Cop does speeding college student a favor by tying necktie

Tie tying is becoming a lost skill.

I remember my dad wearing his uniform of the day in the 60s, black suit, white shirt, skinny black tie with black rim glasses. It was the thing to wear for the modern college professor back then....:lol:
 
I once tied a tie for a new employee just starting on his first day....it was at a roadside gas-n-go place and all I had done was stopped by gas and a soft drink...it was a little weird
 
I'm not sure I still own any neckties. But I still remember how to tie one. I think.

Rich
 
I'm embarrassed to admit it but on the rare occasion I need to wear a tie (usually a wedding or funeral) I have to watch YouTube videos to relearn how to do it and it usually takes at least 5 attempts before it looks right.
 
I still chuckle when I see employees wearing neckties at jobs (like grocery clerks) that don't really necessitate the formality. I don't think I would consider working at a company that dictated ties to be worn, especially for employees who aren't interacting with external customers.
 
SoonerAviator said:
I still chuckle when I see employees wearing neckties at jobs (like grocery clerks) that don't really necessitate the formality. I don't think I would consider working at a company that dictated ties to be worn, especially for employees who aren't interacting with external customers.
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During my internship at the local major airport I was told I only had to wear a tie during commission meeting days. They were serious about it as HR had extra ties for people who forgot.
 
I tell people I'm the VP of my company because Presidents have to wear ties every day and I'm not in to that.

I wear suits (sans tie) every day. I've had co-workers ask me not to because someone might expect them to. I tell them to dress to their standards and I'll do the same.

Generally speaking, 30 years ago when people dressed more professionally they also ACTED more professionally. Don't get me started on "jeans day" or "sport jersey day" or all that other ********. If dressing professionally is too much to ask of you, QUIT!

And then there's the untucked crowd. Give me a break fatty. Leaving your shirttails out makes it MORE obvious that you've never passed a doughnut tray without having a few. ick!

[Ravioli departs the soapbox]
 
Ravioli said:
I tell people I'm the VP of my company because Presidents have to wear ties every day and I'm not in to that.

I wear suits (sans tie) every day. I've had co-workers ask me not to because someone might expect them to. I tell them to dress to their standards and I'll do the same.

Generally speaking, 30 years ago when people dressed more professionally they also ACTED more professionally. Don't get me started on "jeans day" or "sport jersey day" or all that other ********. If dressing professionally is too much to ask of you, QUIT!

And then there's the untucked crowd. Give me a break fatty. Leaving your shirttails out makes it MORE obvious that you've never passed a doughnut tray without having a few. ick!

[Ravioli departs the soapbox]
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If the company cares THAT much about how I dress. It's not somewhere I want to work. I go to work in jeans and a collared shirt and so does the VP at this fortune 500 company. I certainly don't think what you wear has ANY impact on professionalism. Welcome to the 21st century.
 
Ravioli said:
I tell people I'm the VP of my company because Presidents have to wear ties every day and I'm not in to that.

I wear suits (sans tie) every day. I've had co-workers ask me not to because someone might expect them to. I tell them to dress to their standards and I'll do the same.

Generally speaking, 30 years ago when people dressed more professionally they also ACTED more professionally. Don't get me started on "jeans day" or "sport jersey day" or all that other ********. If dressing professionally is too much to ask of you, QUIT!

And then there's the untucked crowd. Give me a break fatty. Leaving your shirttails out makes it MORE obvious that you've never passed a doughnut tray without having a few. ick!

[Ravioli departs the soapbox]
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At my current job I'm a split CFI/admin position. I actually like dressing professionally, but after two ruined dress pants I gave up. I'll only wear business on my admin days. The rest of the time I'll wear a polo and work khakis.

This week I'm just in a casual shirt and jeans, as I'm the only one on campus.
 
Ravioli said:
I tell people I'm the VP of my company because Presidents have to wear ties every day and I'm not in to that.

I wear suits (sans tie) every day. I've had co-workers ask me not to because someone might expect them to. I tell them to dress to their standards and I'll do the same.

Generally speaking, 30 years ago when people dressed more professionally they also ACTED more professionally. Don't get me started on "jeans day" or "sport jersey day" or all that other ********. If dressing professionally is too much to ask of you, QUIT!

And then there's the untucked crowd. Give me a break fatty. Leaving your shirttails out makes it MORE obvious that you've never passed a doughnut tray without having a few. ick!

[Ravioli departs the soapbox]
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Some shirts (yes, even button-ups) aren't meant to be tucked in. Fashion has changed, and what constitutes "business casual" has changed over time as well. Putting on a tie doesn't make anyone behave in a professional manner, their upbringing generally has control of that. I'm all for wearing a suit jacket and/or a tie if the occasion calls for it, but me sitting in a manufacturing plant and walking among the machinists doesn't fit well with silk. Shop employees are much more amicable to speaking with me candidly if I don't look like I just walked out of the Oval Office. :)
 
Ravioli said:
I tell people I'm the VP of my company because Presidents have to wear ties every day and I'm not in to that.

I wear suits (sans tie) every day. I've had co-workers ask me not to because someone might expect them to. I tell them to dress to their standards and I'll do the same.

Generally speaking, 30 years ago when people dressed more professionally they also ACTED more professionally. Don't get me started on "jeans day" or "sport jersey day" or all that other ********. If dressing professionally is too much to ask of you, QUIT!

And then there's the untucked crowd. Give me a break fatty. Leaving your shirttails out makes it MORE obvious that you've never passed a doughnut tray without having a few. ick!

[Ravioli departs the soapbox]
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Exactly. But dress for work. I don't expect an oil well roustabout to wear a tie.

Very shortly after 9/11, I was traveling commercial airlines and wore a tie. Going through security other passengers started asking me questions about what they could carry and what isn't allowed on the plane. I had to tell them I was just a passenger.

It just cracks me up in the air ambulance that most companies dress their pilots to look like junior assistant plumbers...:rofl: Those one piece adult onesies don't fit and look awful.

(not picking on plumbers, but the point is a professional pilot should resemble one)

Wear what is comfortable and presentable at work. Show up looking like a crack prostitute or in your childs jammies and I'll send you home to change. It has happened.
 
At my flight school we wore a company polo and pants. Not sure how I'd feel about wearing a tie and epaulets hopping into a 172. At my current job, my manual dictates how I should look and I follow it.
 
Zeldman said:
Exactly. But dress for work. I don't expect an oil well roustabout to wear a tie.

Very shortly after 9/11, I was traveling commercial airlines and wore a tie. Going through security other passengers started asking me questions about what they could carry and what isn't allowed on the plane. I had to tell them I was just a passenger.

It just cracks me up in the air ambulance that most companies dress their pilots to look like junior assistant plumbers...:rofl: Those one piece adult onesies don't fit and look awful.

(not picking on plumbers, but the point is a professional pilot should resemble one)

Wear what is comfortable and presentable at work. Show up looking like a crack prostitute or in your childs jammies and I'll send you home to change. It has happened.
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Those onesies have one very important function and that is preventing the revelation of plumber's crack. That is at least as important as fit.
 
Mtns2Skies said:
If the company cares THAT much about how I dress. It's not somewhere I want to work. I go to work in jeans and a collared shirt and so does the VP at this fortune 500 company. I certainly don't think what you wear has ANY impact on professionalism. Welcome to the 21st century.
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Sadly, there is rather overwhelming evidence that it does. I'm not a suit and tie guy either, but the reality (which many try to deny these days) is that appearance matters. It's always mattered, and it will always matter. The guy in a suit and tie will command more attention and his words, assuming they are likewise professional, will be granted more credibility regardless of the age range of the audience members. Professional dress is a reflection of professional discipline, and the inverse is also true.

With respect to neck ties, I'm not sure how they're a burden if the shirt is sized correctly. Ties shouldn't be choke collars.


JKG
 
JGoodish said:
Sadly, there is rather overwhelming evidence that it does. I'm not a suit and tie guy either, but the reality (which many try to deny these days) is that appearance matters. It's always mattered, and it will always matter. The guy in a suit and tie will command more attention and his words, assuming they are likewise professional, will be granted more credibility regardless of the age range of the audience members. Professional dress is a reflection of professional discipline, and the inverse is also true.

With respect to neck ties, I'm not sure how they're a burden if the shirt is sized correctly. Ties shouldn't be choke collars.


JKG
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Agree to disagree. I think if you are well over-dressed for the environment that could come off just as bad if not worse than being underdressed. That being said I work in engineering and am regularly in a machine shop and lab setting.
 
I used to teach professional computer networking/security courses. I wore a suit and tie. One of the students asked me at the break if I wore a suit every day. I asked him how much he paid to come to the class and pointed out that's what you had to pay to see me in a suit.
 
Art VanDelay said:
The four-in-hand, Windsor that's one thing. How many here can tie there own bow-tie ?
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I experimented a couple years ago and found that the half windsor looks best on my build so thats what I wear and know, however I could tie a full windsor pretty quickly if I had to. I do own several bowties as well and can tie them. Bowties are pretty easy once you get the hang of it.

I find that when I wear a suit and tie I do command more attention and become more confident, as a younger guy this has been very beneficial to me. However, being comfortable in a suit and tie and having one that fits you are requirements to get that effect. I went to a job interview and was talking to another candidate who had bought his suit the day before and didn't know about a gig line, he probably didnt get that confidence boost or attention. Another time I was at a convention in a shirt and slacks and a buddy of mine was in jeans, sneakers, and an untucked polo. One of us landed a job, the other got passed over and rarely had anyone come talk to him. The point being that appearance does matter.

I've also never had a problem with being over-dressed. If it happens you make a quick joke about how you thought you were meeting someone important and ended up with this lot, or more commonly a self deprecating joke to make everyone comfortable and then you lose the tie and roll your sleeves up. Solved.
 
Art VanDelay said:
The four-in-hand, Windsor that's one thing. How many here can tie there own bow-tie ?
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Why would you want to wear a bow tie? Passive-aggressive and/or dorky, unless you're Bond. James Bond.
 
JGoodish said:
Sadly, there is rather overwhelming evidence that it does. I'm not a suit and tie guy either, but the reality (which many try to deny these days) is that appearance matters. It's always mattered, and it will always matter. The guy in a suit and tie will command more attention and his words, assuming they are likewise professional, will be granted more credibility regardless of the age range of the audience members. Professional dress is a reflection of professional discipline, and the inverse is also true.

With respect to neck ties, I'm not sure how they're a burden if the shirt is sized correctly. Ties shouldn't be choke collars.


JKG
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Absolutely.
 
paflyer said:
Why would you want to wear a bow tie? Passive-aggressive and/or dorky, unless you're Bond. James Bond.
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Of course reality isn't that neat and simple. I'd wear a bow tie in a heartbeat if I could pull it off, but there's a time and a place. And dorky ain't all bad either!

I went to school where you wore a tie M-F. It's like a leash on a dog...after a few days you get used to it. As I've aged I miss wearing one (my employer is a logo-wear & khakis shop). So last night at dinner with the Board, I was wearing a suite, tie, polished shoes and enjoyed it. I was most definitely not under-dressed, but was surprised how many of my colleagues' spouses (men) were.

Yep, I'm old. I miss the shirt & tie days in high school circa 1980. At the very least I am more than comfortable tying & wearing a necktie. It's not for everyone, but it is for some.
 
iflyvfr said:
Of course reality isn't that neat and simple. I'd wear a bow tie in a heartbeat if I could pull it off, but there's a time and a place. And dorky ain't all bad either!

I went to school where you wore a tie M-F. It's like a leash on a dog...after a few days you get used to it. As I've aged I miss wearing one (my employer is a logo-wear & khakis shop). So last night at dinner with the Board, I was wearing a suite, tie, polished shoes and enjoyed it. I was most definitely not under-dressed, but was surprised how many of my colleagues' spouses (men) were.

Yep, I'm old. I miss the shirt & tie days in high school circa 1980. At the very least I am more than comfortable tying & wearing a necktie. It's not for everyone, but it is for some.
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Present company excepted!

If you travel to Europe or Asia it's a cinch to identify the American tourists. They generally dress like slobs.
 
I have never understood why anyone actually believes that a tie makes you look more professional. Seems like a silly concept to me. How does tying something around your neck make you look intelligent or professional?

Besides when I was growing up the people that I was exposed to that wore ties were politicians, bankers, lawyers, salesmen, preachers and other assorted crooks. I do not want to be associated with those folks.
 
SkyDog58 said:
I have never understood why anyone actually believes that a tie makes you look more professional. Seems like a silly concept to me. How does tying something around your neck make you look intelligent or professional?

Besides when I was growing up the people that I was exposed to that wore ties were politicians, bankers, lawyers, salesmen, preachers and other assorted crooks. I do not want to be associated with those folks.
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SkyDog58 said:
I have never understood why anyone actually believes that a tie makes you look more professional. Seems like a silly concept to me. How does tying something around your neck make you look intelligent or professional?

Besides when I was growing up the people that I was exposed to that wore ties were politicians, bankers, lawyers, salesmen, preachers and other assorted crooks. I do not want to be associated with those folks.
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Yep, seems like not thinking so is just as silly. I work for a financial institution, so I will duly make note of your preference should we meet. I'd like to think our commonality as airplane owners and pilots is more important than whether you or I wear a tie.

But I think it's a matter of respect and upholding of tradition. Yes work casual is nice & comfy, but what's wrong with the a jacket & tie if that's your thing or the situation warrants it?
 
Zeldman said:
It just cracks me up in the air ambulance that most companies dress their pilots to look like junior assistant plumbers...:rofl: Those one piece adult onesies don't fit and look awful.
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When I did air ambulance it was a regular pilot's uniform sans tie, since the man-ties might get caught in the lifeport or slide. Then they went to polos, which was better. Now they wear onesies, but I haven't been involved in that department since they switched to them. I don't think I would like wearing a onesie.

I wish I could go back to jeans and a sweatshirt like in the mapping days, but those days are gone.
 
Half-Windsor works when you're in high school. When it's time for big-boy stuff, use the full Windsor.

A bowtie? Yeah, I'm not in a frat nor do I even look good in one... for those formal events.
 
I use the full Windsor, unless the tie is too short for it. Wouldn't wear a bow tie, just not my style.


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I love my ties and cuff links, but it's also about wearing them in the right setting.

If it's 110f outside and you're walking around outside with a tie on, you look like a retarded ham in a pressure cooker, whatever "professional" look you were going for got killed by those sweat stains and the beads of sweat pouring down your face. Sometimes no tie, or cuff links in the car and a few rolls on the sleeves will look better and more thought out.

Also when you put someone who's not exactly upper brow in a suit, just looks like a monkey in a suit, almost like the suit is wearing them, not the other way around.

Now a nice suit, worn by someone who knows how to wear a suit, in the right setting, timeless.
 
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