they have to say and make up our minds, rather than throwing them all out and depending solely on an elitist "expert", bringing his own layer of bias and prejudice, to tell us what the witnesses' thoughts, perceptions and agendas really were.What do you consider a primary source? I ask only because to me, it would be the letters written by people, the photographs taken (if any), and documents by the people involved.
Ask a 60-year-old the significance of August 24th, 1814.
Again, it depends on ones' frame of reference...a date 200+ years ago vs. less than 80 years back, with some participants still living. In the year 2140, Pearl Harbor may be looked on as a date of no great significance. WWII had been under way for ten years at that point, according to some historians.Not really a date of the same significance.
How would you choose, for something as vast as, say, the civil war? Reconstruction? Were the events of January 8, 1815 an attempt at uti possidetis by the United Kingdom? (for @wanttaja )Exactly. First-hand witnesses contradict each other in court, too. But we still consider what they have to say and make up our minds, rather than throwing them all out and depending solely on an elitist "expert", bringing his own layer of bias and prejudice, to tell us what the witnesses' thoughts, perceptions and agendas really were.
...Were the events of January 8, 1815 an attempt at uti possidetis by the United Kingdom? (for @wanttaja )
Ask a 60-year-old the significance of August 24th, 1814.